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	<title>Comments on: Ban, learning the ropes at the UN, makes a boo boo</title>
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		<title>By: Nappunsaram</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/01/03/ban-learning-the-ropes-at-the-un-makes-a-boo-boo/#comment-61907</link>
		<dc:creator>Nappunsaram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 12:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonagi, see comment 78 to answer your UN question</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonagi, see comment 78 to answer your UN question</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/01/03/ban-learning-the-ropes-at-the-un-makes-a-boo-boo/#comment-61787</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 22:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back to the original topic, how is that the UN has condemned the death penalty when it remains legal in a majority of member states, and two Security Council members actively carry out the death penalty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to the original topic, how is that the UN has condemned the death penalty when it remains legal in a majority of member states, and two Security Council members actively carry out the death penalty?</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/01/03/ban-learning-the-ropes-at-the-un-makes-a-boo-boo/#comment-61775</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richardson wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;People these days aren’t used to being told something is morally wrong, since most often society tells them if it’s ok with them, it’s ok ~ moral relativism. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

The problem with teaching morality is that not everyone shares the same moral values.  The law is the law, but morality is individual.  We must respect the law, but we are free to develop our own moral values, which may change through our life experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richardson wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>People these days aren’t used to being told something is morally wrong, since most often society tells them if it’s ok with them, it’s ok ~ moral relativism. </p></blockquote>
<p>The problem with teaching morality is that not everyone shares the same moral values.  The law is the law, but morality is individual.  We must respect the law, but we are free to develop our own moral values, which may change through our life experiences.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/01/03/ban-learning-the-ropes-at-the-un-makes-a-boo-boo/#comment-61769</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendon wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;We’re not really going to take our moral guidance from Webster’s Dictionary, are we? 

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, but if we are going to use the same terms, we had better agree on what they mean.  The first order of business is the rectification of names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendon wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>We’re not really going to take our moral guidance from Webster’s Dictionary, are we? </p>
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<p>No, but if we are going to use the same terms, we had better agree on what they mean.  The first order of business is the rectification of names.</p>
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		<title>By: Richardson</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/01/03/ban-learning-the-ropes-at-the-un-makes-a-boo-boo/#comment-61753</link>
		<dc:creator>Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 15:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I can’t tell if you’re pulling my leg or are really insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I can’t tell if you’re pulling my leg or are really insane.</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/01/03/ban-learning-the-ropes-at-the-un-makes-a-boo-boo/#comment-61752</link>
		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 15:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4) Drugs:  Korean police just lock'em up.  Even Marijuana smokers. Heavy, heavy sentences for dealers, 10 years or more. 

5) AIDs: Lock'em up.  No more spreading.

Isn't this a better society?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4) Drugs:  Korean police just lock&#8217;em up.  Even Marijuana smokers. Heavy, heavy sentences for dealers, 10 years or more. </p>
<p>5) AIDs: Lock&#8217;em up.  No more spreading.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t this a better society?</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/01/03/ban-learning-the-ropes-at-the-un-makes-a-boo-boo/#comment-61751</link>
		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 15:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is so funny that in America and even in Canada, a highschool student can bring his gun into a school and shoot teachers and students.  Or, even bomb the whole school.

In a modern and so-called sophisticated and advanced society.  Yet, these savaged acts happen.  WTF!

In Korea, if that type of thing happens, the whole country will be mad.  Mad as mad cows.  Korean people will kill not only the person, but his parents, his co-conspirators and anyone who sold the weapon.  

They will make sure that these kinds of thing will never, never happen again.  They will stop selling any gun, not even BB Guns.  

Yet, in America, nothing.  You tell me, which country is more advanced?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is so funny that in America and even in Canada, a highschool student can bring his gun into a school and shoot teachers and students.  Or, even bomb the whole school.</p>
<p>In a modern and so-called sophisticated and advanced society.  Yet, these savaged acts happen.  WTF!</p>
<p>In Korea, if that type of thing happens, the whole country will be mad.  Mad as mad cows.  Korean people will kill not only the person, but his parents, his co-conspirators and anyone who sold the weapon.  </p>
<p>They will make sure that these kinds of thing will never, never happen again.  They will stop selling any gun, not even BB Guns.  </p>
<p>Yet, in America, nothing.  You tell me, which country is more advanced?</p>
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		<title>By: Nappunsaram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nappunsaram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 15:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever people talk about the UN, they say either a) I don't want someone else telling me what to do, or b) hey, that guy's not listening to what we at the UN said.  By its very nature, the UN does not have the ability to enforce anything because nobody wanted to surrender any sovreignty to a higher power.  The UN is the basis of modern international law, but all international law has to be signed by member states in order for it to enforced.  North Korea is no longer bound by the Nuclear Non-proliferation treaty because it withdrew its signature.  The US withdrew its signature from the International Criminal Court and never signed the Kyoto Protocol, and there's not necessarily anything wrong with that.

