Comments on: Nationalism, Politics and the Japanese http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/17/nationalism-politics-and-the-japanese/ Korea... in Blog Format Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:15:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: snow http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/17/nationalism-politics-and-the-japanese/#comment-59636 snow Fri, 22 Dec 2006 03:21:04 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/17/nationalism-politics-and-the-japanese/#comment-59636 wjk, I don't know if you're responding to me, but I never said that it was in the US' interest for Japan to get nukes. I believe it would be in Japan's interests to get nukes, just as it would be in SK's interests to get nukes and Taiwan's as well. That certainly doesn't mean it's in the best interests of others, the region or the US. I'm just thinking in terms of nationalist policies. If Canada weren't so well protected by the US, I would have no problem with us getting our own nukes. wjk, I don’t know if you’re responding to me, but I never said that it was in the US’ interest for Japan to get nukes. I believe it would be in Japan’s interests to get nukes, just as it would be in SK’s interests to get nukes and Taiwan’s as well. That certainly doesn’t mean it’s in the best interests of others, the region or the US. I’m just thinking in terms of nationalist policies. If Canada weren’t so well protected by the US, I would have no problem with us getting our own nukes.

]]> By: wjk http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/17/nationalism-politics-and-the-japanese/#comment-59635 wjk Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:59:45 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/17/nationalism-politics-and-the-japanese/#comment-59635 it's not even in the interest of US for Japan to get nukes. The more players with nukes on the table, the more chance that one gets fired. Ultimately, US interests are not Japanese interests and not Korean interests. If there is any dispute down the line, more push buttons, more chance of trouble. Japan getting nukes in defense violates the very idea that the Nuclear Non Proliferation treaty or the idea of it works among civilized democracies. DC gave word. It will protect Japan. That should be enough, and it says DC will counter any North Korean nuke attempts by nuking North Korea or China. There is no reason to give Japan or South Korea the ability to do that themselves or the remote chance of firing one to US or targets the US do not approve of, say Beijing. While Pyong Yang may become an acceptable target. it’s not even in the interest of US for Japan to get nukes. The more players with nukes on the table, the more chance that one gets fired.

Ultimately, US interests are not Japanese interests and not Korean interests.

If there is any dispute down the line, more push buttons, more chance of trouble. Japan getting nukes in defense violates the very idea that the Nuclear Non Proliferation treaty or the idea of it works among civilized democracies. DC gave word. It will protect Japan. That should be enough, and it says DC will counter any North Korean nuke attempts by nuking North Korea or China. There is no reason to give Japan or South Korea the ability to do that themselves or the remote chance of firing one to US or targets the US do not approve of, say Beijing. While Pyong Yang may become an acceptable target.

]]> By: wjk http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/17/nationalism-politics-and-the-japanese/#comment-59634 wjk Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:55:34 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/17/nationalism-politics-and-the-japanese/#comment-59634 Japan can't get nukes. Condi said the US would protect Japan. Meaning with nukes. Regardless of what everyone says(they already built up a lot in the 80's), Japan is planning to add on to their military after Kim Jong Il's blast. This may have happenned anyway to counter China. So, I hold on to the idea that Japan needed an excuse to arm up and rewrite their restrictive constitution, and that was done by angering China and the two Koreas. Japan is surprised at how much South Koreans don't like them? Koizumi holds all the blame there. What did Koizumi accomplish by breaking from his predecessors? It would have been a total disaster, if it wasn't for the Iraq war, which allowed him to get tighter with Washington DC. Japan can’t get nukes. Condi said the US would protect Japan. Meaning with nukes. Regardless of what everyone says(they already built up a lot in the 80’s), Japan is planning to add on to their military after Kim Jong Il’s blast. This may have happenned anyway to counter China.

So, I hold on to the idea that Japan needed an excuse to arm up and rewrite their restrictive constitution, and that was done by angering China and the two Koreas.

