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		<title>By: virtual wonderer</title>
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		<dc:creator>virtual wonderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah.  I forgot to frisk Roh.  But I will have to put that off till I have more time.

happy turkey day everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah.  I forgot to frisk Roh.  But I will have to put that off till I have more time.</p>
<p>happy turkey day everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: virtual wonderer</title>
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		<dc:creator>virtual wonderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kunsanpsv, someguyinkorea, michael,

I hope you guys are right and I am being hyper sensitive.  Please dont' get me wrong, I don't doubt that allied forces will win.  I will even go so far as to say that once the DPRK citizens learn the truth, they will do to US Marines what the Iraqis never did--throw rose petals and give them big hugs.  If fact the current DPRK citizens will probably become some of the most hardcore pro-US people in the world, drastically changing South Korea politics yet again.  Even without US support ROK will win.  Not knowing anything about military matters, I have no idea how long it will take, but I assume what everyone is saying about a quick and short war will be correct as well.  But in that short duration of time, we are going to be seeing some gruesome hardcore concentrated hell.  chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons along with a pretty sizable number of really brainwashed troops who really will do with guns what pyong yang gymnasts do at mass games.

Eveyrone says Kim Jong Il is not dumb enough to start a war.  But how can I ignore the very long and comprehensive list of military provocations---really f*&#38;kng serious ones at that.  It wasn't so long ago that DPRK patrol boats crossed NLL and started a scuffle.  Not too long after that, they essentially surprise attacked ROK Navy.  We know and you know (and probably KJI too knows) ROK Navy is vastly superior to DPRK Navy, but despite that fact, they sunk and killed ROK sailors.  Did Jong Il order it?  Or did a bunch of pissed of hardcore DPRK soldiers take revenge in their own hands?  Either way you know the sh1t can go down at any moment.  And what if ROK sailors or soldiers at DMZ really got pissed off and returned fire instead of being just targets?  How fast can these things escalate?  Or how slow will we respond?  We really are on such an edge here.

I religiously read NK daily.  You can say I naively believe every word I see on that website.  They are reporting rise in food prices in North KOrea as Michael reports from Peters at helping hands.  We know they are also losing information control.  Formula for implosion unfortunately is the same formula for explosion and we can't really guess which way it's gonna go.  In fact, we have absolutely no control over this process, since information WILL go into DPRK and people over there WILL sooner or later do to KJI what he deserves.  But it's impossible to fathom if KJI can do a banzai charge before he croaks.  it's 50-50.  

heads up, yipee, no more worries about gulags/starvation/bombs/etc.  If tail, crap.  Lots and lots of carnage.  That's just the simple fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kunsanpsv, someguyinkorea, michael,</p>
<p>I hope you guys are right and I am being hyper sensitive.  Please dont&#8217; get me wrong, I don&#8217;t doubt that allied forces will win.  I will even go so far as to say that once the DPRK citizens learn the truth, they will do to US Marines what the Iraqis never did&#8211;throw rose petals and give them big hugs.  If fact the current DPRK citizens will probably become some of the most hardcore pro-US people in the world, drastically changing South Korea politics yet again.  Even without US support ROK will win.  Not knowing anything about military matters, I have no idea how long it will take, but I assume what everyone is saying about a quick and short war will be correct as well.  But in that short duration of time, we are going to be seeing some gruesome hardcore concentrated hell.  chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons along with a pretty sizable number of really brainwashed troops who really will do with guns what pyong yang gymnasts do at mass games.</p>
<p>Eveyrone says Kim Jong Il is not dumb enough to start a war.  But how can I ignore the very long and comprehensive list of military provocations&#8212;really f*&amp;kng serious ones at that.  It wasn&#8217;t so long ago that DPRK patrol boats crossed NLL and started a scuffle.  Not too long after that, they essentially surprise attacked ROK Navy.  We know and you know (and probably KJI too knows) ROK Navy is vastly superior to DPRK Navy, but despite that fact, they sunk and killed ROK sailors.  Did Jong Il order it?  Or did a bunch of pissed of hardcore DPRK soldiers take revenge in their own hands?  Either way you know the sh1t can go down at any moment.  And what if ROK sailors or soldiers at DMZ really got pissed off and returned fire instead of being just targets?  How fast can these things escalate?  Or how slow will we respond?  We really are on such an edge here.</p>
<p>I religiously read NK daily.  You can say I naively believe every word I see on that website.  They are reporting rise in food prices in North KOrea as Michael reports from Peters at helping hands.  We know they are also losing information control.  Formula for implosion unfortunately is the same formula for explosion and we can&#8217;t really guess which way it&#8217;s gonna go.  In fact, we have absolutely no control over this process, since information WILL go into DPRK and people over there WILL sooner or later do to KJI what he deserves.  But it&#8217;s impossible to fathom if KJI can do a banzai charge before he croaks.  it&#8217;s 50-50.  </p>
<p>heads up, yipee, no more worries about gulags/starvation/bombs/etc.  If tail, crap.  Lots and lots of carnage.  That&#8217;s just the simple fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendon Carr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendon Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 04:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course Hong Seok-Cheon is a decent guy -- I was being facetious. &lt;i&gt;Quelle horreur!&lt;/i&gt; was a signal of derision at the folks who had to get rid of him. Fags are people too, just better dressed and groomed, and more dancey, than the rest of us. And that's certainly no reason to get fired from &lt;b&gt;show business&lt;/b&gt;, of all things. Besides, who on Earth could have been surprised that guy was gay? To me the whole thing was absurd. But in Confucian Korea, it seems just as hard to be a gay guy as it is to be a chick. Being neither, though, I could be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Hong Seok-Cheon is a decent guy &#8212; I was being facetious. <i>Quelle horreur!</i> was a signal of derision at the folks who had to get rid of him. Fags are people too, just better dressed and groomed, and more dancey, than the rest of us. And that&#8217;s certainly no reason to get fired from <b>show business</b>, of all things. Besides, who on Earth could have been surprised that guy was gay? To me the whole thing was absurd. But in Confucian Korea, it seems just as hard to be a gay guy as it is to be a chick. Being neither, though, I could be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: R. Elgin</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. Elgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 03:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a sidenote, Hong seems to be a pretty decent fellow too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a sidenote, Hong seems to be a pretty decent fellow too.</p>
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		<title>By: Haisan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haisan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 03:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant that there was no word that was the equivalent. (If there were a male doenjangnyeo, I think Lee Sang-gi would win that award). 

