Booking club? Maybe it is ‘night club’. Right?
Hmmm. I haven’t been to a night club, room salon, Hong-dae 앞, and E-tae-won. kkk
To shakuhachi, I know 대딸방 review sites. Though I doubt the brain of the businessmen who made up of that service and the users’ character, I’ll tell you the review site if you wanna know.
Room Salon review sites?
There may be.
I know http://www.3exdom, 밤기 and 남아존 .
These sites overflow with sickening Korean males; I think you’ll enjoy them if you’re not a Japanese.
To wjk,
shakuhachi is obsessed with finding fault with Koreans, as everybody knows.
And as everybody knows, there are only a few Korean girls who are not 된장녀들.
So, the logic gets its road to why shakuhachi is interested in Korean girls.
Oh, of couse, I’m not a 된장녀,for I’d like to marry a Walmart LABORER rather than Korean rich and powerful male.
“To wjk,
shakuhachi is obsessed with finding fault with Koreans, as everybody knows.
And as everybody knows, there are only a few Korean girls who are not 된장녀들.
So, the logic gets its road to why shakuhachi is interested in Korean girls.”
I am not critical of Koreans on this point at all. Prostitution exists in various shades around the world, why should I criticize Koreans for it????
“Korean rich and powerful male”? It all depends how you define power and wealth. Besides, you need to marry someone you love. All the money in the world won’t matter when the honeymoon is over, literally and figuratively speaking.
Hey, someguyinKorea, I’m not serious. So, don’t take my comments seriously. My comments are relating blame on 된장녀 & the snubbish Koreans. But, I don’t know what I’m really trying to say about, fot I don’t know what is in my mind.
You do know that 된장녀 is a new Korean expression that is only popular among Koreans and is little known by foreigners in Korea? Besides, that’s not the topic of this discussion.
Whenever wjk posts something with an underlying sexual component, his wires seems to get crossed. And if it involves Japan, any hope of cohesiveness and meaning is lost.
> 된장녀 is a new Korean expression that is only popular
> among Koreans and is little known by foreigners in Korea?
Indeed. In fact I have never yet understood what it means.
I do love good fresh organic homemade 된장 and just recently found a new deep-countryside source of “the real stuff”, but what does it have to do with women?
Can anyone here help a clueless expat out…?
(Marmot’s Hole should have a lexicon feature)
It’s about what 된장녀 is.
Interestingly enough, the president of the so-called greenhouse of 된장녀, that is Starbucks, had and/or has intimate relations with the members of 전태일 기념사업회. You know that the Lee family of Samsung through Sinsegye(신세계) invested into Starbucks Coffee Korea Inc.
Few people have notion on ‘legal person’ and point out the subject who does it correctly; it’s hard to write correct.
Anyway, it’s typical of the route that Starbucks and TGIFridays come into Korea. Comglomerate families do it. I guess that Hooters landed in Korea like this way.
In my opinion, Japanese are the most perverts in the world. Can Shakuhachi find any contradictory evidence?
Japanese teen girls are said to sell their used underwears and middle-aged Japanese males are crazy over the underwears with yellowish excretion of teen girls.
If you turn on E-mule program and search for the word 여중생, most are made in Japan by Japanese. I was shocked. Oh, Don’t search for the word “tnym” Haha. -_-;;; Or after searching for “tnym”, click the right button of your mouse on the link result, copy the URL, paste it to the address section of your webbrowser and then move to the destination.
The term ‘된장녀’ was originally a criticism of the high-maintenance woman who demands expensive, designer-label consumer goods, and who loves for others to notice her with the all her expensive stuff.
These days, however, it’s frequently being used by the less-affluent simply as a criticism of more-wealthy women who have expensive things, no matter what their mind-set.
Darn shame, too - when a woman goes shopping for a horsewhip at Hermes, you don’t want her to develop a complex about it…
In my opinion, Japanese are the most perverts in the world. Can Shakuhachi find any
contradictory evidence?
Why would I bother trying to find any contradictory evidence for you? I am perfectly happy for you to remain ignorant, and happy to let you continue to make comments that make you look stupid.
Japanese teen girls are said to sell their used underwears and middle-aged Japanese males are crazy over the underwears with yellowish excretion of teen girls.
wjk, you just don’t get it do you? I don’t care in the least to argue against racial slurs against my own countrymen, so I am not going to do it for the Japanese. I think your statements speak for them self. I am not going to debate on the subject of which races are ‘perverted’.
To dogbertt,
무슨 말씀. 원조교제는 일본으로부터 왔어요. 한국인들이 그런 변태 같은 걸 ‘창조’해낼 수 없다구요. 대딸방( 여’대’생이 ‘딸’딸이 쳐주는 ‘방’ 또는 ‘대’신 ‘딸’딸이 쳐주는 ‘방’의 줄임이라는 두 개의 속설이 있답니다.) 또한 일본으로부터 왔을 확률이 크지요. 대부분의 지저분한 성(性)관련 사업은 일본으로부터 전해졌답니다. 성에 있어서 일본인 남자들의 두뇌회로가 이상하게 작동한다는 것이 세계인의 일치된 생각 아니었나요? 변태가 가장 많은 곳이 일본이고 그에 한참 뒤져서 일본 걸 모방해서 들여오는 한국이 있죠. 그리고 그 아래에 다른 국가들요. 여기에 반대할 일본과 한국을 제외한 다른 나라의 여성들이 있을 거라 생각하지만, 이건 진리랍니다. 요즘은 중국에서 독자적인 성(性)을 통한 독자적인 사업을 생각해내는 것 같기도 하다고 생각했는데,
중국 정부가 지저분한 일본 문화를 처리를 잘하고 있다는 생각입니다. 이 부분에 있어 중국의 최상급 지도자들에게 경의를 표합니다. 물론, 뇌물이나 처드시고 여자 후리는 데서 내면에 쌓인 열등감을 푸려는 중국지도자가 없지는 않겠지만요.
아, 미국도 있네요. 후터스 ⊙ ⊙
하지만, 지저분하고 기괴한 정도에 있어서 일본과 게임이 되지를 않잖아요. 세상에 딸딸이를 대신 쳐주는 사업이라니. 그리고, 후터스는 나름 적법과 불법 사이에서 고민하는 모습도 보이잖아요.
