That’s cold

Let it not be said that ROK Special Forces lack toughness.

11 Comments

  1. SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted January 10, 2007 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    I’m hardly impressed. What they are doing is nothing but a carnival trick, a lot like walking on hot coals. The temperature of snow is only 0C and it acts as an insulator from the cold (and it couldn’t be that cold since we’re in South Korea). On top of that, the snow gives off heat as the sun reflects off it.

  2. Posted January 10, 2007 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

    I’m hardly impressed. What they are doing is nothing but a carnival trick, a lot like walking on hot coals.

    They might be.

    Have you been to Hwangbyung San, Yeon-Gok, GangwondDo (not even go further into Chulwon, Injae or Wondtong area where military bases located) and even bit off to this area around this time? It feels like -20 ~ -40 Celsius. I been there and its damn freezing cold even if snow gives off reflected heat on fine sunny day.

  3. SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted January 10, 2007 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    You must be in Vancouver if you think Gangwon-do is cold. I’ve lived in Gangwon-do, and it never was as cold as in my part of Canada, where it doesn’t feel like -20C to -40C, but just is -20C to -40C (and worse if you consider the windchill).

  4. Posted January 10, 2007 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    As a Carolina boy, I am impressed.

    What do the Norks think when they see something like that? The first thing that came to my mind was “how many calories are they burning doing that mess?” For that reason alone it is fine propoganda.

  5. R. Elgin your flag
    Posted January 10, 2007 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    Yes, that is good but are they effective killers?

  6. Posted January 10, 2007 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    Yes, that is good but are they effective killers?

    The ROKMC Blue Dragons were in VN, but then most of them were Korean War orphans who had been basically raised by the State as soldiers Spartan-style.

  7. SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted January 11, 2007 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    What you also need to consider is that the picture only shows one split second.

  8. Zonath your flag
    Posted January 11, 2007 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    Impressive, but I like the Mongolian girls from a few posts back a heck of a lot better. :)

  9. Grumpy your flag
    Posted January 12, 2007 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    Robert,

    No photos of topless Mongolian girls frolicking in the snow?

    BTW, I’ve worked with them before and they are as hard a woodpecker lips. But like most of the ROK forces, they are only as good as the senior leaders who lead them and place them in harms way.

    If you think the US in Iraq is hobbled by the politicians who tell the well trained and good intentioned commanders what to do, how effective do you think the ROK commanders are?

  10. MrChips your flag
    Posted January 13, 2007 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    I would suggest that the difference between the physical attributes of the ROK special forces and their army counterparts is as stark as the difference in the quality of their leaders. I’ve only had one occassion to witness their work in action and it came on a trip to Pohang, actually, where I was supposed to act as an observer for a series of marine air drops. While there, a marine officer whom I had worked with at UNCMAC a year before suggested we go up country and watch the SOF guys train at their dive course. The manner in which they trained reminded me of only one thing: watching DEVGRU (old seal team six) train back at Damneck, VA. There was the same intensity and scrutiny by the officers in charge that one could expect from an elite fighting force. Those officers are there because they want to be there as opposed to merely rising in rank ordering people around. They are different, they appear stolid on the outside yet reveal a tremendous grasp of the reality of the job and its implications and, in contrast to the leaders of the conscript forces, a hard but passionate concern for the welfare of their troops.

    I generally find Korea “interesting,” more so for its history than its current cultural trends, and you can certainly find some tremendous examples of leadership and integrity among army officers, but in my experience only in onesies and twosies. The ROK SOF forces have formulated a process that breeds out arrogance through a humbling process and serves to create character. They are a different breed and I would hold them up over any South or North Korean unit of 10X the size. Just my own observations, though…

  11. Sonagi your flag
    Posted January 13, 2007 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    Thanks for the topless beefcake frolicking in the snow :)

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