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		<title>By: China Law Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/07/spotlight-on-megastudy-business-model/#comment-58432</link>
		<dc:creator>China Law Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;China Business: Location, Location, Location...&lt;/strong&gt;

I was recently contacted by someone putting together a China conference regarding my speaking on where to locate a business within China. I quickly made clear I was not the right person to give this talk, but it did get...</description>
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<p>I was recently contacted by someone putting together a China conference regarding my speaking on where to locate a business within China. I quickly made clear I was not the right person to give this talk, but it did get&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: judge judy</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/07/spotlight-on-megastudy-business-model/#comment-58392</link>
		<dc:creator>judge judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 05:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Certainly HR Departments should not be asking stuff like “Why did your parents get divorced?” or “When you studied abroad, did you live with a relative or by yourself?”, as friends of mine were asked in Korea (at chaebol interviews).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

well, it wasn't too long ago that many of the chaebols had a fortune teller sitting in on interviews, according to more than a few executives i've spoken with.  

HR is improving rapidly in some areas, but nothing changes in others.  unfortunately, HR does not have the strength to determine more than rough hiring guidelines that boil down to upper level managers (oftentimes simply older dogs) making the call on what questions and behavior are appropriate.  

of course, there is an upside to all of this.  acting innapropriately initiates the new recruits in innapropriate behavior and the korean HR bokanovsky process continues successfully-stability reached.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Certainly HR Departments should not be asking stuff like “Why did your parents get divorced?” or “When you studied abroad, did you live with a relative or by yourself?”, as friends of mine were asked in Korea (at chaebol interviews).</p></blockquote>
<p>well, it wasn&#8217;t too long ago that many of the chaebols had a fortune teller sitting in on interviews, according to more than a few executives i&#8217;ve spoken with.  </p>
<p>HR is improving rapidly in some areas, but nothing changes in others.  unfortunately, HR does not have the strength to determine more than rough hiring guidelines that boil down to upper level managers (oftentimes simply older dogs) making the call on what questions and behavior are appropriate.  </p>
<p>of course, there is an upside to all of this.  acting innapropriately initiates the new recruits in innapropriate behavior and the korean HR bokanovsky process continues successfully-stability reached.</p>
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		<title>By: Haisan</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/07/spotlight-on-megastudy-business-model/#comment-58388</link>
		<dc:creator>Haisan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 05:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VR said: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Except for people in technical/professional fields, it doesn’t seem like Korean people go goo goo over SNU degree anymore. (point in proof, the election of President Roh Moo Hyun)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Go to Hyundai or the Ministry of Finance and Economy and see how their new hires break down. Last I checked, it was ridiculously stacked in favor of the big schools. Far more disproportionate than what you would see in the West (where there are dozens of first-rate schools across the United States, let along respectable schools in other countries).

How should HR departments hire? How do HR departments in the West choose new hires? There is a whole academic field dedicated to HR:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Resource_Management

Certainly HR Departments should not be asking stuff like "Why did your parents get divorced?" or "When you studied abroad, did you live with a relative or by yourself?", as friends of mine were asked in Korea (at chaebol interviews). Getting rid of photos and age requirements on job applications would be steps in the right direction, too.

Sonagi - I think you are splitting hairs. "a few in every class" * number of classes = oodles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VR said: </p>
<blockquote><p>Except for people in technical/professional fields, it doesn’t seem like Korean people go goo goo over SNU degree anymore. (point in proof, the election of President Roh Moo Hyun)</p></blockquote>
<p>Go to Hyundai or the Ministry of Finance and Economy and see how their new hires break down. Last I checked, it was ridiculously stacked in favor of the big schools. Far more disproportionate than what you would see in the West (where there are dozens of first-rate schools across the United States, let along respectable schools in other countries).</p>
<p>How should HR departments hire? How do HR departments in the West choose new hires? There is a whole academic field dedicated to HR:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Resource_Management" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.....Management</a></p>
<p>Certainly HR Departments should not be asking stuff like &#8220;Why did your parents get divorced?&#8221; or &#8220;When you studied abroad, did you live with a relative or by yourself?&#8221;, as friends of mine were asked in Korea (at chaebol interviews). Getting rid of photos and age requirements on job applications would be steps in the right direction, too.</p>
<p>Sonagi - I think you are splitting hairs. &#8220;a few in every class&#8221; * number of classes = oodles.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/07/spotlight-on-megastudy-business-model/#comment-58372</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 01:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being receptive to immigrants also helps.  A number of Nobel Prize winners from the US were naturalized citizens.  I recall reading an article a couple of years ago about how Germany and Japan have tried to attract Indian high-tech talent but have been unsuccessful because Indians consider the US a more desirable place to live owing to its great ethnic diversity and more relaxed green card and citizenship requirements.  University Colleges of Science and Engineering and hospitals rely heavily on hiring foreign-born talent. 