한국인들은 부모의 과대한 보호 속에서 그리고 좁은 공간에서 자라면서 신분주의를 내면화하는 것 같더라구요. 그래서, 미국에 유학갈 정도의 경제력이 되는 한국인 여성이 월마트 직원과 사귀는 것은 신분에 맞지 않는 행위. 부유층 출신이라고 보도된 앨리스 킴이, 미국에서 취미로 아니면 나중에 “나도 고생했어”라고 달콤한 추억을 만들기 위해서였는지 웨이트리스를 했음에도, 나이 차이가 20 살 이상 나는 미국인 유명 배우 니콜라스 케이지인지 뭔지와 결혼한 것은 한국인인 그들에게 참으로 자랑스러운 일이죠.
그들, 부모들의 기대를 마구 받으면서 오로지 명문대를 가라는 소리를 듣고 자란 한국인들, 그럼에도 명문대를 가지 못한 한국인들은 열등감이 곧 그 사람 자체인 상태가 되어 있죠. 그들에게 계층의 이동이란 있어서는 안되는 일이고 그래서 월마트 직원을 했던 사람이 나중에 대학을 가고 그리고 한국으로 와서 영어강사를 하는 일도 있어서는 안되는 일인 거죠.
전직을 하고 더 나은 다른 직업을 갖는다든가 그들의 가치관에 일치하는 성공을 하는 일은 생각할 수 없는 일인 동시에 유학갈 정도의 한국인 여성이 월마트 직원과 사귀어서는 안되죠. 물론, 알고보니 (세상 물정을 익히라는 아버지의 명령에 따라 신분을 속이고 월마트 직원으로 있는)월마트 사장 아들이었다 이러면 그들, 한국인들의 취급이 많이 달라지겠죠.
신분주의를 과대 습득한 열등감 가득한 한국인 남성들에게, 자신들의 영역이면서 남의 땅인 외국인들은 가지지 않은 자의 딸인 한국여성들만큼이나 만만해 보이고 밟아주죠 싶죠, 가진 한국 여성들에게서 받는 무시를요.
Your post made me laugh..especially when it known that while Japan may offer every type of sexual fetish in the world, it cannot compare to Korea when it comes to the absolute whoring of its women. Only prostitutes from Korea can be found working in all the massage parlors in cities across the North America, South America, Europe and other parts of Asia. No other Asian nation exports its whores like Koreans do.
It’s funny how the poster above writes about how everything bad and sexually depraved in Korea came from Japan. He is the type of Korean who probably believe Japan caused it to rain on his picnic last week, that Japan is responsible for the Sampoong Department Store collapse, or that Japan is responsible for the idiot Korean boxing team in the 1988 Olympics to get caught red-handed for bribing the officials. Yeah..everything bad from Japan.
Right…probably only the Korea-harlots who see nothing wrong in Korea will believe that. Anyone with a brain who has stayed in Korea for more than a month will know how deep rooted the prostitution culture in this country is (I have never seen a whorehouse barbershop anywhere else in the world except in Korea) and how so ingrained in common culture room salons are. Believe me, as wiesunja stated above, even Japanese prostitutes are not found overseas whereas Korea leads the world in exporting its whores.
Please…Japan’s influence on any sort of decline in Korean sexual morals would be as significant as the impact of a fart in a hurricane.
tomas, I guess you didn’t notice that a tremendous portion of South Korean pop culture isn’t too be found parallels in North Korea, and would be found in South Korea and Japan only. Very weird, isn’t it.
I guess you didn’t notice that the latest from Japan somehow immediately finds its way first to Busan, South Korea.
If it’s from Japan, you can find it in Japan. Reasonable, because it does a tremendous lot of trade with Japan.
I never seen a love hotel while Jun Doo Hwan and Roh Tae Woo was in rule. My understanding is, these came in the 90’s while they were in Japan way before that. Of course, Yeo Gwans existed way before, but Love Hotels supposedly cater only to sex customers and provided condoms, sex magazines, sex tv programs, and douches, while the Yeo Gwan was on the face supposed to be motels and none of that is standard service.
Income disparity is huge in South Korea. They go to rich countries to make money. I don’t think they’re going in masses to Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, China, etc.
Did you know Taiwan was a huge exporter of sex workers to Japan until fairly recently?
You don’t like the barbershops and the cafe’s in South Korea?
Maybe you’ll be more astonished with Thailand.
Ever watch any South Korean music shows, such as Kayo top 10, (the word Kayo being straight up borrowed from Japan, too).
Look at this. Exactly the same in Japan and South Korea. Very weirdly enough, no such parallels in North Korea, which has far more restricted trade with Japan.
Not all things from Japan to Korea is bad. Without Japan, Hyundai’s many industries do not come to be. Somethings are bad and they are from Japan. Accept it.
I want to say 무슨 말씀 right back at you. What do you mean 원조교제 came from Japan? Certainly the word originates in Japan, but you cannot blame Japan for teenage Korean girls prostituting themselves to Korean men. ●~*, you look like you have a deep inferiority complex (열등감).
I remember during the late 80s, even before official licensed versions of Dragon Ball came out, knock off, small print versions printed somewhere around Busan could be found months ahead of the licensed versions. US fans wouldn’t know, but Dragon Ball’s early stories are full of depictions such as
Won Jo Gyo Jae,
nose bleed when looking at women’s sexual parts
fetish with a school age girl’s underwear, etc.
Why do you think Japan took 20 years to release Dragon Ball in the US?
원조교제는 일본으로부터 왔어요. This is true. If it’s not, prove it, Japan apologist, Matt Shakuhachi. Prove it.
No, you prove it. Prove that Japanese people forced teenage Korean girls to prostitute themselves to Korean men. It is an amazing ability you have, wjk. When you look at rape porn you are able to blame Japanese people (or Americans if Japanese are not available), when you buy a teenage school girl for sex you also have someone else to blame. Why not blame the people that are actually doing it?
I don’t think I’ll prove that Won Jo Gyo Jae is from Japan, but just to offer up another example of Japanese sexual behavior that is weird, which may or may not be practiced in South Korea,
When I saw Samaria at the Daehancinema in Chungmuro, I was literally aghast and nearly disgusted not only by the movie itself, but by the lack of any noticeable emotional reaction on behalf of the Korean audience.
