Man, I don’t know where the Chosun heard this (see last paragraph), but wouldn’t it be interesting if it were true?
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Man, I don’t know where the Chosun heard this (see last paragraph), but wouldn’t it be interesting if it were true?
(HT to Lost Nomad)
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Where is Baduk, with his “China and Japan and the US will fight a devastating nuclear war in which Korea must stay neutral!” Seems like everyones getting into a lovefest and Seoul is left out in the cold. Not that any Marmot readers are surprised…
That would be a win-win deal all around, it seems — including for the peoples of NK (better gov) and SK (avoid reunification costs awhile longer, taxi drivers spared beatings by drunken Yankee GIs). Only real losers would be the KJI regime, and they SO deserve to lose…
It’s a editorial and written by some Korean right-wing wacko, so I have doubts about its authenticity.
I think the real loser in this situation would be Dokdo. China will do its communist best to make sure that this China-friendly regime will eventually merge with China. If China does end up taking all of North Korea into itself what kind of precedent does that set for South Korea’s claim to Dokdo?
Non-issue. The N/S Korea claim to Dokdo isn’t legitimate as it is now [(me) ducks and run's for cover]
The idea has a certain elegance to it, but alas, consider the source.
i just wish that something, anything, would happen. The six party talks cannot last forever, can they? I need to see the resolution of this addicting drama firsthand! Only then can I feel satisfied enough to get off this peninsula and go back home.
Well, sometimes the more absurd possibilities end up being the ones that prove to be accurate when we look back on things. Look at 9/11 for instance. People did not go near the possibility that it was all a hoax and that Osama was a mere puppet. We say the towers come down and we didn’t question the vested interests that might have played a part. 5 years later and its an extravaganza of sensationalist documentaries that horrifyingly are raising valid questions based on valid evidence. It would be ignorant for us to sit here and not consider that the US and China are cooking up some very real strategies on how to bring down NK once and for all. As much as SK tries to think otherwise, the shit is bound to hit the fan and the big players are probably just wanting to get it over with. IF things ever die down in Iraq (which they probably won’t), and if China has a bit more inspiration when a world-wide sports event is not on the horizon, just wait and see what happens. The bubble will likely burst. Let’s just hope its a tidy explosion that doesn’t involve Seoul and cheap draft at Geckos.
One can only dream. The goals of the U.S. and ROK governments have diverged. South Korea wants to prop up the Kim regime as long as possible to avoid a costly reunification (they could care less about NK nukes). The U.S. wants Kim Jong-il gone because they know he’ll sell nukes to anyone, including Al Qaeda.
If China would topple the Kim regime in exchange for a withdrawal of U.S. forces from Korea it would be a great deal. Bush and Rice would be fools to reject such an offer if it is really possible.
sanshinseon is right.
I would just add that the US would also be a winner, to the tune of $3 billion a year.
What next? Should America give S. Korea back to Japan then? Iraq back to Saddam, France back to Germany, and Israel back to the Palestinians? Oh wait, Israel actually appreciates the support from America.
The trouble here is how in the world China, or anyone else, is going to topple the Kim Regime and not have South Korea bear the brunt of it. China could gain something from control of North Korea’s mineral resources, but there’s no guarantee that that would offset the huge costs they’d incur as a result of the almost guaranteed refugee and humanitarian crisis that would ensue. Washington could withdraw USFK and save some money short-term, but that wouldn’t last, there’s no way the US would pull out just as the PRC was creating a sphere of influence in North Korea, which would also make the South pretty nervous, I would think.
I’m just wondering how the mechanics of a coup would work. I know there has been a number of DPRK military defections to the PLA over the years, but doubt if these forces could be re-inserted without causing a major shite-storm. A move from within would be similarly futile due to the secrecy and closed nature of the country. At any rate the Chinese would only opt for a quick and bloodless coup as any weakening of DPRK forces could trigger a tidal wave of refugees and a host of other problems.
This “news” is pretty funny. I really have to hand it to Chosun for being able to find any piece of obscure news related to DPRK. They must really know how to google.
Curzon,
This scenario may come true as the US leaves Korea. China will eventually eat up South Korea and let a dictator (still KJI) rule over the Unified Korea.
And, the US will be closer to China. As the US becomes neutral toward Japan/China conflict, it will feel strong need to withdraw from Japan as well so as not to get muddled in this upcoming local conflict.
As I wrote many times, the US will withdraw not only from SK but also from Japan. And, the China-Japan hegemony fight will start within ten years.
It will be all-out nuclear war with unseen brutality. Chemical, biological, nuclear(both conventional and strategic) and other yet-unknown weapons will be used to kill each other to the max.
The Unified Korea on the side of China will take the blunt of this war. More Koreans will die than the other two combined.
Koreans may disappear as people from the face of the earth.
