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Cindy Sheehan in Korea
This entry was written by Robert Koehler, posted on November 22, 2006 at 4:22 pm, filed under ROK-US Issues, Stupid Foreigner Tricks. Bookmark the permalink. Follow any comments here with the RSS feed for this post.
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She’s selling it?
Apparently from what I have read, she was waving it around demanding to be allowed on post as if an American passport should be good enough to be allowed on post.
Whoa, I just noticed her friend’s sign: “bsae” expansion–what a “moran.” Obviously a domestically produced protest sign. Highting!
GI KOrea,
That’s pretty funny. I bet she was really wanting some Taco Bell…too bad, so sad :).
I smell at least a 50 commenter once the Sean Penn fan club shows up.
I wish that dumb bitch Cindy Sheehan the best of luck with her stupid crusade — both to withdraw US forces from Korea and thereby put an end to Georgie Bushy’s warmongering (the Korean War and armistice were his fault, dontcha know), and for the American passport to be good enough to get on the bsae and eat nachos. I need nachos. And Twizzlers.
Here’s hoping she sticks around for a while. The tourist visa with which she and her friends entered Korea (doubtlessly she came on a tourist visa, since Cindy Sheehan is consistently uninformed) does not permit political activity. Foreigners are not allowed political activity at all — it’s illegal for us. She should be arrested and deported. That ought to make her happy: She gets further attention and can blame another thing that’s not his fault on Georgie Bushy.
BTW, DPRK Studies wins the headline contest: “All your bsae are belong to us”
Wait a minute, I want a chalupa! Damn imperialists let me on the base!
The Sean Penn fan club is currently busy cleaning out the offices of the Rush Limbaugh fan club — as per the explicit instructions of the American people — and has little time to care about Cindy Sheehan and her dumbass world publicity tour.
I saw her this morning on Korean news, and if I remember correctly, she also opposes the US-Korea Free Trade Aggreement (FTA). I wonder if she knows anything about Korean issues? Whatever good intentions she may have had in the beginning, she seems to have turned into goofball who will protest almost anything to get on TV.
Jay North, former child actor star of the series Dennis the Menace, and tennis superstar Martina Navratilova protesting over the US government’s decision requiring passports to contain sexual preference information?
hukt on fonix werkt fer me!
What an idiot/tool Ms. Sheehan has become…
or always was?
I just mentioned this story to a a Korean co-worker, and she just leaned over my shoulder and asked innocently “is that a she or he?”
BWA-HA-HA!
Dude, you don’t know how many times I’ve wished a US passport was all I needed to get on base and get me some Taco Bell…….
Catalogued as “Stupid Foreigner Tricks” - ’nuff said.
She may be a tool and not even understand what’s she’s doing; but, in the long run, I don’t think America can stay in Korea even if it wanted to. For the most part, for better or worst, East Asia is going in a different direction altogether. I don’t see US as part of East Asia’s future.
I tried to see it but I can’t. America’s foreign policy is too inconsistent, and I don’t see another great leader like Ronald Reagan in any foreseeable future.That’s one of the reason why I believe America is in decline. There is no resolve.
On the other hand, China has more patience. I don’t see them ever giving up on North Korea. They have more patience than America, and time is on their side. I would say China is looking forward to a day when Greater Korea becomes a vessel state that it always was.
Also, China does not have idiots like George Bush Jr running around the world like some stupid chicken with his head cut off blowing things up looking for fictitious WMD’s and screwing International relations that took generations to build.
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*iheartblueballs: You avatar disturbs me rather greatly.
Ms. Sheehan has voluntarily cheapened the accomplishments of her own son, and I think that is what is truly sad.
“I just mentioned this story to a a Korean co-worker, and she just leaned over my shoulder and asked innocently “is that a she or he?”
BWA-HA-HA!”
Korean women are the ugliest of all in Asia. Look at their heads and jaws. They look like Chuck Zito.
This woman seems to be a bit mental; showing up over here as if Korea has anything to do with her son. It is quite strange.
She-Who-Sullies-Own-Son’s-Sacrifice has become an anti-American tool of the Chomsky sort with obviously no clue as to what she is doing. But, by happy coincidence she has stumbled upon a cause I believe in. If she can help get American troops out of this country sooner I’m all for it. In the meantime, keep up the great signage.