It was as if it were just another reality show from TV or something. Is schoolgirl prostitution common here, or am I missing something?
Oh sweet Jesus fuck. You all can’t seriously be sitting around masturbatorily discussing who got what sexual perversion from where, can you? Here’s the skinny: You don’t get a high population density from sitting on your hands all day. End of story.
Like ordinary instances here, the topic was off the road and plunged into the quarrel between Japan vs. Korea. I did it. Hehe.
Hey, Shakuhach.
일본에 변태가 가장 많다는 것은 널리 알려진 사실이에요.
굳이 증명이 필요하지 않다구요.
귀찮으니 여기서 투표나 하는 것 어떨까요?
인정한 건 인정을 해야 건설적인 방향으로의 토론이 가능하죠.
일본 변태는 남녀노소를 가리지 않는 것 같더라구요.
여기서 ‘왜녀’나 ‘일본’ 등등으로 찾아보세요.
저런 사진을 찍으면서 저렇게 순진하고 해맑은 웃음을 흘릴 여자가 어느 나라 여자겠어요. -_-;
한국인은 고작 예쁘지도 않고 몸매도 볼 것 없는 Almond Tease 나 이승희 정도죠. 아, 이승희씨는 가슴과 엉덩이는 크면서 허리는 들어가고 그런가요. 얼굴은 별로던데. 몸매도 서양인이나 저기 등장하는 일본인 여자들에 비하면 형편이 없지요.
위에 어느 분인지 모르겠네요.
한국이 요즘 미국 등으로 매춘부를 수출하고 있기는 하죠.
안타까운 일. 후터스와 비교하면 사업적인 마인드가 없는지 머리를 안쓰는지 짜증나요. 후터스를 벤치마킹하고, 그들이 그렇게 붑법적으로 일을 했을 때의 불이익과 범죄적인 일로 거둬들일 수익과를 비교하고서 움직이면 좋을텐데. 국가적인 망신이기도 하고 벌금 등등으로 대한민국의 재산이 빠져나간다니깐요. 매춘으로 외화를 벌어들이는 것이 아니라. 벌여들여봤자 미국 거주 한인들 대상이라서 어차피 대한민국의 것으로 되지는 않을 돈이고.
그렇지만, 그런다고 기괴한 ‘딸딸이 대신 쳐주는 사업”이나 ‘증기탕’ ‘스포츠마사지’ 등등이 일본에서 들여왔다는 ‘사실’이 없어지지는 않는다구요. 매춘이야 어느 국가나 있는 일이고, 일본은 거의 도든 ‘변태’적인 성(性) 산업의 발원지죠.
아 참, http://lezhin.egloos.com/
여기 음란해요. 미성년자는 가지 말 것.
여자 벗은 사진에 역겨움을 느끼시는 분도 가지 말 것.
저 사람 부산에 산다는데, 버젓이 저러고 있다니.
egloos.com은 싸이를 하는 Sk커뮤니케이션즈 주식회사(?)가 하는 곳이에요.
저 사람에게 경고(?)가 나간 걸로 보아 이글루스 회사도 저걸 알고 있고 것 같던데, 그렇다면 이글루스 회사도 같이 책임을 면하지 못할 거에요.
Hey ●~*, have you ever considering that perhaps, just perhaps, Korean laws against pornography are designed to suppress the very things that you have pointed out? We will never have a true measure of just how much unless it is legalized in Korea. I read somewhere that Korea is the one of the biggest consumers of Japanese porn, though.
That’s absolutely true. It’s funny how Korean guys will always remark at how sick and perverted Japanese porn is but then at the same time, they are the ones who search frantically on the internet to download any type of pornography from Japan so they can revel in their masturbatory fantasy. Believe me…that bullshit from Korean men saying how all Japanese women want them is about the most laughable thing in the world. It’s funny to see hordes of these ugly square jaw Korean guys come to Japan and overhear them talking about how good looking Japanese girls think they are only to see them being ridiculed and laughed at by the girls (unbeknowns to them since they speak in Japanese) about how ugly and “dasai” these Korean guys are. What’s even funnier is that the girl remark that it would be different if the ugly guys were polite and humble, but only Korean guys seem to be the ones who feel they can be arrogant even while looking like a complete zero. I really wonder what goes on in the Korean neural synapse..
However, at least it provides entertainment to look at. I have to admit…Koreans are damn funny to watch.
What shakuhachi wrote is spot on. You can see from all the Korean videos on the internet that they are obsessed with pornography be it Japanese or not. Koreans are just as, if not, more perverted than Japan or any other country in the world. Of course, there is nothing wrong with this as a voracious appetite for sexuality is part of being human as long as it doesn’t lead to criminal behavior (won’t get into statistics of rape incidences in Korea or anywhere else, because that will open up a whole other can of beans).
However, what differentiates Korea from Japan or other liberal thinking progressive first world nations in Europe where pornography is readily available as a healthy outlet for human needs is that Korea does its best to hide its “dirty side” or deny that it exists. However, once foreigners do find this “dirty side” of Korea’s smut society, the Korean reaction is not to admit it but to blame it on Japan. But then again, this cowardly behavior of not taking responsibility for its own actions or not refusing to admit the truth is hardly a surprise coming from Koreans.
Also, it really is telling that societies where pornography and a healthy, liberal and open attitude towards sex are usually ones in first world countries with a very low crime rate and very progressive thinking.
Contrast that to nations which view human sexuality as evil or something which should be “hidden” at all costs and restrict its populace by force from having access to pornography. With the exception of the red-state dominated Bush constituents in the US, hardly any first world nations fall into this category, and furthermore, most of them are marked by totalitarian, dictatorial governments which are a throwback to very backwards and antiquated thinking common in third-world countries. Also, because of this forced repression of any outlet for sexual relief, incidences of
sexual-related crimes such as rape are astronomically high.
