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	<title>Comments on: Look, Mom, my hagwon English teacher is an overseas porn star!</title>
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		<title>By: Ajummas on Top &#171; The Grand Narrative</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/12/01/look-mom-my-hagwon-english-teacher-is-an-overseas-porn-star/#comment-101670</link>
		<dc:creator>Ajummas on Top &#171; The Grand Narrative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 09:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m against that!). Yes, she&#8217;s the same one who came to teach English in Korea but who was exposed recently if you&#8217;re interested (no pun [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Iceberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iceberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Hair nudes". That phrase just kills me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hair nudes&#8221;. That phrase just kills me.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Koehler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Koehler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 15:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Koreans making hardcore porn IN Korea (but distributed on foreign servers such as zottotv and the like) are not charged and fined, and&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I thought the girls like 딸기 who were involved in zottotv and the like were busted and even had to do "community service" at the group home in Gyeonggi-do for former comfort women.  I also believe that a lot of the (admitedly excellent) work that they did was in Canada and they got busted when they came back to Korea.  I have a ton of stuff in the archives (like &lt;a href="http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/05/27/if-you-cant-make-korean-porn-in-canada-where-can-you-make-it/" rel="nofollow"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;) about that case if you run a search.
&lt;blockquote&gt;why are celebrated nude models such as Lee Seung-hee and Lee Sa-bi also not charged under the obscenity laws. They are showing genetalia and pubic hair, too, aren’t they? Lee Seung-hee has even shown it all in movies.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well, for starters, Lee Seung-hee is, legally speaking, about as Korean as I am.  She's from Ohio, after all.  Secondly, I don't believe doing "hair nudes" overseas is illegal---the problem is that "hair nudes" of "a strongly sexual nature" cannot be distributed in Korea.  I seem to recall that being an issue when Lee Sabi did her work for Playboy---Playboy's Korean partner, Spice TV, wanted to release her "hair nudes" here, but the &lt;a href="http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/03/12/but-then-again-who-needs-ayatollahs-when-youve-got-the-icec/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Information Communication Ethics Committee said no&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Koreans making hardcore porn IN Korea (but distributed on foreign servers such as zottotv and the like) are not charged and fined, and</p></blockquote>
<p>I thought the girls like 딸기 who were involved in zottotv and the like were busted and even had to do &#8220;community service&#8221; at the group home in Gyeonggi-do for former comfort women.  I also believe that a lot of the (admitedly excellent) work that they did was in Canada and they got busted when they came back to Korea.  I have a ton of stuff in the archives (like <a href="http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/05/27/if-you-cant-make-korean-porn-in-canada-where-can-you-make-it/" rel="nofollow">this</a>) about that case if you run a search.</p>
<blockquote><p>why are celebrated nude models such as Lee Seung-hee and Lee Sa-bi also not charged under the obscenity laws. They are showing genetalia and pubic hair, too, aren’t they? Lee Seung-hee has even shown it all in movies.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, for starters, Lee Seung-hee is, legally speaking, about as Korean as I am.  She&#8217;s from Ohio, after all.  Secondly, I don&#8217;t believe doing &#8220;hair nudes&#8221; overseas is illegal&#8212;the problem is that &#8220;hair nudes&#8221; of &#8220;a strongly sexual nature&#8221; cannot be distributed in Korea.  I seem to recall that being an issue when Lee Sabi did her work for Playboy&#8212;Playboy&#8217;s Korean partner, Spice TV, wanted to release her &#8220;hair nudes&#8221; here, but the <a href="http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/03/12/but-then-again-who-needs-ayatollahs-when-youve-got-the-icec/" rel="nofollow">Information Communication Ethics Committee said no</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Darth Babaganoosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darth Babaganoosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 13:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I get the fact that she broke Korea's laws on obscenity (the showing of genetalia and pubic hair, to start).

BUT if she's being charged with breaking these laws even though she "broke" them in ANOTHER country, then I don't understand why:

1) Koreans making hardcore porn IN Korea (but distributed on foreign servers such as zottotv and the like) are not charged and fined, and

2) why are celebrated nude models such as Lee Seung-hee and Lee Sa-bi also not charged under the obscenity laws. They are showing genetalia and pubic hair, too, aren't they? Lee Seung-hee has even shown it all in movies.