  Let Ban say whatever he wants and the Italians say or do whatever they want.  Even if they did pass something like a ban on capital punishment in the UN, all a country would have to do is NOT sign whatever legislation they passed, and they don't have to go along with it.  The US went to Iraq without a green light from the UN, didn't they?  I haven't seen Bush extradited for "crimes against peace" yet.  

  The UN is a great idea, but because everybody's afraid of everybody else having power over them, the UN cannot do anything except administer humanitarian aid (if member states contribute) and shake scolding fingers at places like Sudan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever people talk about the UN, they say either a) I don&#8217;t want someone else telling me what to do, or b) hey, that guy&#8217;s not listening to what we at the UN said.  By its very nature, the UN does not have the ability to enforce anything because nobody wanted to surrender any sovreignty to a higher power.  The UN is the basis of modern international law, but all international law has to be signed by member states in order for it to enforced.  North Korea is no longer bound by the Nuclear Non-proliferation treaty because it withdrew its signature.  The US withdrew its signature from the International Criminal Court and never signed the Kyoto Protocol, and there&#8217;s not necessarily anything wrong with that.</p>
<p>  Let Ban say whatever he wants and the Italians say or do whatever they want.  Even if they did pass something like a ban on capital punishment in the UN, all a country would have to do is NOT sign whatever legislation they passed, and they don&#8217;t have to go along with it.  The US went to Iraq without a green light from the UN, didn&#8217;t they?  I haven&#8217;t seen Bush extradited for &#8220;crimes against peace&#8221; yet.  </p>
<p>  The UN is a great idea, but because everybody&#8217;s afraid of everybody else having power over them, the UN cannot do anything except administer humanitarian aid (if member states contribute) and shake scolding fingers at places like Sudan.</p>
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		<title>By: Richardson</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/01/03/ban-learning-the-ropes-at-the-un-makes-a-boo-boo/#comment-61749</link>
		<dc:creator>Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 15:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baduk,
That was 100 percent sarcasm, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baduk,<br />
That was 100 percent sarcasm, right?</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/01/03/ban-learning-the-ropes-at-the-un-makes-a-boo-boo/#comment-61747</link>
		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 15:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Korean society is more advanced than American society in
 
1)Death penalty: Kill the bad sob who has done the deed.  Three judges.  No stupid jurors who get manipulated.  Sometimes, the police tortures the suspect(the old school) and they kill an innocent man.  So what?  90% of time, they are right.  It is ridiculous to let 9 bad sobs go to save one. Just kill these rotten socio-misfits.

2)Abortion:  Free to choose by women.  However, Korean society is into prevention.  Most kids are controlled by parents, especially girls.  No dating till they graduate from college.  No sex they get married.  After one or two kids, men get fixed up.  No need for abortion. Very christian.  Very correct.

3) Gun: No guns.  No easy killings.  Have to use knife or other blunt instruments.  However, no street cleaning with submachine guns.  Very ideal.  Very reasonable.  Very sophisticated.

Isn't Korean society better than the US?  I think the US should learn from Korea and follow these Korean advancements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Korean society is more advanced than American society in</p>
<p>1)Death penalty: Kill the bad sob who has done the deed.  Three judges.  No stupid jurors who get manipulated.  Sometimes, the police tortures the suspect(the old school) and they kill an innocent man.  So what?  90% of time, they are right.  It is ridiculous to let 9 bad sobs go to save one. Just kill these rotten socio-misfits.</p>
<p>2)Abortion:  Free to choose by women.  However, Korean society is into prevention.  Most kids are controlled by parents, especially girls.  No dating till they graduate from college.  No sex they get married.  After one or two kids, men get fixed up.  No need for abortion. Very christian.  Very correct.</p>
<p>3) Gun: No guns.  No easy killings.  Have to use knife or other blunt instruments.  However, no street cleaning with submachine guns.  Very ideal.  Very reasonable.  Very sophisticated.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t Korean society better than the US?  I think the US should learn from Korea and follow these Korean advancements.</p>
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