Just as well though since it really doesn’t matter to me whether or not Koreans continue to live with their heads in the sands repeating “Prostitution and sexual fetishes are evil and do not exist in our society…only in other countries” over and over again.
shakuhachi씨가 쓴 대로입니다.한국인은 일본인과 같을 정도 또 그것 보다 더 변태인 것입니다.그러나, 뒤에 숨기지 않고 일본의 사회와 달리, 한국은 여하 해도 밖에(다른 나라로 보여지지 않게) 자신의 더러운 또 스스로에게 있어서 자국의 수치라고 생각되는 면을 절대 숨긴다.이것이 한국의 전형적인 국민성인 비겁한 열등감을 나타낸다.
let me tell you, Shakuhachi, wiesunja, and tomas. As your Japan porno expert (a charge I deny, but you have graciously crowned me with. I explain many times, but I don’t care at this point, kind of like talking to deaf people), the reason why South Korea may show a high usage of Japanese porn is,
because Japan happens to be the 90% source of all porn in the region. Astonishing, isnt’ it?
Or maybe not.
Google Japanese women. All porn.
Google Korean women. Far less porn.
Google Chinese women. Far less porn.
Why? Again, a public service message from your Japanese porn expert (again, again, again, a charge I deny politely, but you crown me with, even though I deny it solidly).
And ever observed the places South Korean prostitutes go to in search of money? Osaka, Los Angeles, New York, Toronto, Houston. Not Moscow, Berlin (Eastern European women go there instead), London, Paris, Stockholm, Amsterdam, Nariobi, Hanoi, Hong Kong, Kuala Lampur, Madrid, etc.
What’s the difference? They’re going for money, but they’re also going where there are Korean communities. I think it’s pretty safe to say they won’t be found in Iowa. South Koreans aren’t the leaders of exporting whores just because they’re South Korean. These women have a dismal life in South Korea, and for the same reason as the Eastern European women, they go to countries they can enter and make more money. And they happen to go places where there are Koreans. I don’t think, though, they’re going to Argentina or Brazil, probably because of money.
They’re going for money, but they’re also going where there are Korean communities. I think it’s pretty safe to say they won’t be found in Iowa. South Koreans aren’t the leaders of exporting whores just because they’re South Korean. These women have a dismal life in South Korea, and for the same reason as the Eastern European women, they go to countries they can enter and make more money. And they happen to go places where there are Koreans. I don’t think, though, they’re going to Argentina or Brazil, probably because of money.
gook means country. I guess the GI’s thought it was funny, since gook relates to Ae-gook-sim (love of country), gook-min (citizens), gook as in soup, gook-gi (flag), etc.
Wiesunja, Japan is highly sophisticated and progressive? Is that way they can’t export a kiddie cartoon for 20 years without editing it extensively? LOL.
“Also, it really is telling that societies where pornography and a healthy, liberal and open attitude towards sex are usually ones in first world countries with a very low crime rate and very progressive thinking.”
/ Beautiful riots in France last year. Did you miss it?
I’m bored.
Why do some people here try to concede the world No.1 rank of 변태왕국 to Korea?
You know Entropy Law, and this Entropy Law applies to the dissemination of pronoes and disorderly sex businesses. In the beginning was the Word, and in the beginning in Japan was dirty sex businesses.
Most queer dirty sex businesses were created and organised in Japan, spread into Korea which is physically the nearest country; it’s Korea’s destiny.
So, we must curb the speed of disorderly state by law. Sorry to say, it seems that China does it better than Korea.
Korean government must become harder than now and ago, for Korea is the most succeptible to the dirty businesses of Japan by the geographic distance.
Yawn, yawn.
Here’s a fantastic life of an Engish girl,
“So, we must curb the speed of disorderly state by law. Sorry to say, it seems that China does it better than Korea.”
The reason is simple. It’s because Koreans love their whores as it is deeply ingrained in their culture. Who cares about “변태”…as as they are doing it for money, Koreans don’t find anything wrong with it.
Yawn..it is boring. Funny how Korea touts itself as a first world nation but still is a world leader in exporting its prostitutes overseas. No other country in Asia the world does that to the extent of Korea. At least they keep their whores to themselves which is their perogative.
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Glad I’m married.
When do we get the marmots guide to hostess clubs? Speaking of that, are there any room salon review sites on the Korean web?
That was great reading it from the other side. Nice linking both posts (and thanks for the link too).
Booking club? Maybe it is ‘night club’. Right?
Hmmm. I haven’t been to a night club, room salon, Hong-dae 앞, and E-tae-won. kkk
To shakuhachi, I know 대딸방 review sites. Though I doubt the brain of the businessmen who made up of that service and the users’ character, I’ll tell you the review site if you wanna know.
Room Salon review sites?
There may be.
I know http://www.3exdom, 밤기 and 남아존 .
These sites overflow with sickening Korean males; I think you’ll enjoy them if you’re not a Japanese.
shakuhachi is interested in Korean girls? Why? I would have never arrived to that by logic.
To wjk,
shakuhachi is obsessed with finding fault with Koreans, as everybody knows.
And as everybody knows, there are only a few Korean girls who are not 된장녀들.
So, the logic gets its road to why shakuhachi is interested in Korean girls.
Oh, of couse, I’m not a 된장녀,for I’d like to marry a Walmart LABORER rather than Korean rich and powerful male.
As Richardson said - and I don’t always feel this way - glad to be married!
“To wjk,
shakuhachi is obsessed with finding fault with Koreans, as everybody knows.
And as everybody knows, there are only a few Korean girls who are not 된장녀들.
So, the logic gets its road to why shakuhachi is interested in Korean girls.”
I am not critical of Koreans on this point at all. Prostitution exists in various shades around the world, why should I criticize Koreans for it????
.~*,
“Korean rich and powerful male”? It all depends how you define power and wealth. Besides, you need to marry someone you love. All the money in the world won’t matter when the honeymoon is over, literally and figuratively speaking.
wjk, hahaha!!! Spot on about shakuhachi!
Hey, someguyinKorea, I’m not serious. So, don’t take my comments seriously. My comments are relating blame on 된장녀 & the snubbish Koreans. But, I don’t know what I’m really trying to say about, fot I don’t know what is in my mind.
Someguy: “you need to marry someone you love. All the money in the world won’t matter when the honeymoon is over…”
That’s when Korean women these days need it the most: A little 정 and a lot of 돈 go a long, long way towards a satisfied mind.
shakuhachi, you’re so Japanese.
I thought booking was to look for a girl, not a whore.
