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	<title>Comments on: Weekly Chosun on Korea&#8217;s 14,000 foreign English teachers</title>
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		<title>By: Koreans Use Drugs More than Foreigners, But Canucks Still Potheads &#124; The Marmot's Hole</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/11/22/weekly-chosun-on-koreas-14000-foreign-english-teachers/#comment-126181</link>
		<dc:creator>Koreans Use Drugs More than Foreigners, But Canucks Still Potheads &#124; The Marmot's Hole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 03:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] English teachers in Korea hasn&#8217;t changed that much since 2006. As of August 2006, there were 4,598 Canadian E-2 visa holders. Even if we were to round the number of Canadians up to 5,000, the number comes out to one [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] English teachers in Korea hasn&#8217;t changed that much since 2006. As of August 2006, there were 4,598 Canadian E-2 visa holders. Even if we were to round the number of Canadians up to 5,000, the number comes out to one [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sicalcil</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/11/22/weekly-chosun-on-koreas-14000-foreign-english-teachers/#comment-116474</link>
		<dc:creator>sicalcil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyone aware of any updates on these stats?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyone aware of any updates on these stats?</p>
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		<title>By: Breaktrack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Breaktrack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, getting university grads (those qualified to obtain an E-2 visa) to come to Korea has become more difficult in the last little while. I've helped management recruit potential teachers for the company I work for. It's not like it used to be 7 or 8 years ago. This is the case with the company I work for anyway. It seems to have started right around the end of '02.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, getting university grads (those qualified to obtain an E-2 visa) to come to Korea has become more difficult in the last little while. I&#8217;ve helped management recruit potential teachers for the company I work for. It&#8217;s not like it used to be 7 or 8 years ago. This is the case with the company I work for anyway. It seems to have started right around the end of &#8216;02.</p>
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		<title>By: Daily Dose: November 23 - Resources - China, Daily Dose, ESL - TEFL Logue</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/11/22/weekly-chosun-on-koreas-14000-foreign-english-teachers/#comment-57111</link>
		<dc:creator>Daily Dose: November 23 - Resources - China, Daily Dose, ESL - TEFL Logue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 23:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Get an English language summary of an article in Korean about EFL teachers in Korea. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Get an English language summary of an article in Korean about EFL teachers in Korea. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The_William_G</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/11/22/weekly-chosun-on-koreas-14000-foreign-english-teachers/#comment-56943</link>
		<dc:creator>The_William_G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's the thing about being a hagwon chimp:

1) About 95% of your pay goes into your own pocket after you handle utilities. So you have near $2000 to play with every month. Abd all i know is that I'd never have that must spending money back Cantaxada

2) You don't pay rent since the hagwon provides housing. The downside to this is that they, more often than not, provide you with a shit-hole to keep costs down. 

3) Despite the occasion frustration, the job is pretty easy. 

4) If you don't like what's being offered to you while job hunting by one hagwon, you can just go down the street and see what the next one has to offer.

Overall it's a pretty good life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the thing about being a hagwon chimp:</p>
<p>1) About 95% of your pay goes into your own pocket after you handle utilities. So you have near $2000 to play with every month. Abd all i know is that I&#8217;d never have that must spending money back Cantaxada</p>
<p>2) You don&#8217;t pay rent since the hagwon provides housing. The downside to this is that they, more often than not, provide you with a shit-hole to keep costs down. </p>
<p>3) Despite the occasion frustration, the job is pretty easy. </p>
<p>4) If you don&#8217;t like what&#8217;s being offered to you while job hunting by one hagwon, you can just go down the street and see what the next one has to offer.</p>
<p>Overall it&#8217;s a pretty good life.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Holy crap, are the Engrish teachers in Korea really making 50k USD a year fresh out of school teaching kindergartners?"

Some of us F5 holders earn more than that.   You just need to diversify your income.  For example, I teach at a university and own a business (we had two, but we sold one at a profit).   Then there's the stock market.  Korean stocks are pretty predictable (goes up 3000won then goes down 3000 won.  Just like clockwork).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Holy crap, are the Engrish teachers in Korea really making 50k USD a year fresh out of school teaching kindergartners?&#8221;</p>
<p>Some of us F5 holders earn more than that.   You just need to diversify your income.  For example, I teach at a university and own a business (we had two, but we sold one at a profit).   Then there&#8217;s the stock market.  Korean stocks are pretty predictable (goes up 3000won then goes down 3000 won.  Just like clockwork).</p>
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		<title>By: Jing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy crap, are the Engrish teachers in Korea really making 50k USD a year fresh out of school teaching kindergartners?

