Comments on: No need to get dragged around by America on FTA: Uri Party chief http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/08/no-need-to-get-dragged-around-by-america-on-fta-uri-party-chief/ Korea... in Blog Format Fri, 5 Sep 2008 08:44:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: yankabroad http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/08/no-need-to-get-dragged-around-by-america-on-fta-uri-party-chief/#comment-58525 yankabroad Sun, 10 Dec 2006 16:00:00 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/08/no-need-to-get-dragged-around-by-america-on-fta-uri-party-chief/#comment-58525 South Korea: Spread your ass cheeks wide and rub your anus with cham girreum. The big Migook Kochoo Ajeoshi is coming to get you. There's no way you can avoid him. He will fuck you just like he has everyone else. Eeuungh. Eeuungh. Ajoshi. It's too big. It hurts!!!!!!!!!! South Korea: Spread your ass cheeks wide and rub your anus with cham girreum. The big Migook Kochoo Ajeoshi is coming to get you.

There’s no way you can avoid him. He will fuck you just like he has everyone else.

Eeuungh.

Eeuungh.

Ajoshi. It’s too big. It hurts!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Hugh http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/08/no-need-to-get-dragged-around-by-america-on-fta-uri-party-chief/#comment-58518 Hugh Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:28:45 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/08/no-need-to-get-dragged-around-by-america-on-fta-uri-party-chief/#comment-58518 The Noh government/Uri party never intended for their to be free trade, and there never will be, so it is kind of funny to see everyone so upset and puffing that "those Koreans will be sorry, boy, when we scuttle these talks". The FTA negotiations are designed to pointlessly drag on and motivate the Uri base ahead of the upcoming presidential elections. Agit-prop civic groups will howl the mantras of the Korean cult of victimhood and actually get an issue to drink soju and beat the riot police on, and otherwise-doomed Uri candidates like Kim Geuntae and Chung Dongyoung will get newspaper space and nods of agreement with the average Mr. Choi as they denounce America's bullying and one-sided blah blah blah... Think about it - why would Roh and the Uri's even propose this talk (which they did, although somehow they have convinced Koreans that America initiated FTA)? Is anyone - anyone? - out there working to promote support for it? It's designed to fail, and give Kim GeunTae huffing material till it does... The Noh government/Uri party never intended for their to be free trade, and there never will be, so it is kind of funny to see everyone so upset and puffing that “those Koreans will be sorry, boy, when we scuttle these talks”.

The FTA negotiations are designed to pointlessly drag on and motivate the Uri base ahead of the upcoming presidential elections. Agit-prop civic groups will howl the mantras of the Korean cult of victimhood and actually get an issue to drink soju and beat the riot police on, and otherwise-doomed Uri candidates like Kim Geuntae and Chung Dongyoung will get newspaper space and nods of agreement with the average Mr. Choi as they denounce America’s bullying and one-sided blah blah blah…

Think about it - why would Roh and the Uri’s even propose this talk (which they did, although somehow they have convinced Koreans that America initiated FTA)? Is anyone - anyone? - out there working to promote support for it?

It’s designed to fail, and give Kim GeunTae huffing material till it does…

]]> By: railwaycharm http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/08/no-need-to-get-dragged-around-by-america-on-fta-uri-party-chief/#comment-58494 railwaycharm Sun, 10 Dec 2006 01:02:01 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/08/no-need-to-get-dragged-around-by-america-on-fta-uri-party-chief/#comment-58494 Sorry for the grammar..... Sorry for the grammar…..

]]> By: railwaycharm http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/08/no-need-to-get-dragged-around-by-america-on-fta-uri-party-chief/#comment-58493 railwaycharm Sun, 10 Dec 2006 00:59:31 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/08/no-need-to-get-dragged-around-by-america-on-fta-uri-party-chief/#comment-58493 It's simple. Let's keep all of our rice and beef, and the ROK can keep all of their Hyundai's and Samsung products. We Americans are such bullies. When are we going to learn to stop subjugating these unfortunate people? Cindy She-man is right. We come into these places and force our American ways (winning) on such taciturn people. It’s time to atone for our sins. The U.S. needs to give Yongsan Garrison back, and I mean to its original splendor. We need to chip off the Imperial Stars off of the front of the buildings. Patching bullet holes is not enough; those after all are Korean buildings after all. I don’t know why I did not see this more clearly before. Thank you Cindy! It’s simple. Let’s keep all of our rice and beef, and the ROK can keep all of their Hyundai’s and Samsung products. We Americans are such bullies. When are we going to learn to stop subjugating these unfortunate people? Cindy She-man is right.