NEWS FLASH: Most of the Koreans in the booking clubs are as well. Gyopo heaven is a big booking club in the sky.
So who invented the booking club?
In Japan a girl working in a hostess club is not necessarily a whore. There is a big difference between hostess clubs in Korea and Japan.
“된장녀 & the snubbish Koreans”
You do know that 된장녀 is a new Korean expression that is only popular among Koreans and is little known by foreigners in Korea? Besides, that’s not the topic of this discussion.
I’m just surprised uhoooo’s a woman!
Any Walmart laborers left in Korea, or have they all been outsourced to the PRC?
shakuhachi, yes, yes. I know. No girl in Japan is a whore. There is a HUGE difference, indeed.
“shakuhachi, yes, yes. I know. No girl in Japan is a whore. There is a HUGE difference, indeed.”
What are you talking about?
Whenever wjk posts something with an underlying sexual component, his wires seems to get crossed. And if it involves Japan, any hope of cohesiveness and meaning is lost.
No girl in Japan is a whore? Then what is all this commotion about?
> 된장녀 is a new Korean expression that is only popular
> among Koreans and is little known by foreigners in Korea?
Indeed. In fact I have never yet understood what it means.
I do love good fresh organic homemade 된장 and just recently found a new deep-countryside source of “the real stuff”, but what does it have to do with women?
Can anyone here help a clueless expat out…?
(Marmot’s Hole should have a lexicon feature)
Sanshinseon—Here’s the answer. We also ran a piece on it in SEOUL. And the term is used because it sounds similar to 젠장.
It’s our equivalent of a ‘label whore’.
’shallow bitch’ works well too
http://www.law4u.net/tech/boar.....amp;no=123
It’s about what 된장녀 is.
Interestingly enough, the president of the so-called greenhouse of 된장녀, that is Starbucks, had and/or has intimate relations with the members of 전태일 기념사업회. You know that the Lee family of Samsung through Sinsegye(신세계) invested into Starbucks Coffee Korea Inc.
Few people have notion on ‘legal person’ and point out the subject who does it correctly; it’s hard to write correct.
Anyway, it’s typical of the route that Starbucks and TGIFridays come into Korea. Comglomerate families do it. I guess that Hooters landed in Korea like this way.
In my opinion, Japanese are the most perverts in the world. Can Shakuhachi find any contradictory evidence?
Japanese teen girls are said to sell their used underwears and middle-aged Japanese males are crazy over the underwears with yellowish excretion of teen girls.
If you turn on E-mule program and search for the word 여중생, most are made in Japan by Japanese. I was shocked. Oh, Don’t search for the word “tnym” Haha. -_-;;; Or after searching for “tnym”, click the right button of your mouse on the link result, copy the URL, paste it to the address section of your webbrowser and then move to the destination.
The term ‘된장녀’ was originally a criticism of the high-maintenance woman who demands expensive, designer-label consumer goods, and who loves for others to notice her with the all her expensive stuff.
These days, however, it’s frequently being used by the less-affluent simply as a criticism of more-wealthy women who have expensive things, no matter what their mind-set.
Darn shame, too - when a woman goes shopping for a horsewhip at Hermes, you don’t want her to develop a complex about it…
I’m not getting it. Why are they using the term “bean paste”?
The next Korean reality show; couples accidentally meeting each other at booking clubs.
Why would I bother trying to find any contradictory evidence for you? I am perfectly happy for you to remain ignorant, and happy to let you continue to make comments that make you look stupid.
it’s true, isn’t it, Shakuhachi?
원조교제란 단어를 모르시나 보네여 … 그리고 당신은 색깔까지 다 아시네여 ^^~
wjk님 … 야한 걸 더 이상 몰두지 말고 변태또라이 되지 말장
wjk, you just don’t get it do you? I don’t care in the least to argue against racial slurs against my own countrymen, so I am not going to do it for the Japanese. I think your statements speak for them self. I am not going to debate on the subject of which races are ‘perverted’.
“And the term is used because it sounds similar to 젠장.”
How does that relate to materialistic bimbo?
Nice and mature, dogbertt…calling wjk a “Byun-tae.” That really argued the case well for you. *sarcastically said*
And Shakuhachi….you’re Japanese? or Australian? or both as someone once suspected?
No, I warned him about becoming a 변태. Maybe you need an extension course in Korean.
To dogbertt,
무슨 말씀. 원조교제는 일본으로부터 왔어요. 한국인들이 그런 변태 같은 걸 ‘창조’해낼 수 없다구요. 대딸방( 여’대’생이 ‘딸’딸이 쳐주는 ‘방’ 또는 ‘대’신 ‘딸’딸이 쳐주는 ‘방’의 줄임이라는 두 개의 속설이 있답니다.) 또한 일본으로부터 왔을 확률이 크지요. 대부분의 지저분한 성(性)관련 사업은 일본으로부터 전해졌답니다. 성에 있어서 일본인 남자들의 두뇌회로가 이상하게 작동한다는 것이 세계인의 일치된 생각 아니었나요? 변태가 가장 많은 곳이 일본이고 그에 한참 뒤져서 일본 걸 모방해서 들여오는 한국이 있죠. 그리고 그 아래에 다른 국가들요. 여기에 반대할 일본과 한국을 제외한 다른 나라의 여성들이 있을 거라 생각하지만, 이건 진리랍니다. 요즘은 중국에서 독자적인 성(性)을 통한 독자적인 사업을 생각해내는 것 같기도 하다고 생각했는데,
http://news.naver.com/news/rea.....0000001212
이런 것요. 역시나! 일본으로부터 왔군요!
중국 정부가 지저분한 일본 문화를 처리를 잘하고 있다는 생각입니다. 이 부분에 있어 중국의 최상급 지도자들에게 경의를 표합니다. 물론, 뇌물이나 처드시고 여자 후리는 데서 내면에 쌓인 열등감을 푸려는 중국지도자가 없지는 않겠지만요.
아, 미국도 있네요. 후터스 ⊙ ⊙
하지만, 지저분하고 기괴한 정도에 있어서 일본과 게임이 되지를 않잖아요. 세상에 딸딸이를 대신 쳐주는 사업이라니. 그리고, 후터스는 나름 적법과 불법 사이에서 고민하는 모습도 보이잖아요.