[ I won't even get into the issue of how Korea thinks it can impose its laws on acts that occur in another sovereign state, where those acts are legal ]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I get the fact that she broke Korea&#8217;s laws on obscenity (the showing of genetalia and pubic hair, to start).</p>
<p>BUT if she&#8217;s being charged with breaking these laws even though she &#8220;broke&#8221; them in ANOTHER country, then I don&#8217;t understand why:</p>
<p>1) Koreans making hardcore porn IN Korea (but distributed on foreign servers such as zottotv and the like) are not charged and fined, and</p>
<p>2) why are celebrated nude models such as Lee Seung-hee and Lee Sa-bi also not charged under the obscenity laws. They are showing genetalia and pubic hair, too, aren&#8217;t they? Lee Seung-hee has even shown it all in movies.</p>
<p>[ I won't even get into the issue of how Korea thinks it can impose its laws on acts that occur in another sovereign state, where those acts are legal ]</p>
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		<title>By: wolfgang</title>
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		<dc:creator>wolfgang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 07:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the lovely lady in question out the last few weeks at a popular foreign drinking establishment. (She's much lovelier on video than in person by the way)  She was getting friendly with a much lovelier Caucasian lady and ignoring the advances of every male patron.  She definitely enjoying everyone watching her antics as they got nastier the more people looked at them.  A show pony to say the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the lovely lady in question out the last few weeks at a popular foreign drinking establishment. (She&#8217;s much lovelier on video than in person by the way)  She was getting friendly with a much lovelier Caucasian lady and ignoring the advances of every male patron.  She definitely enjoying everyone watching her antics as they got nastier the more people looked at them.  A show pony to say the least.</p>
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		<title>By: Occidentalism &#187; Why I do not bother to debate in Korean with Koreans anymore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occidentalism &#187; Why I do not bother to debate in Korean with Koreans anymore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 04:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here is the exchange. I think it will be interesting for those that can understand Korean. The Korean is uhoooooo, I am using my nom de plume &#8217;shakuhachi&#8217;, and dogbert is dogbert of course. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Here is the exchange. I think it will be interesting for those that can understand Korean. The Korean is uhoooooo, I am using my nom de plume &#8217;shakuhachi&#8217;, and dogbert is dogbert of course. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
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		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 21:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christmas break, dogbertt.

I told you so, uhoooooo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christmas break, dogbertt.</p>
<p>I told you so, uhoooooo</p>
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		<title>By: shakuhachi</title>
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		<dc:creator>shakuhachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;강간,은 왜 나오는지,
여자 문제야 이것, http://www.law4u.net/tech/board.php?board=trivia&#38;command=body&#38;no=19 . 이 정도로 충분하지 않나요?
한국남자들은 오지 못하게 하고 한국여성들만 입장시켜서는 저런다면서요? 당연히, 친분 있는 아니면 잔신부름이나 아니면 파티를 주관하는 몇 한국인은 입장하겠지요. 미국에서 한국 남자들이 저래 봐. 무슨 일이 일어날지 -_-;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

그 파티에는 한국 남자 금지 아니었습니다. 한국 남성을 자유스럽게 입장 시켰어요. 게다가 한국 남성도 그 파티에서 재미 있게 시간을 보냈다고 들었습니다.

사진을 잘 보면 작게 한국 남성의 얼굴을 볼 수 있습니다. 한국 남성이 있고, 참가하고, 놀았습니다. 물론 인종의 혼란을 시키고 싶은 네티즌이 그 사실을 알리고 싶지 않습니다. 그리고 그 파티의 내용에 관해서는, 네티즌등은 "섹스 파티" 라고 설명했는데 그 것은 왜곡된 내용 입니다. 실은 사진에 있는 여성들이 파티의 근무하는 여성 이었습니다. 외설인 행위는 이벤트의 전략이며 한국 여성만 아니라 다국의 서양 여성도 참가했습니다. 이 주장의 검증에 대해서 다시 사진을 보세요.

