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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;I don&#8217;t remember, but I&#8217;m sorry&#8217;: U.S. soldier accused of rape</title>
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		<title>By: MrChips</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/01/16/i-dont-remember-but-im-sorry-us-soldier-accused-of-rape/#comment-64687</link>
		<dc:creator>MrChips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps Burwell B. Bell could institute a new policy of deterrence.  Private Rapist, meet Madame Petite Guillotine. Bonjour! shwack...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps Burwell B. Bell could institute a new policy of deterrence.  Private Rapist, meet Madame Petite Guillotine. Bonjour! shwack&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/01/16/i-dont-remember-but-im-sorry-us-soldier-accused-of-rape/#comment-64683</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sperwer wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Hey Sonagi, when did the guy who relies on Amazon blurbs for information about the location of a bamboo grove, among other things, suddenly get so picky about hearsay?  ) 

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Cute.  I was expecting that, but since you studied law, you ought to recognize the difference between the description of a setting in a book review and a claim to have "inside information" that an accused yet unconvicted person is guilty.  A newspaper wouldn't get sued for incorrect details in a book review, but it might if it printed remarks like Starz' in a crime story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sperwer wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Hey Sonagi, when did the guy who relies on Amazon blurbs for information about the location of a bamboo grove, among other things, suddenly get so picky about hearsay?  ) </p>
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<p>Cute.  I was expecting that, but since you studied law, you ought to recognize the difference between the description of a setting in a book review and a claim to have &#8220;inside information&#8221; that an accused yet unconvicted person is guilty.  A newspaper wouldn&#8217;t get sued for incorrect details in a book review, but it might if it printed remarks like Starz&#8217; in a crime story.</p>
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		<title>By: seouldout</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/01/16/i-dont-remember-but-im-sorry-us-soldier-accused-of-rape/#comment-64570</link>
		<dc:creator>seouldout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 09:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...it is the first soldier handled under the new SOFA agreement.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Kind of unusual that CID hasn't been allowed to meet with the soldier after he was handed over to the Koreans. So far only his lawyer has seen him.  Case is potentially too explosive for USFK to raise an objection that this runs contrary to the SOFA. 

BTW, 2ID is getting locked down.   Protesting bar owners in TDC is preferable to the masses outside Yongsan's main gate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;it is the first soldier handled under the new SOFA agreement.</p></blockquote>
<p>Kind of unusual that CID hasn&#8217;t been allowed to meet with the soldier after he was handed over to the Koreans. So far only his lawyer has seen him.  Case is potentially too explosive for USFK to raise an objection that this runs contrary to the SOFA. </p>
<p>BTW, 2ID is getting locked down.   Protesting bar owners in TDC is preferable to the masses outside Yongsan&#8217;s main gate.</p>
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		<title>By: Sperwer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sperwer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 03:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Sonagi, when did the guy who relies on Amazon blurbs for information about the location of a bamboo grove, among other things, suddenly get so picky about hearsay?  ;))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Sonagi, when did the guy who relies on Amazon blurbs for information about the location of a bamboo grove, among other things, suddenly get so picky about hearsay?  ;))</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>starz_lie wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;my boyfriend is in the same unit in korea as the guy that raped this women and according to him all the accusations are true 

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Was your boyfriend there at the scene?  Did he witness it?  Your hearsay reminds me of all those internet rumors that spread around after the tank accident.  On message boards, some Koreans claimed that they were KATUSAS who had overheard the GIs gloating over the girls' deaths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>starz_lie wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>my boyfriend is in the same unit in korea as the guy that raped this women and according to him all the accusations are true </p>
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<p>Was your boyfriend there at the scene?  Did he witness it?  Your hearsay reminds me of all those internet rumors that spread around after the tank accident.  On message boards, some Koreans claimed that they were KATUSAS who had overheard the GIs gloating over the girls&#8217; deaths.</p>
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		<title>By: starz_lie</title>
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		<dc:creator>starz_lie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my boyfriend is in the same unit in korea as the guy that raped this women and according to him all the accusations are true</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my boyfriend is in the same unit in korea as the guy that raped this women and according to him all the accusations are true</p>
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		<title>By: usinkorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/01/16/i-dont-remember-but-im-sorry-us-soldier-accused-of-rape/#comment-63839</link>
		<dc:creator>usinkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;At any rate, this ought to be interesting, because it is the first soldier handled under the new SOFA agreement.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don't think that one is true.  When was the last time the SOFA was revised concerning crimes?  The last I remember was 2002-2003 or so, and there have been plenty of crimes handled under that revision.