We come into these places and force our American ways (winning) on such taciturn people. It’s time to atone for our sins. The U.S. needs to give Yongsan Garrison back, and I mean to its original splendor. We need to chip off the Imperial Stars off of the front of the buildings. Patching bullet holes is not enough; those after all are Korean buildings after all.
I don’t know why I did not see this more clearly before. Thank you Cindy!

]]> By: timbo123 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/08/no-need-to-get-dragged-around-by-america-on-fta-uri-party-chief/#comment-58490 timbo123 Sun, 10 Dec 2006 00:20:36 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/08/no-need-to-get-dragged-around-by-america-on-fta-uri-party-chief/#comment-58490 While I would agree that Korea must start to feel confident enough in itself to allow more foreign products on to the market, I do really wonder if an FTA is the solution. As NAFTA has demonstrated, there are still other ways to tie up trade under an FTA (Just mention the words softwood lumber or durum wheat to a Canadian). FTA does not necesarily mean trade liberalization and more open markets. What it does mean is trade that is channeled into a market and thereby subject to the whim of the politicians in charge at a particular time. The NAFTA mechanism for trade dispute consistently believed in its multiple decisions in Canada's favor, that the United States duties were improper and should be paid back, this did not stop the duties from being charged until a recent agreement (outside of NAFTA I might add) was reached. Resulting in a sum that is much smaller than that paid. It would be more practical to work towards easier markets for individual items rather than a broad trade pact, which matches the Korea compartmentalised negotiation style while still creating a slow, steady move toward trade liberalization. The norkization of South Korea under the current jelly fish leadership has made people more resistant to a broad trade agreement. But I think they are more willing to be exposed to a greater selection of products which can be imported even under the current arrangement. Duties make them a bit more expensive, but still available. On a more personal side I can't help but feel that the US is trying to ram this down Korea's throat before the president's special trade powers run out. Free trade is a political mantra that is chanted by the US when they really want to talk politics. It would be better for Korea to slow down negotiations and complete the agreement with congress, If they complete it at all. While I would agree that Korea must start to feel confident enough in itself to allow more foreign products on to the market, I do really wonder if an FTA is the solution. As NAFTA has demonstrated, there are still other ways to tie up trade under an FTA (Just mention the words softwood lumber or durum wheat to a Canadian). FTA does not necesarily mean trade liberalization and more open markets. What it does mean is trade that is channeled into a market and thereby subject to the whim of the politicians in charge at a particular time. The NAFTA mechanism for trade dispute consistently believed in its multiple decisions in Canada’s favor, that the United States duties were improper and should be paid back, this did not stop the duties from being charged until a recent agreement (outside of NAFTA I might add) was reached. Resulting in a sum that is much smaller than that paid.
It would be more practical to work towards easier markets for individual items rather than a broad trade pact, which matches the Korea compartmentalised negotiation style while still creating a slow, steady move toward trade liberalization. The norkization of South Korea under the current jelly fish leadership has made people more resistant to a broad trade agreement. But I think they are more willing to be exposed to a greater selection of products which can be imported even under the current arrangement. Duties make them a bit more expensive, but still available.

On a more personal side I can’t help but feel that the US is trying to ram this down Korea’s throat before the president’s special trade powers run out. Free trade is a political mantra that is chanted by the US when they really want to talk politics. It would be better for Korea to slow down negotiations and complete the agreement with congress, If they complete it at all.

]]> By: ORblog http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/08/no-need-to-get-dragged-around-by-america-on-fta-uri-party-chief/#comment-58443 ORblog Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:08:40 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/08/no-need-to-get-dragged-around-by-america-on-fta-uri-party-chief/#comment-58443 <blockquote>Uri Party chief (at least for now) Kim Geun-tae wants us all to know that Seoul shouldn’t bend over for the Americans during now-stalled FTA talks.</blockquote> Yep, if Kim Geun-tae had his way, Seoul would bend over only for the Norks.

Uri Party chief (at least for now) Kim Geun-tae wants us all to know that Seoul shouldn’t bend over for the Americans during now-stalled FTA talks.