What exactly is China’s leaders doing for the world besides limiting freedoms to their own people, threatening and oppressing their neighbors, and sending North Korean refugees back to gulags and death in North Korea?
And speaking of chickens with their heads cut off, no one can compare to Roh Mu-hyun and his party of misfits in that regard. Their simpleton policies and anti-Japanese and anti-US rhetoric has lost Korea much of the trust and prestige she had built up in the interational community. Before Roh Mu-hyun, Korea was on her way to becoming a world-class nation, but now Korea seems to be on her way to joining the ranks of the many third-rate nations of the world. Korea has become the hub of stupid diplomacy and anti-US policies.
Cindy is taking a huge crap on the grave of her Son. This twat should be filled with industrial strength tile grout so as to NEVER spawn again. Send her to N.K., we need Pyongyang Cindy like a Hanoi Jane! Ignorant people with too much time on their hands.
I don’t happen to agree with her ongoing protests and I doubt she knows shit about the issues in Korea - not to mention the extreme beliefs and violent behavior of some of the protesters she’s probably appearing alongside - but it seems to me that Cindy Sheehan may not be doing all that well. I think I’ll refrain from slamming a woman who lost her son and, as a result, is obviously still pretty messed up. As a parent, I feel sorry for her, and as stupid as I believe a lot of her activities are, I’ll cut her some slack.
I think that anyone disagreeing with her should take her to task on her methods and/or her political views, but not rip into her on a personal level - it just comes across as sounding mean. Calling a grieving mother, “Dumb bitch”, “idiot/tool”, and making negative comments about her appearance make those people commenting look like total pricks, plus take away from what may otherwise be good points.
Did Nick Berg’s father catch this much grief for his comments critcal of the US, visits to Korea, etc. following his son’s beheading? Not sure that he did.
Missed including “twat” as it was posted eleven minutes prior to mine. Classy.
Look Rhoclue, a lot of people lost children in the 911 incident; you don’t see crusaders on fool’s errands protesting United or American Airlines.
Cindy Sheehan is a trader and should be afforded the ruthless criticism that she deserves. Oh, and the post traumatic thing can only go so far. You have been watching too much Oprah.
“Look Rhoclue, a lot of people lost children in the 911 incident; you don’t see crusaders on fool’s errands protesting United or American Airlines.”
Yes, but wouldn’t that be her “constitutional right as an American” to do so? Besides, you should attack the message, not the messenger, if you don’t like what you hear.
No idea where you are coming from buddy, but now that you mention it Chuck Zito does look like an Itallian Cindy Sheehan: picture
And the average Korean knocks out the average filipino hands down. Not that there aren’t good looking filipino women out there, but if you want to be general…
damn links: picture
or here if its being filtered: http://www.signofthetimes.com/.....ckzito.jpg
While she seems like she has gotten caught up with the wrong crowd, she is still the mother of one brave soldier who made the ultimate sacrifice, and we should all accord her some respect for that reason.
It would be a much better world if more Americans died fighting for their country.
As much as I may hate to admit it, I have to partially agree with dlatn. I don’t mind people criticizing her—some of stuff she’s done has been, well, questionable, and while a lot of parents have lost sons in Iraq, few do the things she does, even those who are active against the war. Having said that, she did lose a son in a foreign war, something I pray never happens to me or to anyone. I guess what I’m trying to say is perhaps “twat” is not the best term to describe her, regardless of the nonsense she may or may not engage in.
haha, that’s nice. When do we stop cocaine/crack/heroin? When is that going to happen? Why is cocaine available all over the USA?
I agree with the majority here - she has really shown herself to be detestable. When she first began her work, I put her in the big “?” box I try to keep most things in until I have enough information to form a tentative conclusion on. After awhile in her protests in the US and the quotes about it, I thought she had decided to let herself be used as a tool and/or was a tool herself (with shifting ideas of what kind of tool I meant in those two usages….). By now, I had figured she was pretty much cluesless and whether she suffered the great loss of her son or not, she had shown herself to be someone I looked down on. Now, seeing her in Korea just makes me think she is beyond pathetic.
Because people buy it. It’s pretty simple economics.