The US doesn't give a rat's ass about its international standing because public school teachers are too focused on their students passing state tests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being receptive to immigrants also helps.  A number of Nobel Prize winners from the US were naturalized citizens.  I recall reading an article a couple of years ago about how Germany and Japan have tried to attract Indian high-tech talent but have been unsuccessful because Indians consider the US a more desirable place to live owing to its great ethnic diversity and more relaxed green card and citizenship requirements.  University Colleges of Science and Engineering and hospitals rely heavily on hiring foreign-born talent. </p>
<p>The US doesn&#8217;t give a rat&#8217;s ass about its international standing because public school teachers are too focused on their students passing state tests.</p>
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		<title>By: mateomiguel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mateomiguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 00:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Please explain to me how the Yank kids can do so “Badly” on the standardized test yet still be the leading inventers in the world?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, the way it was explained to me once before is that out of all the school systems in the world, the US is the only one that doesn't give a rat's ass about their international standing.  In fact, if US students get poor international rankings, that's a way for the educational system to get more funding.  So, in some cases, mediocre or poor students are encouraged to take the Math standardized tests while Math club students don't even know it exists.  

It sounds like it could be true, and if so, I'm glad.  I love being part of a country that DOESN'T compare itself to other countries incessantly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Please explain to me how the Yank kids can do so “Badly” on the standardized test yet still be the leading inventers in the world?</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, the way it was explained to me once before is that out of all the school systems in the world, the US is the only one that doesn&#8217;t give a rat&#8217;s ass about their international standing.  In fact, if US students get poor international rankings, that&#8217;s a way for the educational system to get more funding.  So, in some cases, mediocre or poor students are encouraged to take the Math standardized tests while Math club students don&#8217;t even know it exists.  </p>
<p>It sounds like it could be true, and if so, I&#8217;m glad.  I love being part of a country that DOESN&#8217;T compare itself to other countries incessantly.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 00:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Virtual Wonderer said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;It just seems like if you have to choose from a goof off from Korea University as opposed to a goof off from a regional university, you are better off hiring a goof off from Koryodae&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why hire either one with so many unemployed university graduates looking for work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Virtual Wonderer said:</p>
<blockquote><p>It just seems like if you have to choose from a goof off from Korea University as opposed to a goof off from a regional university, you are better off hiring a goof off from Koryodae</p></blockquote>
<p>Why hire either one with so many unemployed university graduates looking for work?</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 00:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haisan said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Which is silly, because I can easily find hundreds of sharp, great young people who graduated from “lesser” universities. And oodles of idiots from Seoul, Yonsei, Korea universities. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I didn't find "oodles of idiots" among the students I taught at Yonsei and Korea, but I did encounter a few in every class and wonder, "How the heck did you get in here?"  I have met oodles of sharp, great young people who graduated from "lesser" universities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haisan said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Which is silly, because I can easily find hundreds of sharp, great young people who graduated from “lesser” universities. And oodles of idiots from Seoul, Yonsei, Korea universities. </p></blockquote>
<p>I didn&#8217;t find &#8220;oodles of idiots&#8221; among the students I taught at Yonsei and Korea, but I did encounter a few in every class and wonder, &#8220;How the heck did you get in here?&#8221;  I have met oodles of sharp, great young people who graduated from &#8220;lesser&#8221; universities.</p>
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		<title>By: virtual wonderer</title>
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		<dc:creator>virtual wonderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 20:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haisan, but how would a big company's HR department tell which guy/gal is more qualified other than see what school they went and what GPA they earned?

Except for people in technical/professional fields, it doesn't seem like Korean people go goo goo over SNU degree anymore.  (point in proof, the election of President Roh Moo Hyun)

It just seems like if you have to choose from a goof off from Korea University as opposed to a goof off from a regional university, you are better off hiring a goof off from Koryodae.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haisan, but how would a big company&#8217;s HR department tell which guy/gal is more qualified other than see what school they went and what GPA they earned?</p>
<p>Except for people in technical/professional fields, it doesn&#8217;t seem like Korean people go goo goo over SNU degree anymore.  (point in proof, the election of President Roh Moo Hyun)</p>
<p>It just seems like if you have to choose from a goof off from Korea University as opposed to a goof off from a regional university, you are better off hiring a goof off from Koryodae.</p>
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		<title>By: R. Elgin</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. Elgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 16:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch, . . . thanks for the reminder Gillian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch, . . . thanks for the reminder Gillian.</p>
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		<title>By: trachys</title>
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		<dc:creator>trachys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 14:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dammit, caught editing. I didn't want to be told to look up the rules for the negation of auxiliary verbs ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dammit, caught editing. I didn&#8217;t want to be told to look up the rules for the negation of auxiliary verbs &#8230;</p>
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