Japan is surprised at how much South Koreans don’t like them? Koizumi holds all the blame there. What did Koizumi accomplish by breaking from his predecessors? It would have been a total disaster, if it wasn’t for the Iraq war, which allowed him to get tighter with Washington DC.

]]> By: snow http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/17/nationalism-politics-and-the-japanese/#comment-59411 snow Tue, 19 Dec 2006 06:36:48 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/17/nationalism-politics-and-the-japanese/#comment-59411 In Japan's own self-interest, they should re-arm, perhaps with nukes (unless the US can persuade them that a better way exists). The same with any country, including China and South Korea. They better be acting in their own best interests or the politicians should be turfed out (I know not possible in China's case and soon to happen in the case of the Roh-nothings in SK). Of course the Japanese have to weigh the reactions of their neighbors and others, but taking care of your own protection should be paramount. No self-respecting nation gives over the complete responsibility for their own defense to another nation, no matter how friendly. In Japan’s own self-interest, they should re-arm, perhaps with nukes (unless the US can persuade them that a better way exists). The same with any country, including China and South Korea. They better be acting in their own best interests or the politicians should be turfed out (I know not possible in China’s case and soon to happen in the case of the Roh-nothings in SK). Of course the Japanese have to weigh the reactions of their neighbors and others, but taking care of your own protection should be paramount. No self-respecting nation gives over the complete responsibility for their own defense to another nation, no matter how friendly.

]]> By: pawikirogi http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/17/nationalism-politics-and-the-japanese/#comment-59323 pawikirogi Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:20:14 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/17/nationalism-politics-and-the-japanese/#comment-59323 ain't it interesting? just a couple weeks ago, the expat was telling the koreans how they needed to accept the truth with regards to a 4 part series on korean prostitution that appeard in the sf chronicle. no questions about the authors' motives there, but oh my god, find a reporter who tells the truth about japan, and you get all sorts of questions about his integrity. not only that, they'll qustion his race in their attempt to dismiss what he writes for a respected newspaper. i can't find any proof that mr onishi is anything but japanese in his ancestry. whether or not he addresses accusations drummed up by the right wing in japan is really neither here nor there*; his race is only an issue for bigots who force 'the truth' on others while doing everything to avoid the truth for themsleves and their pet peoples. 'so it's probably not a good idea to take what he writes at face value.' darrin in japan is it a good idea to take what you write at face value? it's obvious you despise koreans. does that mean you can't be objective when it comes to koreans? that's what i thought, darrin. that's what i thought. 'is neither here nor there' = 'is not important or germaine to the issue.' for those who don't understand ain’t it interesting? just a couple weeks ago, the expat was telling the koreans how they needed to accept the truth with regards to a 4 part series on korean prostitution that appeard in the sf chronicle. no questions about the authors’ motives there, but oh my god, find a reporter who tells the truth about japan, and you get all sorts of questions about his integrity. not only that, they’ll qustion his race in their attempt to dismiss what he writes for a respected newspaper. i can’t find any proof that mr onishi is anything but japanese in his ancestry. whether or not he addresses accusations drummed up by the right wing in japan is really neither here nor there*; his race is only an issue for bigots who force ‘the truth’ on others while doing everything to avoid the truth for themsleves and their pet peoples.

’so it’s probably not a good idea to take what he writes at face value.’ darrin in japan

is it a good idea to take what you write at face value? it’s obvious you despise koreans. does that mean you can’t be objective when it comes to koreans? that’s what i thought, darrin. that’s what i thought.