Hong is doing fairly well these days, btw. He was in that movie PUZZLE. And at all the big parties at the Pusan Film Festival. Kind of amazing to see how fast Korea is changing in some ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant that there was no word that was the equivalent. (If there were a male doenjangnyeo, I think Lee Sang-gi would win that award). </p>
<p>Hong is doing fairly well these days, btw. He was in that movie PUZZLE. And at all the big parties at the Pusan Film Festival. Kind of amazing to see how fast Korea is changing in some ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendon Carr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendon Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 00:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who's that gay guy who got "fired from show business" a few years back for revealing that (&lt;i&gt;quelle horreur!&lt;/i&gt;) he was a homosexual? Hong Seok-Cheon? That's a male equivalent right there. Of course, he was a fag so under the official public morality he deserved it as much as the girls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who&#8217;s that gay guy who got &#8220;fired from show business&#8221; a few years back for revealing that (<i>quelle horreur!</i>) he was a homosexual? Hong Seok-Cheon? That&#8217;s a male equivalent right there. Of course, he was a fag so under the official public morality he deserved it as much as the girls.</p>
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		<title>By: OneFreeKorea &#187; Betraying Sergeant Chang</title>
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		<dc:creator>OneFreeKorea &#187; Betraying Sergeant Chang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What else can be said about something like this?  It&#8217;s easy enough to blame the girl on the phone, but in light of past events like this, the more salient questions are (1) whether she was just following orders. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What else can be said about something like this?  It&#8217;s easy enough to blame the girl on the phone, but in light of past events like this, the more salient questions are (1) whether she was just following orders. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Well, if Kim Il-sung said so&#8230; at The Marmot&#8217;s Hole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Well, if Kim Il-sung said so&#8230; at The Marmot&#8217;s Hole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Alright, moving on now, Han would like to put to rest the concerns of one worried commentator here at the Marmot&#8217;s Hole concerning rumors of an impending North Korean collapse: Park said, &#8220;Kim Jung-il is a very competent politician and has already completely wiped out conflict within the military and therefore eliminated the possibility of collapse. The North Korean military believes it will not crumble in the face of any attack, including from China.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Alright, moving on now, Han would like to put to rest the concerns of one worried commentator here at the Marmot&#8217;s Hole concerning rumors of an impending North Korean collapse: Park said, &#8220;Kim Jung-il is a very competent politician and has already completely wiped out conflict within the military and therefore eliminated the possibility of collapse. The North Korean military believes it will not crumble in the face of any attack, including from China.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Haisan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haisan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 09:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Notice a pattern? Yep, the target of all these expressions of online indignation are women&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Think it a coincidence that there is no male equivalent of doenjangnyeo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Notice a pattern? Yep, the target of all these expressions of online indignation are women</p></blockquote>
<p>Think it a coincidence that there is no male equivalent of doenjangnyeo?</p>
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		<title>By: Kunsanpcv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kunsanpcv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 05:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sumo294 is correct that many private corporations have heir own evacuation plans and they may work fine with enough warning.  But the best plans often go out the window under heavy artillery fire and these private plans may not work very well after the shooting starts.  What is the guesstimate, 10,000 Nork tubes within range of Seoul?  I also have a guess that the US embassy and Yongsan are sited in by a good percentage of those tubes, so standing in line with your 8 gallons of potable water and luggage by the embassy or South Post gates may get a little dicey even for folks in the private sector.

Also, as concerns downtrodden Korean women, any of you guys married to a Korean woman?  Can she take care of herself (and you) if she needs to?  I rest my case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sumo294 is correct that many private corporations have heir own evacuation plans and they may work fine with enough warning.  But the best plans often go out the window under heavy artillery fire and these private plans may not work very well after the shooting starts.  What is the guesstimate, 10,000 Nork tubes within range of Seoul?  I also have a guess that the US embassy and Yongsan are sited in by a good percentage of those tubes, so standing in line with your 8 gallons of potable water and luggage by the embassy or South Post gates may get a little dicey even for folks in the private sector.</p>
<p>Also, as concerns downtrodden Korean women, any of you guys married to a Korean woman?  Can she take care of herself (and you) if she needs to?  I rest my case.</p>
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