영국은,
이 기사와 덧글을 읽으면서 경탄하게 되더군요.
http://commentisfree.guardian......_1019.html
오오, 스포츠 신문을 보지 않는 인물들이 저리 많다니. 한국 뉴스 포털에서 성매매 합법화하라면서 떠들어대는 한국인 남성들과 참으로 비교되죠.
그리고, http://www.law4u.net/tech/boar.....&no=34
저기서 따라가서 한국남자들 노는 꼴들 구경이나 하시고 즐기고 싶다면 즐기세요.
한국인들은 부모의 과대한 보호 속에서 그리고 좁은 공간에서 자라면서 신분주의를 내면화하는 것 같더라구요. 그래서, 미국에 유학갈 정도의 경제력이 되는 한국인 여성이 월마트 직원과 사귀는 것은 신분에 맞지 않는 행위. 부유층 출신이라고 보도된 앨리스 킴이, 미국에서 취미로 아니면 나중에 “나도 고생했어”라고 달콤한 추억을 만들기 위해서였는지 웨이트리스를 했음에도, 나이 차이가 20 살 이상 나는 미국인 유명 배우 니콜라스 케이지인지 뭔지와 결혼한 것은 한국인인 그들에게 참으로 자랑스러운 일이죠.
그들, 부모들의 기대를 마구 받으면서 오로지 명문대를 가라는 소리를 듣고 자란 한국인들, 그럼에도 명문대를 가지 못한 한국인들은 열등감이 곧 그 사람 자체인 상태가 되어 있죠. 그들에게 계층의 이동이란 있어서는 안되는 일이고 그래서 월마트 직원을 했던 사람이 나중에 대학을 가고 그리고 한국으로 와서 영어강사를 하는 일도 있어서는 안되는 일인 거죠.
전직을 하고 더 나은 다른 직업을 갖는다든가 그들의 가치관에 일치하는 성공을 하는 일은 생각할 수 없는 일인 동시에 유학갈 정도의 한국인 여성이 월마트 직원과 사귀어서는 안되죠. 물론, 알고보니 (세상 물정을 익히라는 아버지의 명령에 따라 신분을 속이고 월마트 직원으로 있는)월마트 사장 아들이었다 이러면 그들, 한국인들의 취급이 많이 달라지겠죠.
신분주의를 과대 습득한 열등감 가득한 한국인 남성들에게, 자신들의 영역이면서 남의 땅인 외국인들은 가지지 않은 자의 딸인 한국여성들만큼이나 만만해 보이고 밟아주죠 싶죠, 가진 한국 여성들에게서 받는 무시를요.
속옷에 묻은 분비물의 색깔이 인종에 관계없이 죄 누르끼리하지 않나요?
.~
Your post made me laugh..especially when it known that while Japan may offer every type of sexual fetish in the world, it cannot compare to Korea when it comes to the absolute whoring of its women. Only prostitutes from Korea can be found working in all the massage parlors in cities across the North America, South America, Europe and other parts of Asia. No other Asian nation exports its whores like Koreans do.
http://english.donga.com/srv/s.....5070491478
http://communitydispatch.com/a.....6058.shtml
The list goes on…it would take forever to list news of every single Korean prostitution ring busted.
Oh, but I guess to Koreans like yourself, selling your sister’s ass overseas is much more morally upright than just sexual fetishes.
It’s funny how the poster above writes about how everything bad and sexually depraved in Korea came from Japan. He is the type of Korean who probably believe Japan caused it to rain on his picnic last week, that Japan is responsible for the Sampoong Department Store collapse, or that Japan is responsible for the idiot Korean boxing team in the 1988 Olympics to get caught red-handed for bribing the officials. Yeah..everything bad from Japan.
Right…probably only the Korea-harlots who see nothing wrong in Korea will believe that. Anyone with a brain who has stayed in Korea for more than a month will know how deep rooted the prostitution culture in this country is (I have never seen a whorehouse barbershop anywhere else in the world except in Korea) and how so ingrained in common culture room salons are. Believe me, as wiesunja stated above, even Japanese prostitutes are not found overseas whereas Korea leads the world in exporting its whores.
Please…Japan’s influence on any sort of decline in Korean sexual morals would be as significant as the impact of a fart in a hurricane.
tomas, I guess you didn’t notice that a tremendous portion of South Korean pop culture isn’t too be found parallels in North Korea, and would be found in South Korea and Japan only. Very weird, isn’t it.
I guess you didn’t notice that the latest from Japan somehow immediately finds its way first to Busan, South Korea.
If it’s from Japan, you can find it in Japan. Reasonable, because it does a tremendous lot of trade with Japan.
I never seen a love hotel while Jun Doo Hwan and Roh Tae Woo was in rule. My understanding is, these came in the 90’s while they were in Japan way before that. Of course, Yeo Gwans existed way before, but Love Hotels supposedly cater only to sex customers and provided condoms, sex magazines, sex tv programs, and douches, while the Yeo Gwan was on the face supposed to be motels and none of that is standard service.
Income disparity is huge in South Korea. They go to rich countries to make money. I don’t think they’re going in masses to Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, China, etc.
Did you know Taiwan was a huge exporter of sex workers to Japan until fairly recently?
You don’t like the barbershops and the cafe’s in South Korea?
Maybe you’ll be more astonished with Thailand.
Ever watch any South Korean music shows, such as Kayo top 10, (the word Kayo being straight up borrowed from Japan, too).
Look at this. Exactly the same in Japan and South Korea. Very weirdly enough, no such parallels in North Korea, which has far more restricted trade with Japan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLhVETsvgdU
Not all things from Japan to Korea is bad. Without Japan, Hyundai’s many industries do not come to be. Somethings are bad and they are from Japan. Accept it.
If it’s from Japan, you can find it in Busan.
I want to say 무슨 말씀 right back at you. What do you mean 원조교제 came from Japan? Certainly the word originates in Japan, but you cannot blame Japan for teenage Korean girls prostituting themselves to Korean men. ●~*, you look like you have a deep inferiority complex (열등감).