Her prominent display of her American passport suggested a classical allusion, an ironic one indeed:
“….It was once a proud saying, all the way from Britain to Egypt: ‘Cives Romanus Sum’: ‘I am a Roman Citizen’. It meant you had certain rights that would help guarantee your personal freedom, especially before a court of law…”
Concur with wedge’s view of her efforts. Bring the legions home to America, we’re a republic not an empire. It should now fall to Koreans to provide their own guarantees of personal freedom.
railwaycharm, what does trying to be critical of people in a mature fashion, not to mention trying to show a little human decency, have to do with watching Oprah?
By the way, you do see crusaders on fool’s errands - many of whom lost family - making noise about Sept.11, though their criticism tends to focus on what they perceive as being US Government action or inaction, pre- or post-Sept 11. (They usually leave the airlines out of it, true enough, presumably as airlines have a limited role in making and implementing national policy.)
I don’t buy into the wackier conspiracy theories about those attacks any more than I believe in many of Sheehan’s antics, but I’d rather use terms like “misguided”, “mistaken”, or “inaccurate”, as opposed to “twat”, “bitch”, “tool”, or “trader” (was that supposed to be “traitor”?) in describing people who lost family members or friends in either a war or terrorist attack.
Nobody’s saying it’s OK for a grief-stricken family member to raise funds for Iraqi insurgents, go postal on the home front, or shoot the President. For the most part, we’re talking about freedom of speech; in my opinion, something that sets America and a few other places around the globe apart from the rest.
Admittedly, if Cindy Sheehan has the right to say what one disagrees with, by all means one also has the right to disagree with her. However, some of the criticism directed against her has been in especially poor taste, and could also serve the purpose of confirming in the minds of some the usual stereotypes about her critics. Her critics can do better and be smarter.
The US ambassador attempted to speak at Yonsei campus years ago when I was an undergrad there. Some students in the business dept blocked his way with a sign saying “GO HOME SUN OF BEACH.”
I recommend everyone read who Casey Sheehan is:
http://www.blackfive.net/main/.....alist.html
After reading about his life and profile, ask yourself if he would approve of his mother’s actions? Maybe that is why his story is never brought up by her or the media.
Cindy Sheehan deserves ZERO slack for her son’s death; it does not excuse her behavior. People like that do get air time on Al Jazeera – local viewers in OIF actually know who she is. Just because she can say something doesn’t mean she should, and I’ve no trouble calling her the idiot she is for it.
Sheehan lost me a long time ago–she was happy with Bush’s explanation of her son’s sacrifice in a face-to-face meeting before she rejected it. She is ghoulishly living off her dead son way beyond her sell-by date.
You guys are cutting way too much slack here. How about I call her a “misguided tool?” Is that OK? The fact that her sister sports an obviously Korean-created sign shows that she can now add “tool of Nork-loving radicals” to the long list. Useful idiots indeed.
Cindy Sheehan is a disgusting ghoul who seized upon her good fortune — the death of her brave patriot son — and consequent “fame” in the lefty community to crap all over the memory of her child. Except for the fact that Spc. Sheehan was her son, she loved him, and he was killed in action in Iraq, everything else out of her mouth has been a lie. This includes her embrace of Hugo Chavez, and now her visit to Korea to address the problem of the bsae. We should respect her and treat her antics with kid gloves? The hell with that. I agree with the rest of her friends and family — Cindy Sheehan should be denounced and shunned for what she’s doing.
Just curious…How many of you Sheehan haters have kids?
Here’s my take on it.
1) Children are not supposed to die before their parents, and therefore it’s only natural for a mother to greave her child’s death. If this is the way she chooses to do, then so be it. Just remember, you don’t need to agree with her political views to empathize with her pain. It’s probably the worst thing a person can go through. Those of you who are parents will understand.
2) By calling her names for exercising her freedom of speech and association, you are making a bigger mockery of her son’s death than she has or ever will.
I am a father and a veteran. If my daughters choose to serve and — God forbid — something happens to them, you can be damn sure I would not use their deaths to turn myself into a celebrity. It’s just plain wrong.
If I had kids, and who really knows for sure if there are any out there :-), and they died for their country, I would quietly respect and be proud of that. It seems that in 2006 a lot of people have forgotten that freedom isn’t free, or worse, that our freedom isn’t worth anyone’s life. Well, freedom isn’t free and thank God that people like Casey Sheehan are willing to die for our freedom.
A veteran? Where? Grenada? Panama?
It might be wrong, but calling her names for exercising her “constitutional right as an American” is no better than what she’s doing, is it?