God I'm in the wrong business. 

The 9 to 5 business world can't compete with loafing by day, starcraft by night and not to mention the bevy of Korean hookers. One cannot forget the hookers.

Seriously, no matter how boring teaching English is, it has to be better than sitting in a cubicle (actually antire corner office for me, Yay!) all day and looking at bills of lading or letters of credit all day until your eyes bleed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy crap, are the Engrish teachers in Korea really making 50k USD a year fresh out of school teaching kindergartners?</p>
<p>God I&#8217;m in the wrong business. </p>
<p>The 9 to 5 business world can&#8217;t compete with loafing by day, starcraft by night and not to mention the bevy of Korean hookers. One cannot forget the hookers.</p>
<p>Seriously, no matter how boring teaching English is, it has to be better than sitting in a cubicle (actually antire corner office for me, Yay!) all day and looking at bills of lading or letters of credit all day until your eyes bleed.</p>
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		<title>By: Kunsanpcv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kunsanpcv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I served in the Peace Corps from 1974-1976 and there was certainly a demand for private tutoring.  But I don't remember all that many hagwons that offered English via native speakers.  One big reason was that in those days there were VERY few westerners in Korea who were not either military or Peace Corps.  In fact, running into a non-American was a rarity back then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I served in the Peace Corps from 1974-1976 and there was certainly a demand for private tutoring.  But I don&#8217;t remember all that many hagwons that offered English via native speakers.  One big reason was that in those days there were VERY few westerners in Korea who were not either military or Peace Corps.  In fact, running into a non-American was a rarity back then.</p>
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		<title>By: Irrawaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irrawaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone ever published a history of the Hagweon industry?  I seem to recall that there was a time back in the mists of history that hagweons were illegal, but that this was relaxed under Chon Duhwan.  

  When the Peace Corps left in (1982?) they had to do something to put native speakers in front of students.  Some of the PCV's I met in out-of-the-way places were doing some pretty solid work, and their students were coming along nicely.

  As far as the trillions spent on English, I guess this proves the old adage "throw enough mud against the wall and some of it's bound to stick"...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone ever published a history of the Hagweon industry?  I seem to recall that there was a time back in the mists of history that hagweons were illegal, but that this was relaxed under Chon Duhwan.  </p>
<p>  When the Peace Corps left in (1982?) they had to do something to put native speakers in front of students.  Some of the PCV&#8217;s I met in out-of-the-way places were doing some pretty solid work, and their students were coming along nicely.</p>
<p>  As far as the trillions spent on English, I guess this proves the old adage &#8220;throw enough mud against the wall and some of it&#8217;s bound to stick&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: usinkorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>usinkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If blacks are accepted today way faster than Kiwis and women, there must have been a cultural revolution since 2002.......

Can't stretch my imagination enough to believe it....

I didn't look at the exchange rate today, but it seems it has been getting more profitable again to teach in Korea.  

I started when the Won was at 790 to the US $.  But within a year, it was up to where it is now, and at a year and a half point, as the Asian Tiger Economies fell, I saw it hit around the 2,100 range and only came down to about 1,200-1,300 by the time I left teaching.

But the place is still going to have problems recruiting teachers even if the Won gets back to around 800-900, because the internet has made it too easy to find out how shitty the industry is and how the headaches are not worth the cash unless you are really desperate.  And the US economy is not bad enough for most college grads to decide to throw caution and advice to the wind and go to a South Korean hakwon....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If blacks are accepted today way faster than Kiwis and women, there must have been a cultural revolution since 2002&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t stretch my imagination enough to believe it&#8230;.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t look at the exchange rate today, but it seems it has been getting more profitable again to teach in Korea.  </p>
<p>I started when the Won was at 790 to the US $.  But within a year, it was up to where it is now, and at a year and a half point, as the Asian Tiger Economies fell, I saw it hit around the 2,100 range and only came down to about 1,200-1,300 by the time I left teaching.</p>
<p>But the place is still going to have problems recruiting teachers even if the Won gets back to around 800-900, because the internet has made it too easy to find out how shitty the industry is and how the headaches are not worth the cash unless you are really desperate.  And the US economy is not bad enough for most college grads to decide to throw caution and advice to the wind and go to a South Korean hakwon&#8230;.</p>
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