Baduk is that you? “Koreans may disappear from the face of the earth…”
Please, only one world-shaking thought before breakfast. I’m still trying to come to grips with “…France back to Germany…” and what that will mean for Dokdo. It’s no wonder Yankee GI’s feel the need to get drunk and beat up taxi drivers.
Riiiiight. The US will trust China to take the nuke toys away from the Norks. Just like China didn’t give nuke technology and warhead designs to Pakistan. Not that Pakistan would share that knowledge…..
This story is delusional. The US has nothing to gain from dealing its alliance away for Chinese promises.
It’s just a pro-Sunshine Policy/Anti-American urban legend.
China had a semi-decent excuse to give nukes to Pakistan and it isn’t all that crazy in the scheme of India China relations.
climm2,
interesting view. it would make an interesting what-if future history novel. sounds like the “yellow people” scenario from the book of revelations.
When the Communists got in power in Russia (USSR back then), they uprooted all KoreanRussians to Uzbekistan and Cazakstan. Put those Koreans on trains and move them half-way across the globe. This once and for all demolished KoreanRussians to rise up against the Russian government.
China will do the same. Koreans may rise up against the Chinese. To void this possibility, China will waste one half of Koreans in the China-Japan war. The remainder will be shipped near to Tibet to work in the collective farm. They will be order to intermarry with Tibetian people, thereby losing Korean culuture.
No more Koreans in fifty years!
China is becoming the most important business partner in recent years. It is buying more US government bonds than Japan.
China is producing nearly all the goods consumed by the US and Europe. When it earns dollars, China dutifully buys the US bonds. China and the US are important duo in the world today, enriching each other.
Japan, in the future, will be less important to the US than China. As a result, the US will take neutral position when it comes to the conflicts between China and Japan.
To free itself from the possible future regional war, the US will slowly withdraw from Japan, after completely withdrawing from SouthKorea in two years.
The Chinese are becoming an important business ally to the US.
baduk, I don’t know what you’re smoking, but it must be some good stuff.
i think it’s plausible since all parties outside of korea would like nothing better than to keep n/s korea apart.
btw, i know many of you think i am troll who stalks the internet for expats but the truth of the matter is, i only visit this site. yes, on occasion, i’ll go see what that bigot(shakuhuchi/matt/occidentalism) is up to, or i’ll visit that site run by the guy who exposed said bigot as the fool that he is. i think it’s called ‘popular gusts of feeling’. anyway, i don’t usually visit the korea blogs listed on the side.
tonight was different. tonight, i went to visit the site ‘what not to do in australia’. you folks who haven’t gone there, should do yourself a favor and pay a visit. the guy who runs it comes off as very friendly and not interested in slamming koreans. from the many pictures, looks like he’s having fun.
be sure to check out the section ‘what no to cook in australia’. man! kimchi ham sandwich with mayonaise and ketsup? yikes!
Actually, many South Koreans do not want to reunite any time soon simply because of the economic drain and havoc this would play on Korea. Also, most “parties outside of Korea” could not care any less if such were to happen or not. You should spend time talking to average Koreans . . . it’s fun and I meet some of the best people too.
Korea was not a separate people till Daewongun started an independence movement which was carried on by Minbi. They declared DaeHanJeguk.
Before then, Korea was a province of China and everyone in Korea believed they were the Chinese serving the Chinese emperor.
Japan, when it took over Korea, did rewrote Korean history and taught Koreans that they had a separate identity from 5000 years ago. A blatant lie.
I won’t be surprised if many Korean history books - three kingdoms, Goguryeo, Gorye, etc - are fabrications made by Japanese scholars.
Koreans always had been the Chinese with the only exception of 1910 till now. Koreans were under Japanese rule. And, then the US out of nowhere came over and protected Koreans.
Now, Koreans are telling the US to go and the US is leaving. In two years, the US will be totally out of Korean peninsula.
Koreas will go back to being a part of China.
I am not pro-Chinese nor pro-Japanese. I am pro-America.
I think Koreans making the worst mistake at this point of history. Shunning the US and joining the Great Chinese Empire.
The Chinese will come and rape SouthKorea. They may use NK to threaten SK to give up any resistance. Then, they will come. They will take houses, cars and other possessions. Even women.
It will be very similar to the Japanese rule but with more ugly out-and-out rapes.
Koreans will regret their decision for generations to come.
When the US leaves…
1) NK will start hostilities toward SK.
2) Continued fighting.
3) China takes Korean problem to UN and work out ceasefire and Korea-wide election.
4) KJI is the only candidate from NK. Many SK candidates split votes.
5) KJI elected as the first president of the Unified Koreas.
6) He follows Chinese orders to the tee.
Korea becomes a de-facto satellite of China.
Here is the link to that Time Asia article. I think you may find it interesting….
http://www.time.com/time/world.....90,00.html