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	<title>Comments on: I say, blame the doenjangnyeo for Lexus prices</title>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/11/23/i-say-blame-the-doenjangnyeo-for-lexus-prices/#comment-57325</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 07:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Double post...first was posted yesterday, second today.   I'd delete the first one, Marmot.  I guess the first was delayed it had too many links.  I thought it hadn't saved, so I posted a second.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Double post&#8230;first was posted yesterday, second today.   I&#8217;d delete the first one, Marmot.  I guess the first was delayed it had too many links.  I thought it hadn&#8217;t saved, so I posted a second.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/11/23/i-say-blame-the-doenjangnyeo-for-lexus-prices/#comment-57312</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 23:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seouldout, here or California, it doesn't matter.

"The South Korea government has revealed that new emission standards for automobiles will apply to vehicles manufactured after January 2006.

It means that South Korea's regulations will be brought into line with California's Ultra Low Emission Vehicle parameters for gasoline-fuelled cars."

http://www.platinum.matthey.com/media_room/1074081601.html

If you had paid attention, you would have noticed that I was dreaming of getting a classic car already modified with a new custom engine (probably an Edlebrock since the Roush engines can be twice as expensive).  

"For Edelbrock street products, our engineers use our Emissions Lab to test and certify parts. Designed specifically to comply with the Environmental Protection Agency's Code of Federal Regulations for vehicular emissions testing, the Edelbrock Emissions Laboratory provides vital data that is accepted by the EPA and the California Air Resources Board. " (edelbrock.com)

Not too sure about Roush engines' emissions, but they seem to produce at least one that meets American standards

"What do you get that you can’t do yourself? In addition to extra time to watch Speedvision (okay, Baywatch reruns?), you’ll get an EPA-certified, 360-hp ‘Stang that’s legal in all 50 states.  (No bowing and scraping before your local smog ref required!) "  (roushperf.com)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seouldout, here or California, it doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>&#8220;The South Korea government has revealed that new emission standards for automobiles will apply to vehicles manufactured after January 2006.</p>
<p>It means that South Korea&#8217;s regulations will be brought into line with California&#8217;s Ultra Low Emission Vehicle parameters for gasoline-fuelled cars.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.platinum.matthey.com/media_room/1074081601.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.platinum.matthey.co.....81601.html</a></p>
<p>If you had paid attention, you would have noticed that I was dreaming of getting a classic car already modified with a new custom engine (probably an Edlebrock since the Roush engines can be twice as expensive).  </p>
<p>&#8220;For Edelbrock street products, our engineers use our Emissions Lab to test and certify parts. Designed specifically to comply with the Environmental Protection Agency&#8217;s Code of Federal Regulations for vehicular emissions testing, the Edelbrock Emissions Laboratory provides vital data that is accepted by the EPA and the California Air Resources Board. &#8221; (edelbrock.com)</p>
<p>Not too sure about Roush engines&#8217; emissions, but they seem to produce at least one that meets American standards</p>
<p>&#8220;What do you get that you can’t do yourself? In addition to extra time to watch Speedvision (okay, Baywatch reruns?), you’ll get an EPA-certified, 360-hp ‘Stang that’s legal in all 50 states.  (No bowing and scraping before your local smog ref required!) &#8221;  (roushperf.com)</p>
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		<title>By: huey222</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/11/23/i-say-blame-the-doenjangnyeo-for-lexus-prices/#comment-57298</link>
		<dc:creator>huey222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a graphic (2 seperate pics) showing relative costs of vehicles in Korea, the US, Germany, and Japan.  I'm not sure of the source, but most of the figures seem to match those that we've been talking about.

http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/national/national1164391770.jpg
http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/national/national1164391771_2.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a graphic (2 seperate pics) showing relative costs of vehicles in Korea, the US, Germany, and Japan.  I&#8217;m not sure of the source, but most of the figures seem to match those that we&#8217;ve been talking about.</p>
<p><a href="http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/national/national1164391770.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/.....391770.jpg</a><br />
<a href="http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/national/national1164391771_2.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/.....1771_2.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/11/23/i-say-blame-the-doenjangnyeo-for-lexus-prices/#comment-57297</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, I'd compare the emissions standards, etc.  You know, the internet can be pretty useful sometimes.

