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	<title>Comments on: New York Times on the joy of Korean saunas</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wjk, 검은 머리 외국인</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/29/new-york-times-on-the-joy-of-korean-saunas/#comment-138912</link>
		<dc:creator>wjk, 검은 머리 외국인</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 01:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want an opinion gauge on whether or not Kim Ki Duk is a pervert or if he's showing a real side of South Korea.

Also, is there any of this linkable back to Japan?

Hmm...

Discuss, discuss...if you wish.

westerners seem to like his film. 

is it art?  But, all his films seem like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want an opinion gauge on whether or not Kim Ki Duk is a pervert or if he&#8217;s showing a real side of South Korea.</p>
<p>Also, is there any of this linkable back to Japan?</p>
<p>Hmm&#8230;</p>
<p>Discuss, discuss&#8230;if you wish.</p>
<p>westerners seem to like his film. </p>
<p>is it art?  But, all his films seem like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/29/new-york-times-on-the-joy-of-korean-saunas/#comment-138904</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 01:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheesh, another Marmot's thread turned into middle school bathroom graffiti.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheesh, another Marmot&#8217;s thread turned into middle school bathroom graffiti.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimjilbang mania invades D.C., sweeps away all before it &#124; The Marmot's Hole</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/29/new-york-times-on-the-joy-of-korean-saunas/#comment-138896</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimjilbang mania invades D.C., sweeps away all before it &#124; The Marmot's Hole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] were already jimjilbangs in the greater New York City area, but the Post reports that this is the first around [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] were already jimjilbangs in the greater New York City area, but the Post reports that this is the first around [...]</p>
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		<title>By: virtual wonderer</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/29/new-york-times-on-the-joy-of-korean-saunas/#comment-60757</link>
		<dc:creator>virtual wonderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sperwer,

hanshimhan saramah, maybe you are a regular reader of Screw and have been to certain bathhouses that offers something other than just baths around K-town and fort lee for a loooong time, but jjimjilbang (legitimitate business) has NOT been around anywhere as long as room salons.  And I would think you know that there is difference in Mokyongtang and Jjimjilbang.

And I certainly haven't seen non-koreans going into jjimjilbang until recently.

Well, I guess NYT isn't fair and balanced like Screw.  If my head is stuck up my ass, it is only to escape from the putrid stench that comes from your mouth and fingers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sperwer,</p>
<p>hanshimhan saramah, maybe you are a regular reader of Screw and have been to certain bathhouses that offers something other than just baths around K-town and fort lee for a loooong time, but jjimjilbang (legitimitate business) has NOT been around anywhere as long as room salons.  And I would think you know that there is difference in Mokyongtang and Jjimjilbang.</p>
<p>And I certainly haven&#8217;t seen non-koreans going into jjimjilbang until recently.</p>
<p>Well, I guess NYT isn&#8217;t fair and balanced like Screw.  If my head is stuck up my ass, it is only to escape from the putrid stench that comes from your mouth and fingers.</p>
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		<title>By: hardyandtiny</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/29/new-york-times-on-the-joy-of-korean-saunas/#comment-60666</link>
		<dc:creator>hardyandtiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 05:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smart furniture!  Don't sit in a brick oven when you have a hangover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smart furniture!  Don&#8217;t sit in a brick oven when you have a hangover.</p>
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		<title>By: railwaycharm</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/29/new-york-times-on-the-joy-of-korean-saunas/#comment-60664</link>
		<dc:creator>railwaycharm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 02:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pawikirogi:

Oh Magoo, you’ve done it again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pawikirogi:</p>
<p>Oh Magoo, you’ve done it again!</p>
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		<title>By: pawikirogi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/29/new-york-times-on-the-joy-of-korean-saunas/#comment-60659</link>
		<dc:creator>pawikirogi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'I HATE KOREANS! I HATE THEM! I HATE THEM! I HATE THEM*!' SPERWER

yes, you certainly do. 

* 'except for my wife and half korean children.' sperwer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;I HATE KOREANS! I HATE THEM! I HATE THEM! I HATE THEM*!&#8217; SPERWER</p>
<p>yes, you certainly do. </p>
<p>* &#8216;except for my wife and half korean children.&#8217; sperwer</p>
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		<title>By: Sperwer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sperwer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 02:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I never thought the Kohos belonged in the Metropolitan Section either; Lifestyle or "Arts and Leisure" always seemed more in order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I never thought the Kohos belonged in the Metropolitan Section either; Lifestyle or &#8220;Arts and Leisure&#8221; always seemed more in order.</p>
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		<title>By: jd</title>
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		<dc:creator>jd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 02:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Carr,

I think you should have started your post with, "Hey, goofs, (but not jd because he already pointed out in an earlier post what I'm about to)...

Also, the difference between news and features is not what you're suggesting. the real difference is length and time. Features tend to be longer while news articles tends to be shorter. Also, news is printed right away (because it is related to a specific event), while features can be printed within a given time period (because they are related to a general trend).

Usually, editors will hold onto a feature until a good news item comes along that they can use as a "peg." So you'll see a news article about a group of drunk teenagers getting killed in a car accident and on the next page you'll see a feature on, let's say, MADD.

I think you want to point out the difference between hard and soft news.

I doubt newspapers want to mix it up and therefore include stories about travel. The travel section, as well as the auto section, are traditionally the big money makers. It's not about "mixing it up."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Carr,</p>
<p>I think you should have started your post with, &#8220;Hey, goofs, (but not jd because he already pointed out in an earlier post what I&#8217;m about to)&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, the difference between news and features is not what you&#8217;re suggesting. the real difference is length and time. Features tend to be longer while news articles tends to be shorter. Also, news is printed right away (because it is related to a specific event), while features can be printed within a given time period (because they are related to a general trend).</p>
<p>Usually, editors will hold onto a feature until a good news item comes along that they can use as a &#8220;peg.&#8221; So you&#8217;ll see a news article about a group of drunk teenagers getting killed in a car accident and on the next page you&#8217;ll see a feature on, let&#8217;s say, MADD.</p>
<p>I think you want to point out the difference between hard and soft news.</p>
<p>I doubt newspapers want to mix it up and therefore include stories about travel. The travel section, as well as the auto section, are traditionally the big money makers. It&#8217;s not about &#8220;mixing it up.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brendon Carr</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/29/new-york-times-on-the-joy-of-korean-saunas/#comment-60620</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 01:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, goofs, I don't suppose you've heard of the difference between "news" and "features" reporting. Newspapers try to mix it up from time to time so it's not all crime and scandal -- that's why we get articles on literature and travel, and human-interest stories as well. Human trafficking and prostitution generally fall under "news", so the features reporter wouldn't ordinarily be expected to focus on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, goofs, I don&#8217;t suppose you&#8217;ve heard of the difference between &#8220;news&#8221; and &#8220;features&#8221; reporting. Newspapers try to mix it up from time to time so it&#8217;s not all crime and scandal &#8212; that&#8217;s why we get articles on literature and travel, and human-interest stories as well. Human trafficking and prostitution generally fall under &#8220;news&#8221;, so the features reporter wouldn&#8217;t ordinarily be expected to focus on that.</p>
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