‘is neither here nor there’ = ‘is not important or germaine to the issue.’ for those who don’t understand

]]> By: Kenkenoer http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/17/nationalism-politics-and-the-japanese/#comment-59309 Kenkenoer Mon, 18 Dec 2006 07:35:37 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/17/nationalism-politics-and-the-japanese/#comment-59309 What kind of fellow said abuse about his nation in newspaper of a foreign country. However I except resistant in autocratic nation. Japan is not a autocratic nation. Morimitsu Onishi must be a Korean Japanese or a anti-Japanese Japanese. Fellow who dislikes his nation is bud guy without exception. Article of Onishi is anti-Japanese propaganda. What kind of fellow said abuse about his nation in newspaper of a foreign country. However I except resistant in autocratic nation. Japan is not a autocratic nation.
Morimitsu Onishi must be a Korean Japanese or a anti-Japanese Japanese. Fellow who dislikes his nation is bud guy without exception. Article of Onishi is anti-Japanese propaganda.

]]> By: shakuhachi http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/17/nationalism-politics-and-the-japanese/#comment-59281 shakuhachi Mon, 18 Dec 2006 04:28:30 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/17/nationalism-politics-and-the-japanese/#comment-59281 <blockquote>as i recall reading somewhere, normitsu is a naturalized korean. if anyone can find his bio, it’d be much appreciated.</blockquote> Onishi refuses to comment on that, fueling speculation.

as i recall reading somewhere, normitsu is a naturalized korean. if anyone can find his bio, it’d be much appreciated.

Onishi refuses to comment on that, fueling speculation.

]]> By: judge judy http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/17/nationalism-politics-and-the-japanese/#comment-59274 judge judy Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:55:32 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/17/nationalism-politics-and-the-japanese/#comment-59274 korean who was naturalized japanese to be precise. korean who was naturalized japanese to be precise.

]]> By: judge judy http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/17/nationalism-politics-and-the-japanese/#comment-59273 judge judy Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:53:59 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/17/nationalism-politics-and-the-japanese/#comment-59273 as i recall reading somewhere, normitsu is a naturalized korean. if anyone can find his bio, it'd be much appreciated. as i recall reading somewhere, normitsu is a naturalized korean. if anyone can find his bio, it’d be much appreciated.

]]> By: Darin http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/17/nationalism-politics-and-the-japanese/#comment-59261 Darin Mon, 18 Dec 2006 02:25:17 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/17/nationalism-politics-and-the-japanese/#comment-59261 Don't forget who the author of this article. Normitsu frequently writes "<a href="http://freekorea.us/?p=6180" rel="nofollow">unconditional appeasement of a regime</a> [Roh]", so it's probably not a good idea to take anything he says for face value. If Roh's plan calls for praise of North Korea, then praise of North Korea is what Norrimitsu will write. If Roh's plan calls for Japan bashing, then Japan bashing is what Norimitsu will write. It's not so easy to say that the Chinese and North Koreans are falling into the trap the Japanese have set to use as an excuse to remilitarize. The bottom line is the appropriate response to Kim^2 building nukes and threatening to turn your backyard into a 'sea of fire' is to be sure you're able to prevent that. The only way you can make claims such as Chinese and North Koreans are falling into the trap the Japanese have set to use as an excuse to remilitarize, is if you believe that someone with an itchy trigger finger and a nuke pointed at you 24/7 is not a threat. And frankly if you believe that, you're an idiot and people shouldn't even waste their time trying to talk to you. Don’t forget who the author of this article. Normitsu frequently writes “unconditional appeasement of a regime [Roh]“, so it’s probably not a good idea to take anything he says for face value. If Roh’s plan calls for praise of North Korea, then praise of North Korea is what Norrimitsu will write. If Roh’s plan calls for Japan bashing, then Japan bashing is what Norimitsu will write.

It’s not so easy to say that the Chinese and North Koreans are falling into the trap the Japanese have set to use as an excuse to remilitarize. The bottom line is the appropriate response to Kim^2 building nukes and threatening to turn your backyard into a ’sea of fire’ is to be sure you’re able to prevent that. The only way you can make claims such as Chinese and North Koreans are falling into the trap the Japanese have set to use as an excuse to remilitarize, is if you believe that someone with an itchy trigger finger and a nuke pointed at you 24/7 is not a threat. And frankly if you believe that, you’re an idiot and people shouldn’t even waste their time trying to talk to you.

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