I remember during the late 80s, even before official licensed versions of Dragon Ball came out, knock off, small print versions printed somewhere around Busan could be found months ahead of the licensed versions. US fans wouldn’t know, but Dragon Ball’s early stories are full of depictions such as
Won Jo Gyo Jae,
nose bleed when looking at women’s sexual parts
fetish with a school age girl’s underwear, etc.
Why do you think Japan took 20 years to release Dragon Ball in the US?
원조교제는 일본으로부터 왔어요. This is true. If it’s not, prove it, Japan apologist, Matt Shakuhachi. Prove it.
by the way, my friend in Taiwan says something similar to the barbershop deal is rampant in Taiwan. I forgot what exactly it was, though.
No, you prove it. Prove that Japanese people forced teenage Korean girls to prostitute themselves to Korean men. It is an amazing ability you have, wjk. When you look at rape porn you are able to blame Japanese people (or Americans if Japanese are not available), when you buy a teenage school girl for sex you also have someone else to blame. Why not blame the people that are actually doing it?
erm…wjk,
I believe the burden of proof would be on the person making the original assertion - maybe it’s just me….
person a: makes unsubstantiated claim
person b: you can’t be serious
person a (or c): prove it’s not!
It doesn’t work that way.
The level of Korean in the original post is beyond so if there actually is any evidence there, I apologize.
I don’t think I’ll prove that Won Jo Gyo Jae is from Japan, but just to offer up another example of Japanese sexual behavior that is weird, which may or may not be practiced in South Korea,
여체회 check out that word,
http://news.naver.com/news/rea.....0000001212
check out that link,
and check out this American made movie, which has nothing to do with Korea, and yet shows 여체회.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107969/
Rising Sun. I think this movie received criticism from the US Japanese community when it came out.
When I saw Samaria at the Daehancinema in Chungmuro, I was literally aghast and nearly disgusted not only by the movie itself, but by the lack of any noticeable emotional reaction on behalf of the Korean audience.
It was as if it were just another reality show from TV or something. Is schoolgirl prostitution common here, or am I missing something?
Oh sweet Jesus fuck. You all can’t seriously be sitting around masturbatorily discussing who got what sexual perversion from where, can you? Here’s the skinny: You don’t get a high population density from sitting on your hands all day. End of story.
zonath, you were jacking off reading this? that’s you. Don’t attribute it to anyone else.
Oh come off it. I’m not the one ’studying’ these things and then passing them off on other cultures here.
>>ㅑ호!
Like ordinary instances here, the topic was off the road and plunged into the quarrel between Japan vs. Korea. I did it. Hehe.
Hey, Shakuhach.
일본에 변태가 가장 많다는 것은 널리 알려진 사실이에요.
굳이 증명이 필요하지 않다구요.
귀찮으니 여기서 투표나 하는 것 어떨까요?
인정한 건 인정을 해야 건설적인 방향으로의 토론이 가능하죠.
일본 변태는 남녀노소를 가리지 않는 것 같더라구요.
http://lezhin.egloos.com/
http://finder.egloos.com/per_f.....&flg=1
여기서 ‘왜녀’나 ‘일본’ 등등으로 찾아보세요.
저런 사진을 찍으면서 저렇게 순진하고 해맑은 웃음을 흘릴 여자가 어느 나라 여자겠어요. -_-;
한국인은 고작 예쁘지도 않고 몸매도 볼 것 없는 Almond Tease 나 이승희 정도죠. 아, 이승희씨는 가슴과 엉덩이는 크면서 허리는 들어가고 그런가요. 얼굴은 별로던데. 몸매도 서양인이나 저기 등장하는 일본인 여자들에 비하면 형편이 없지요.
위에 어느 분인지 모르겠네요.
한국이 요즘 미국 등으로 매춘부를 수출하고 있기는 하죠.
안타까운 일. 후터스와 비교하면 사업적인 마인드가 없는지 머리를 안쓰는지 짜증나요. 후터스를 벤치마킹하고, 그들이 그렇게 붑법적으로 일을 했을 때의 불이익과 범죄적인 일로 거둬들일 수익과를 비교하고서 움직이면 좋을텐데. 국가적인 망신이기도 하고 벌금 등등으로 대한민국의 재산이 빠져나간다니깐요. 매춘으로 외화를 벌어들이는 것이 아니라. 벌여들여봤자 미국 거주 한인들 대상이라서 어차피 대한민국의 것으로 되지는 않을 돈이고.
그렇지만, 그런다고 기괴한 ‘딸딸이 대신 쳐주는 사업”이나 ‘증기탕’ ‘스포츠마사지’ 등등이 일본에서 들여왔다는 ‘사실’이 없어지지는 않는다구요. 매춘이야 어느 국가나 있는 일이고, 일본은 거의 도든 ‘변태’적인 성(性) 산업의 발원지죠.
아 참,
http://lezhin.egloos.com/
여기 음란해요. 미성년자는 가지 말 것.
여자 벗은 사진에 역겨움을 느끼시는 분도 가지 말 것.
저 사람 부산에 산다는데, 버젓이 저러고 있다니.
egloos.com은 싸이를 하는 Sk커뮤니케이션즈 주식회사(?)가 하는 곳이에요.
저 사람에게 경고(?)가 나간 걸로 보아 이글루스 회사도 저걸 알고 있고 것 같던데, 그렇다면 이글루스 회사도 같이 책임을 면하지 못할 거에요.
wjk,
You can get help…….
“Hey, Shakuhach.
일본에 변태가 가장 많다는 것은 널리 알려진 사실이에요.”
Hey ●~*, have you ever considering that perhaps, just perhaps, Korean laws against pornography are designed to suppress the very things that you have pointed out? We will never have a true measure of just how much unless it is legalized in Korea. I read somewhere that Korea is the one of the biggest consumers of Japanese porn, though.
That’s absolutely true. It’s funny how Korean guys will always remark at how sick and perverted Japanese porn is but then at the same time, they are the ones who search frantically on the internet to download any type of pornography from Japan so they can revel in their masturbatory fantasy. Believe me…that bullshit from Korean men saying how all Japanese women want them is about the most laughable thing in the world. It’s funny to see hordes of these ugly square jaw Korean guys come to Japan and overhear them talking about how good looking Japanese girls think they are only to see them being ridiculed and laughed at by the girls (unbeknowns to them since they speak in Japanese) about how ugly and “dasai” these Korean guys are. What’s even funnier is that the girl remark that it would be different if the ugly guys were polite and humble, but only Korean guys seem to be the ones who feel they can be arrogant even while looking like a complete zero. I really wonder what goes on in the Korean neural synapse..
