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		<title>By: wjk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/02/12/score-one-for-the-hub/#comment-69935</link>
		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 05:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that's a great comment, Sperwer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s a great comment, Sperwer.</p>
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		<title>By: Sperwer</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/02/12/score-one-for-the-hub/#comment-69913</link>
		<dc:creator>Sperwer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DHL has been in Asia a lot longer than either FedEx or UPS, largely because its roots were in the Flying Tigers and its once owner found Asia a lot more conducive to both his business ambitions and his chicken-hawking because of the absence of effective competition and law-enforcement, respectively.

Korea's distinct lack of progress in making itself the hub of anything has less to do with topography (except in the case of rail and road transport) than other factors.  One thing they got right in the hype was its position relative to the demographic center of East Asia.  UPS' US hub of hubs is located in St. Louis, of all places, because it is the demographic center of the States.  But in East Asia, UPS, e.g., operates its hubs from Taipei, Hong Kong and Singapore - each targeting a slightly different service area, not only for obvious political reasons, but because of the relative freedom each affords it to operate on its own terms rather than those dictated by the local govt, and/or  the local &lt;strike&gt;leeches&lt;/strike&gt; "partners" that govts in places like Korea and Japan effectively foist on foreign entrants to the domestic market - even just the domestic location as a platform for int'l, as opposed to local, commerce.  (UPS has a lot of institutional experience with these sorts of issues from its long history of having had to obtain both interstate and intrastate operating rights back in the days when the US trucking business was much more highly regulated than it is now).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DHL has been in Asia a lot longer than either FedEx or UPS, largely because its roots were in the Flying Tigers and its once owner found Asia a lot more conducive to both his business ambitions and his chicken-hawking because of the absence of effective competition and law-enforcement, respectively.</p>
<p>Korea&#8217;s distinct lack of progress in making itself the hub of anything has less to do with topography (except in the case of rail and road transport) than other factors.  One thing they got right in the hype was its position relative to the demographic center of East Asia.  UPS&#8217; US hub of hubs is located in St. Louis, of all places, because it is the demographic center of the States.  But in East Asia, UPS, e.g., operates its hubs from Taipei, Hong Kong and Singapore - each targeting a slightly different service area, not only for obvious political reasons, but because of the relative freedom each affords it to operate on its own terms rather than those dictated by the local govt, and/or  the local <strike>leeches</strike> &#8220;partners&#8221; that govts in places like Korea and Japan effectively foist on foreign entrants to the domestic market - even just the domestic location as a platform for int&#8217;l, as opposed to local, commerce.  (UPS has a lot of institutional experience with these sorts of issues from its long history of having had to obtain both interstate and intrastate operating rights back in the days when the US trucking business was much more highly regulated than it is now).</p>
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		<title>By: The Marmot&#8217;s Hole &#187; One had giveth&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/02/12/score-one-for-the-hub/#comment-69910</link>
		<dc:creator>The Marmot&#8217;s Hole &#187; One had giveth&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 03:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] couple days ago I got some interesting reaction to my chalking a point for the &#8220;the Hub&#8221; plan. Alas there were actualy two parts to the post. If any of you are looking for clear examples of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] couple days ago I got some interesting reaction to my chalking a point for the &#8220;the Hub&#8221; plan. Alas there were actualy two parts to the post. If any of you are looking for clear examples of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dram_man</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/02/12/score-one-for-the-hub/#comment-69853</link>
		<dc:creator>Dram_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 13:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wedge&#62; Thanks, for the correction. As I recall regardless of crashes FedEx got burned due to corruption and back turning on the part of the transition of Ramos to Estrada.

Linkd&#62; Lets be fair, St. Louis was the "fortress" hub of TWA for a long time. Then again look what happened to TWA. On the other hand KC is/was a HUGE rail hub largely based on its geography.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wedge&gt; Thanks, for the correction. As I recall regardless of crashes FedEx got burned due to corruption and back turning on the part of the transition of Ramos to Estrada.</p>
<p>Linkd&gt; Lets be fair, St. Louis was the &#8220;fortress&#8221; hub of TWA for a long time. Then again look what happened to TWA. On the other hand KC is/was a HUGE rail hub largely based on its geography.</p>
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		<title>By: railwaycharm</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/02/12/score-one-for-the-hub/#comment-69846</link>
		<dc:creator>railwaycharm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hub a huba?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hub a huba?</p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/02/12/score-one-for-the-hub/#comment-69842</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's the hub of hubs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the hub of hubs.</p>
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		<title>By: Wedge</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/02/12/score-one-for-the-hub/#comment-69837</link>
		<dc:creator>Wedge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snow: "Could Korea actually become a hub of anything?"

Someone, not me, once mentioned it was already the hub of global prostitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snow: &#8220;Could Korea actually become a hub of anything?&#8221;</p>
<p>Someone, not me, once mentioned it was already the hub of global prostitution.</p>
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		<title>By: Wedge</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/02/12/score-one-for-the-hub/#comment-69836</link>
		<dc:creator>Wedge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dram: FedEx took over Subic and lost an MD-11 hull off the end of the short runway into the drink for their troubles. Plus, Subic never got off the ground. Brown is putting a hub in at Clark, which makes a lot more sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dram: FedEx took over Subic and lost an MD-11 hull off the end of the short runway into the drink for their troubles. Plus, Subic never got off the ground. Brown is putting a hub in at Clark, which makes a lot more sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Linkd</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/02/12/score-one-for-the-hub/#comment-69827</link>
		<dc:creator>Linkd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 08:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and controlling the media while keeping all political opponents either in jail or in court probably helped in some way, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and controlling the media while keeping all political opponents either in jail or in court probably helped in some way, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Linkd</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/02/12/score-one-for-the-hub/#comment-69826</link>
		<dc:creator>Linkd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 08:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What makes Kazakhstan so great? 15 million people, and a population dropping fast because anyone with the brains or means to escape is doing so? It takes more than geography to be a hub. Winnipeg is not the hub of Canada, Kansas city not the hub of America. Australia? Hm. Is there anything in the center? Hubs need one or more of: access to customers, access to suppliers, access to talent, access to complementary businesses, favorable regulatory environment, and, uh, a certain amount of general momentum. Of course Korea could do it. Just about anyone could. Singapore's Lee Kuan Yew wrote two books about how to do it. Guarantee business an open labor and financial market where foreigners and locals are treated equally, support it with an irreproachable civil service and legal regime, and force a high personal savings rate on the population (which serves to underwrite their quality of life, public services, home ownership, etc.). Of course, I wouldn't want to live there again. Boring as hell...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What makes Kazakhstan so great? 15 million people, and a population dropping fast because anyone with the brains or means to escape is doing so? It takes more than geography to be a hub. Winnipeg is not the hub of Canada, Kansas city not the hub of America. Australia? Hm. Is there anything in the center? Hubs need one or more of: access to customers, access to suppliers, access to talent, access to complementary businesses, favorable regulatory environment, and, uh, a certain amount of general momentum. Of course Korea could do it. Just about anyone could. Singapore&#8217;s Lee Kuan Yew wrote two books about how to do it. Guarantee business an open labor and financial market where foreigners and locals are treated equally, support it with an irreproachable civil service and legal regime, and force a high personal savings rate on the population (which serves to underwrite their quality of life, public services, home ownership, etc.). Of course, I wouldn&#8217;t want to live there again. Boring as hell&#8230;</p>
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