Yep, if Kim Geun-tae had his way, Seoul would bend over only for the Norks.

]]> By: yankabroad http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/08/no-need-to-get-dragged-around-by-america-on-fta-uri-party-chief/#comment-58438 yankabroad Fri, 08 Dec 2006 15:44:38 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/08/no-need-to-get-dragged-around-by-america-on-fta-uri-party-chief/#comment-58438 If stalled US-Korea FTA talks can keep me one semester ahead of the SHIT coming over the TV from America, then that's all I wish for. If stalled US-Korea FTA talks can keep me one semester ahead of the SHIT coming over the TV from America, then that’s all I wish for.

]]> By: estebanko http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/08/no-need-to-get-dragged-around-by-america-on-fta-uri-party-chief/#comment-58409 estebanko Fri, 08 Dec 2006 07:42:23 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/08/no-need-to-get-dragged-around-by-america-on-fta-uri-party-chief/#comment-58409 Mr. Coyner's article should be translated into korean so that more people can understand the TRUE long term effects of FTA. It's really for the good of the Korean economy. Really, sometimes I wonder about real motive behind Korean government constantly bringing up agriculture sector as a case against FTA. They care so much about protecting their agricultural sector but yet farming methods are still inefficient as centuries ago. Why don't they invest in R&D in agriculture like they did in technology sector? May be the real motive is to protect those Samsungs, LGs, SK Telecoms, from Sonys, Nokias, T-Mobiles.. If you care so much about your rice lands and the farmers, don't let places like Bulgyo and Igok whittle away. There are more than few things Korean government can learn from Israeli's agricultural sector. Korean government has told us that they object to FTA because they care so much about the farmers. Now it's time for them to walk the walk or be quite. Mr. Coyner’s article should be translated into korean so that more people can understand the TRUE long term effects of FTA. It’s really for the good of the Korean economy.

Really, sometimes I wonder about real motive behind Korean government constantly bringing up agriculture sector as a case against FTA. They care so much about protecting their agricultural sector but yet farming methods are still inefficient as centuries ago. Why don’t they invest in R&D in agriculture like they did in technology sector? May be the real motive is to protect those Samsungs, LGs, SK Telecoms, from Sonys, Nokias, T-Mobiles..

If you care so much about your rice lands and the farmers, don’t let places like Bulgyo and Igok whittle away. There are more than few things Korean government can learn from Israeli’s agricultural sector.

Korean government has told us that they object to FTA because they care so much about the farmers. Now it’s time for them to walk the walk or be quite.

]]> By: R. Elgin http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/08/no-need-to-get-dragged-around-by-america-on-fta-uri-party-chief/#comment-58404 R. Elgin Fri, 08 Dec 2006 06:46:55 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/08/no-need-to-get-dragged-around-by-america-on-fta-uri-party-chief/#comment-58404 If Koreans think that an FTA with America is bad, wait until China gets started. Even American growers are having a <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/03/business/03farm.html" rel="nofollow">tough time dealing with Chinese goods.</a> Koreans need to get real before they get left behind, if not smashed by the Chinese. If Koreans think that an FTA with America is bad, wait until China gets started. Even American growers are having a tough time dealing with Chinese goods.

Koreans need to get real before they get left behind, if not smashed by the Chinese.

]]> By: The Goat http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/08/no-need-to-get-dragged-around-by-america-on-fta-uri-party-chief/#comment-58402 The Goat Fri, 08 Dec 2006 06:42:56 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/08/no-need-to-get-dragged-around-by-america-on-fta-uri-party-chief/#comment-58402 I am still kind of leaning towards the opening of the FTA talks being fully politically motivated - with no economic considerations at all. In agreement with slim, Korea just has too many barriers to bring down at one time - making an agreement would be political suicide (regardless of any long term benefits). By going through the motions and saying "NO" to the US in order to "protect our national interests"...well it does not take a genius to figure out the effect that will have. I am still kind of leaning towards the opening of the FTA talks being fully politically motivated - with no economic considerations at all. In agreement with slim, Korea just has too many barriers to bring down at one time - making an agreement would be political suicide (regardless of any long term benefits).

By going through the motions and saying “NO” to the US in order to “protect our national interests”…well it does not take a genius to figure out the effect that will have.

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