However, at least it provides entertainment to look at. I have to admit…Koreans are damn funny to watch.
What shakuhachi wrote is spot on. You can see from all the Korean videos on the internet that they are obsessed with pornography be it Japanese or not. Koreans are just as, if not, more perverted than Japan or any other country in the world. Of course, there is nothing wrong with this as a voracious appetite for sexuality is part of being human as long as it doesn’t lead to criminal behavior (won’t get into statistics of rape incidences in Korea or anywhere else, because that will open up a whole other can of beans).
However, what differentiates Korea from Japan or other liberal thinking progressive first world nations in Europe where pornography is readily available as a healthy outlet for human needs is that Korea does its best to hide its “dirty side” or deny that it exists. However, once foreigners do find this “dirty side” of Korea’s smut society, the Korean reaction is not to admit it but to blame it on Japan. But then again, this cowardly behavior of not taking responsibility for its own actions or not refusing to admit the truth is hardly a surprise coming from Koreans.
Also, it really is telling that societies where pornography and a healthy, liberal and open attitude towards sex are usually ones in first world countries with a very low crime rate and very progressive thinking.
Contrast that to nations which view human sexuality as evil or something which should be “hidden” at all costs and restrict its populace by force from having access to pornography. With the exception of the red-state dominated Bush constituents in the US, hardly any first world nations fall into this category, and furthermore, most of them are marked by totalitarian, dictatorial governments which are a throwback to very backwards and antiquated thinking common in third-world countries. Also, because of this forced repression of any outlet for sexual relief, incidences of
sexual-related crimes such as rape are astronomically high.
Just as well though since it really doesn’t matter to me whether or not Koreans continue to live with their heads in the sands repeating “Prostitution and sexual fetishes are evil and do not exist in our society…only in other countries” over and over again.
shakuhachi씨가 쓴 대로입니다.한국인은 일본인과 같을 정도 또 그것 보다 더 변태인 것입니다.그러나, 뒤에 숨기지 않고 일본의 사회와 달리, 한국은 여하 해도 밖에(다른 나라로 보여지지 않게) 자신의 더러운 또 스스로에게 있어서 자국의 수치라고 생각되는 면을 절대 숨긴다.이것이 한국의 전형적인 국민성인 비겁한 열등감을 나타낸다.
let me tell you, Shakuhachi, wiesunja, and tomas. As your Japan porno expert (a charge I deny, but you have graciously crowned me with. I explain many times, but I don’t care at this point, kind of like talking to deaf people), the reason why South Korea may show a high usage of Japanese porn is,
because Japan happens to be the 90% source of all porn in the region. Astonishing, isnt’ it?
Or maybe not.
Google Japanese women. All porn.
Google Korean women. Far less porn.
Google Chinese women. Far less porn.
Why? Again, a public service message from your Japanese porn expert (again, again, again, a charge I deny politely, but you crown me with, even though I deny it solidly).
And ever observed the places South Korean prostitutes go to in search of money? Osaka, Los Angeles, New York, Toronto, Houston. Not Moscow, Berlin (Eastern European women go there instead), London, Paris, Stockholm, Amsterdam, Nariobi, Hanoi, Hong Kong, Kuala Lampur, Madrid, etc.
What’s the difference? They’re going for money, but they’re also going where there are Korean communities. I think it’s pretty safe to say they won’t be found in Iowa. South Koreans aren’t the leaders of exporting whores just because they’re South Korean. These women have a dismal life in South Korea, and for the same reason as the Eastern European women, they go to countries they can enter and make more money. And they happen to go places where there are Koreans. I don’t think, though, they’re going to Argentina or Brazil, probably because of money.
Japan is a porno sun jin gook, no question about it.
wjk wrote:
“…sun jin gook”
Why do you write “gook” which is a racist term for Koreans? I am not sure what your intent is.
gook means country. I guess the GI’s thought it was funny, since gook relates to Ae-gook-sim (love of country), gook-min (citizens), gook as in soup, gook-gi (flag), etc.
Wiesunja, Japan is highly sophisticated and progressive? Is that way they can’t export a kiddie cartoon for 20 years without editing it extensively? LOL.
“Also, it really is telling that societies where pornography and a healthy, liberal and open attitude towards sex are usually ones in first world countries with a very low crime rate and very progressive thinking.”
/ Beautiful riots in France last year. Did you miss it?
in a progressive country like Japan, there should be no way that the conservative LDP wins almost every election. Wait a minute…
I’m bored.
Why do some people here try to concede the world No.1 rank of 변태왕국 to Korea?
You know Entropy Law, and this Entropy Law applies to the dissemination of pronoes and disorderly sex businesses. In the beginning was the Word, and in the beginning in Japan was dirty sex businesses.
Most queer dirty sex businesses were created and organised in Japan, spread into Korea which is physically the nearest country; it’s Korea’s destiny.
So, we must curb the speed of disorderly state by law. Sorry to say, it seems that China does it better than Korea.
Korean government must become harder than now and ago, for Korea is the most succeptible to the dirty businesses of Japan by the geographic distance.
Yawn, yawn.
Here’s a fantastic life of an Engish girl,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pag.....ge_id=1770
“So, we must curb the speed of disorderly state by law. Sorry to say, it seems that China does it better than Korea.”
The reason is simple. It’s because Koreans love their whores as it is deeply ingrained in their culture. Who cares about “변태”…as as they are doing it for money, Koreans don’t find anything wrong with it.
Yawn..it is boring. Funny how Korea touts itself as a first world nation but still is a world leader in exporting its prostitutes overseas. No other country in Asia the world does that to the extent of Korea. At least they keep their whores to themselves which is their perogative.
miss wiesunja, u must be female version of shabukkake. please dont blame korean whores for ur lack of sex life. u have nobody to blame but urself.
Who cares.
Congratulations to wjk (again) for turning into a Korea/Japan thing.
Yep. WJK is just about the physical embodiment of the Korean Corollary of Godwin’s Law.