Oh, thank you, 소나기.

I’ll summarize dot-squiggle-asterisk’s post:

P1: Any fool knows how to cut and paste, so your dumb native-English speaking butt should have figured it out.

P2: You should know that Chosun ships made of pine beat Japanese ships made of cedar.

P3: My point is that I was countering Wiesunja’s incorrect comparison.

Yes, I do know some Korean, but not generally enough to carry on a lengthly conversation with someone who I don’t really care to. I suppose I could copy and paste your name, Pepe, but when I tried to do that last time, I ended up at that horrible law4u site because I accidentally clicked on your name. Sadly, I was quite traumatized by the event.

As for the rest of your comment, I didn’t bother to read it fully, but I can only surmise that you’re still fixating on trees and slandering other countries based on what kind of trees appear in certain Korean paintings. Again, it really doesn’t matter what kind of trees appear in what painting, since it takes a mightily bigoted mind to look at objectionable content in a Korean painting and then to turn around and blame that content (directly or indirectly) upon another country.

You know Korean language. Right?
you wrote at somewhere.

아, 거참 답답하시네요.
아니, 도대체 한국에 대한 정보를 어디서 얻는 거에요?

아니 먼저,
제 이름요 copy & paste 로 해결하면 되죠, 뭘.
단툭키 아시죠? ctrl+C, ctrl+v. 그리고 팁 하나.
콕 찍고 shift하는 알라나 모르겠네요.
에효, 컴 기초에다 인터넷이나 네트웍부터 배운 후에
인터넷 하도록 해야 하는데 도대체
개나 소나 인터넷 하게 해놓으니.. -_-;
한국인이나 어느 나라 사람이나 마찬가지더라구요.
외국인이라고 특별히 무시하는 거 없어요.
다만, 영어권 국가 사람이 컴을 못 다루는 건 문제가 있어 보이는데.
자신들의 언어로 되어있어서 엄청 배우기 쉽잖아요. ㅋㅋㅋ

소나무는요,
임진왜란 당시를 보면요,
왜구의 배는 일본 섬에서 흔한 삼나무로 만든 배였구요
조선의 배는 한반도에 흔하던 소나무로 만든 배였답니다.
이 차이로 조선의 해군은 배로 돌진해서 왜구의 배를 깨버렸죠.
소나무와 삼나무에 대한 지식이 필요하겟군요. 이 부분을 이해하시자면.
아무래도 제가 댁에게 설명하는 것은 무리에요.
시간 낭비고.
아, 그리고요 제가요 위에서 ‘have been’이라고 했잖아요. 아, 답답.
귀찮아요.

아, 그리고 당신의 포인트. 흠.
그러니까, wiseinunja씨의 포인트가 뭐다 이거에 대해 말하자면, 아니
그런 틀린 비유를 들어 놓고서 포인트를 내면 뭐하우?
저는 갑네다~

Palm trees have been found only in the far southern part of Korea, whereas pine trees have been throughout the entire Korea.
So, your logic is a false analogy.

●~* (Actually, y’know what? ●~* is kinda hard to type, so I shall henceforth refer to you as Pedro Pendejo, or ‘Pepe’ for short.)

Pepe,

You’ve obviously overlooked the forest for the trees, as it were (no pub intended). Although pine trees may be endemic to the entire peninsula (were they in the 19th Century though? I thought Park Chunghee encouraged the planting of a lot of non-native species…) the point wasn’t what sort of tree appeared in the painting, but that jumping to the particular conclusions you do takes quite a great degree of mental acrobatics, and is generally unsupportable unless you have quite the skewed worldview.

dogbertt,

Then what do you make of this…

“Paul Michaut, a French physician, wrote in 1893, “pederasty is general, it is part of the mores; it is practiced publicly, in the street, without the least reprobation.” He observed that the majority of the participants had syphilis.””

What I make of that is that either you, Michaut, his translator, or all of the above are unable to distinguish between “pederasty” and “pedophilia”.

Anyhow, to explain, “bluejives” claims that in his imaginary Confucian-idyllic Chosun, people lived interconnected lives, were moral, and were prevented from acting in immoral ways due to the disincentive of shame, which shame was intensified by Koreans’ collective and interwoven society.

My point is that bluejives is an ignorant armchair sociologist, which is why I brought out the counter-example of the Pitcairn Islanders, who live in a society even more interrelated and communal than last century’s Korea, yet were rampant child abusers and rapists. It was this very same culture of unchallenged male hegemony and interrelatedness that allowed pedophilia to flourish there. Yet bluejives claims such as society would not permit pedophilia, which is, of course, crap.

Keep on blaming Japan for whatever is bad in Korean society ant take credit for what is good in Japanese society if it makes you forget the geopolitical realities.