키포인트는 한국 남성도 외국 남성도 모두 있고, 한국 여성과 외국 여성이 남성의 성욕망의 대상이 되었습니다. 어떤 나라라도 섹스에 어필하면 티켓을 팔려 자르는군요. 그러나 한국의 네티즌이나 매스컴은 내용을 왜곡해 국민을 자극 시키고 당신 처럼 분노하시는 사람이 많겠지요.

다시 물어보지만, 정말로 외국 남성 하는 성폭행은 한국 남성 하는 성폭행 보다 자주 있는 현상이라고 생각합니까? 특별히 외국 남성을 지적하니까 구체적인 답장을 원합니다.

I hope someone besides me and dogbert is reading this, because there is an interesting discussion going on here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>강간,은 왜 나오는지,<br />
여자 문제야 이것, <a href="http://www.law4u.net/tech/board.php?board=trivia&amp;command=body&amp;no=19" rel="nofollow">http://www.law4u.net/tech/boar.....&amp;no=19</a> . 이 정도로 충분하지 않나요?<br />
한국남자들은 오지 못하게 하고 한국여성들만 입장시켜서는 저런다면서요? 당연히, 친분 있는 아니면 잔신부름이나 아니면 파티를 주관하는 몇 한국인은 입장하겠지요. 미국에서 한국 남자들이 저래 봐. 무슨 일이 일어날지 -_-;</p></blockquote>
<p>그 파티에는 한국 남자 금지 아니었습니다. 한국 남성을 자유스럽게 입장 시켰어요. 게다가 한국 남성도 그 파티에서 재미 있게 시간을 보냈다고 들었습니다.</p>
<p>사진을 잘 보면 작게 한국 남성의 얼굴을 볼 수 있습니다. 한국 남성이 있고, 참가하고, 놀았습니다. 물론 인종의 혼란을 시키고 싶은 네티즌이 그 사실을 알리고 싶지 않습니다. 그리고 그 파티의 내용에 관해서는, 네티즌등은 &#8220;섹스 파티&#8221; 라고 설명했는데 그 것은 왜곡된 내용 입니다. 실은 사진에 있는 여성들이 파티의 근무하는 여성 이었습니다. 외설인 행위는 이벤트의 전략이며 한국 여성만 아니라 다국의 서양 여성도 참가했습니다. 이 주장의 검증에 대해서 다시 사진을 보세요.</p>
<p>키포인트는 한국 남성도 외국 남성도 모두 있고, 한국 여성과 외국 여성이 남성의 성욕망의 대상이 되었습니다. 어떤 나라라도 섹스에 어필하면 티켓을 팔려 자르는군요. 그러나 한국의 네티즌이나 매스컴은 내용을 왜곡해 국민을 자극 시키고 당신 처럼 분노하시는 사람이 많겠지요.</p>
<p>다시 물어보지만, 정말로 외국 남성 하는 성폭행은 한국 남성 하는 성폭행 보다 자주 있는 현상이라고 생각합니까? 특별히 외국 남성을 지적하니까 구체적인 답장을 원합니다.</p>
<p>I hope someone besides me and dogbert is reading this, because there is an interesting discussion going on here.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cunning linguists.  :p</description>
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		<title>By: dogbertt</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogbertt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 09:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;홍대에서 한국 남자 오지 마라 한국 여자들만 와라 그러고서
서양인 남성이면 xx하는 한국 여자들 불러놓고 저게 뭡니까. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

제가 올린 글에 그런 의미는 없다니깐요.  영어를 제대로 해석할 줄 모르시나 싶어서 제가 앞으로 한국어로 답을 써야겠네요.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>홍대에서 한국 남자 오지 마라 한국 여자들만 와라 그러고서<br />
서양인 남성이면 xx하는 한국 여자들 불러놓고 저게 뭡니까. </p></blockquote>
<p>제가 올린 글에 그런 의미는 없다니깐요.  영어를 제대로 해석할 줄 모르시나 싶어서 제가 앞으로 한국어로 답을 써야겠네요.</p>
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