I would also question what you mean by it.  The latest revision didn't do much to change the basic flow of these cases.  It specified, if I remember correctly, that the Korean authorities could gain custody of suspects before trial.  Koreans and others can debate whether that is a major change or not.  The out come since the changes have been exactly the same as it was before:  100% GI conviction rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>At any rate, this ought to be interesting, because it is the first soldier handled under the new SOFA agreement.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that one is true.  When was the last time the SOFA was revised concerning crimes?  The last I remember was 2002-2003 or so, and there have been plenty of crimes handled under that revision.</p>
<p>I would also question what you mean by it.  The latest revision didn&#8217;t do much to change the basic flow of these cases.  It specified, if I remember correctly, that the Korean authorities could gain custody of suspects before trial.  Koreans and others can debate whether that is a major change or not.  The out come since the changes have been exactly the same as it was before:  100% GI conviction rate.</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
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		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 07:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bipolar Mindscrew,

You hit on the good point and a possible solution to this dilemma.

USFK should do some "wag the dog" or "spin" and bring the fiancee to Korea.  Give her some acting lesson and a movie director can accompany her.

I can just see it now.  She kneels before the halmony and say,"please forgive my fiancee.  You know how men become dogs when they get drunk." And, the halmony says,"Yeah, I know.  My ex beat me when he got drunk as did my father.  OK, I forgive him". 

And, Korean public eats it up.  Even a movie may be made.  A fiancee saving her man, forgiving his erratic ways, while "A Good-hearted Woman in love with a Two-timing man" playing in the background. 

It may even sell in the States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bipolar Mindscrew,</p>
<p>You hit on the good point and a possible solution to this dilemma.</p>
<p>USFK should do some &#8220;wag the dog&#8221; or &#8220;spin&#8221; and bring the fiancee to Korea.  Give her some acting lesson and a movie director can accompany her.</p>
<p>I can just see it now.  She kneels before the halmony and say,&#8221;please forgive my fiancee.  You know how men become dogs when they get drunk.&#8221; And, the halmony says,&#8221;Yeah, I know.  My ex beat me when he got drunk as did my father.  OK, I forgive him&#8221;. </p>
<p>And, Korean public eats it up.  Even a movie may be made.  A fiancee saving her man, forgiving his erratic ways, while &#8220;A Good-hearted Woman in love with a Two-timing man&#8221; playing in the background. </p>
<p>It may even sell in the States.</p>
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		<title>By: Sperwer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sperwer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 06:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If so, then the concern of the locals is quite understandable.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Are you saying theirs are not only small but flaccid as well.  In VN, the Blue Dragons liked to say ours were longer, but theirs were harder; but I guess the truth will out.  Thanks for verifying what Korean scientists have been saying about the longterm effect of so much tofu in the Korean diet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If so, then the concern of the locals is quite understandable.</p></blockquote>
<p>Are you saying theirs are not only small but flaccid as well.  In VN, the Blue Dragons liked to say ours were longer, but theirs were harder; but I guess the truth will out.  Thanks for verifying what Korean scientists have been saying about the longterm effect of so much tofu in the Korean diet.</p>
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		<title>By: railwaycharm</title>
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		<dc:creator>railwaycharm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 06:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why? Where you constantly getting a woody pecker in there?

I never imagined I’d be saying this, and my imagination is good and highly active, but — a kudo for you bluejives. Good comment… 

It was clever however; I am surprised the arch-English teachers (zealots) did not jump all over it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why? Where you constantly getting a woody pecker in there?</p>
<p>I never imagined I’d be saying this, and my imagination is good and highly active, but — a kudo for you bluejives. Good comment… </p>
<p>It was clever however; I am surprised the arch-English teachers (zealots) did not jump all over it!</p>
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