"...South Korea's regulations will be brought into line with California's Ultra Low Emission Vehicle parameters for gasoline-fuelled cars."

http://www.platinum.matthey.com/media_room/1074081601.html

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_new/misc/company/about_the_company.shtml

http://www.roushperf.com/news.cgi?type=rel_story&#38;sid=29</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, I&#8217;d compare the emissions standards, etc.  You know, the internet can be pretty useful sometimes.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;South Korea&#8217;s regulations will be brought into line with California&#8217;s Ultra Low Emission Vehicle parameters for gasoline-fuelled cars.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.platinum.matthey.com/media_room/1074081601.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.platinum.matthey.co.....81601.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_new/misc/company/about_the_company.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.edelbrock.com/autom.....pany.shtml</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.roushperf.com/news.cgi?type=rel_story&amp;sid=29" rel="nofollow">http://www.roushperf.com/news......amp;sid=29</a></p>
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		<title>By: seouldout</title>
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		<dc:creator>seouldout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someguy, is here Korea or California?  If your here is California then there is an exemption for classic cars.  Yes, you could drive it to the US, but most states, if not all, require cars to be registered in the state where the owner resides.  If here is Korea there is no such exemption, but there are no classic cars either.  Haven't seen a Maepsi, Pony or Granada in years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someguy, is here Korea or California?  If your here is California then there is an exemption for classic cars.  Yes, you could drive it to the US, but most states, if not all, require cars to be registered in the state where the owner resides.  If here is Korea there is no such exemption, but there are no classic cars either.  Haven&#8217;t seen a Maepsi, Pony or Granada in years.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 23:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seouldout, maybe so. That's why I mentioned the Edelbrock and Roush engines.  I know some people in California have have these custom built engines in their cars...But, I'd have to check if that's only possible because classic cars are exempt from the emissions tests in California.  Couldn't I get around from it by registering the car in my brothers name in Canada and driving it here with Canadian plates?  (of course, this is all hypothetical because the old ball and chain would never go for it)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seouldout, maybe so. That&#8217;s why I mentioned the Edelbrock and Roush engines.  I know some people in California have have these custom built engines in their cars&#8230;But, I&#8217;d have to check if that&#8217;s only possible because classic cars are exempt from the emissions tests in California.  Couldn&#8217;t I get around from it by registering the car in my brothers name in Canada and driving it here with Canadian plates?  (of course, this is all hypothetical because the old ball and chain would never go for it)</p>
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		<title>By: seouldout</title>
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		<dc:creator>seouldout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 10:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someguy, that's a hella of a machine, but I doubt it'll pass the emissions test.  And yes, older cars have to meet today's standards--nothing grandfathered in here.  Those wagging tongues will those of the officials at the test center who'll keep failing your car at approx. 800,000 won a crack.

Getting parts will be a bitch too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someguy, that&#8217;s a hella of a machine, but I doubt it&#8217;ll pass the emissions test.  And yes, older cars have to meet today&#8217;s standards&#8211;nothing grandfathered in here.  Those wagging tongues will those of the officials at the test center who&#8217;ll keep failing your car at approx. 800,000 won a crack.</p>
<p>Getting parts will be a bitch too.</p>
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		<title>By: seouldout</title>
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		<dc:creator>seouldout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 04:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least they can 't be accused of dumping.  Dram_Man (I recall) covered the taxes (and taxes on taxes on taxes) a while ago here.

Also of note is the warranty offered here by both foreign and domestic automakers; it pales to those offered in the US.

The wife's in the shipping business, and the demand for Mercs &#38; BMWs is so strong that some customers will pay to fly them in rather than wait for the boat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least they can &#8216;t be accused of dumping.  Dram_Man (I recall) covered the taxes (and taxes on taxes on taxes) a while ago here.</p>
<p>Also of note is the warranty offered here by both foreign and domestic automakers; it pales to those offered in the US.</p>
<p>The wife&#8217;s in the shipping business, and the demand for Mercs &amp; BMWs is so strong that some customers will pay to fly them in rather than wait for the boat.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 04:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm considering having a 60's Ford Mustang with an Edelbrock or Roush supercharged engine shipped over here (I figured it's doable for under 20 000$).  That would get tongues wagging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m considering having a 60&#8217;s Ford Mustang with an Edelbrock or Roush supercharged engine shipped over here (I figured it&#8217;s doable for under 20 000$).  That would get tongues wagging.</p>
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		<title>By: captbbq</title>
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		<dc:creator>captbbq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 16:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MBC had a 불만제로 episode on this today: http://www.imbc.com/broad/tv/culture/zero/vod/index.html

it costs 500won to view though, but its a 15 minute segment, and its best to skip the first 5 minutes of it, but it breaks down many differences between domestic end export models. Its also funny to see them point out all there glaring differences between the models, (and all the things not different) and then stick at the end an interview with the Hyundai exec who says in so many words thats theres nothing different.

The show also contradicts several comments here. Anyway, its worth the 500 won. (Wait and I'll put it on my blog for free tomorrow, if I have time)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MBC had a 불만제로 episode on this today: <a href="http://www.imbc.com/broad/tv/culture/zero/vod/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.imbc.com/broad/tv/c.....index.html</a></p>
<p>it costs 500won to view though, but its a 15 minute segment, and its best to skip the first 5 minutes of it, but it breaks down many differences between domestic end export models. Its also funny to see them point out all there glaring differences between the models, (and all the things not different) and then stick at the end an interview with the Hyundai exec who says in so many words thats theres nothing different.</p>
<p>The show also contradicts several comments here. Anyway, its worth the 500 won. (Wait and I&#8217;ll put it on my blog for free tomorrow, if I have time)</p>
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