A person has a constitutional right to do a lot of stupid things; calling them stupid for doing them isn’t the same as doing those things, or hypocritical. Eject the politically correct BS already.
Someone with moral myopis wrote:
If this is her way of “grieving”, then the cunt’s debasement deserves to be pointed out in no uncertain terms. Doing so doesn’t infringe her freedom of speech, and she or anyone who thinks its does obviously doesn’t have the courage of their own misguided convictions.
So, it’s basically:
a) Easier to disparage the person than counter their argument
b) Freedom of speech is only for those that I agree with
…as found on the page next to “straw-man” in the little book of dirty debating tricks.
While I do not agree with much of what Cindy has done (especially this one), I’ve learned nothing from these comments other than many of her detractors have poor taste.
To rhoclue and all the other clueless;
Tell me what protesting Military base expansion in Korea and her Son’s death have in common? Sheehan is a sh*t disturber and a shameless hack for her Son’s gift to his country. I have two kids and the last thing I would want is to see them in harms way. I certainly would not embarrass their deaths or sell my country down the river. I am shocked you can’t see it. Tell me, are you wearing Birkenstocks?
Fifty! (See comment #5.) Do I get a prized?
a) I, for one, don’t see the need to explain it when I make fun of KCNA articles, either.
b) Who stated or even implied any such thing about free speech?
c) Very ironic to speak of “straw man” fallacies while engaging in one (i.e., the ‘free speech’ implication).
So now Birkenstock wearers and Oprah watchers are part of the same gang. Interesting - I never made that obvious connection till it was pointed out. Anyway, what Sheehan is doing has NOTHING to do with the base issue whatsoever. (I personally think the base activists are among the biggest assholes on the peninsula.) Look, I don’t agree with her issues or with what she’s doing, and I suspect she isn’t playing with a full deck at the moment. I can see what you think she’s doing; my point has been that she may be incapable of seeing such things with as much clarity as the average person! As already stated, just thought the attacks on her were a little harsh, and while not a legal expert, don’t know if she has committed any obvious acts of treason.
What’s wrong with Birkenstocks?
Yeah, what’s wrong with Birkenstocks? Beats wearing those blue rubber flip-flops.
Richardson said:
“c) Very ironic to speak of “straw man” fallacies while engaging in one (i.e., the ‘free speech’ implication)”
touche’
Guilty as charged, I have to admit.
Rather, I mean to aim more at the charge “treason” for doing something that is critical of the U.S. government, especially when concerned with foreign policy. Thankfully, we have freedom of speech to protect the minority opinion against charges of treason.
Well, mostly. McCarthism was rather ugly.
Well, I’m surprised at the admission – a very rare thing.
I don’t think what Sheehan is doing is treason, it’s just moronic and very likely it would be against the wishes of her son.
Cindy Sheehan is from Vacaville, California, about 40 miles down the road from where I live in Rio Linda. I have no intention of denouncing or shunning her. If the opportunity presents itself, I will instead give her a big hug. She has lost her son, and is now divorced from her husband of 28 years. I choose to to cut her some slack. As far as I’m concerned, she’s earned the right to say or do whatever she needs to as she works through these losses.
Wedge: . . .
You are being droll, no?
“kpmsprtd”, it is only in America where everyone has the freedom to be as stupid as they want to be, not in Korea. Ms. Sheehan should go home and practice her hard earned freedoms there.
Really? Ordinarily, to “earn” some right one would have to do something. What is it about Cindy Sheehan’s conduct that merits such approval? She hasn’t “earned” anything except opprobrium due a person who lies and distorts facts, and dishonors the memory of her conveniently-dead son. How did she get so lucky as to now have Absolute Moral Authority to do whatever the hell she wants?
Anyway, if you want to find her to give her that hug, follow the smell of patchouli and be on the lookout for news cameras.
Maybe in the beginning I could try to understand what she was doing in light of her loss. Now, however, it seems to be more like a love of the spotlight. I would not be surprised if there is also some money in it for her as well. Not too mention it is highly disrespectful of her son and the choices he made.
It has gone to her head and now she just comes accross as kind of sad and pathetic.
What’s wrong with Birkenstocks?
Well for one thing they are ugly. They are comfortable, just like the convenient death of Cindy Sh*thand’s Son. I bet the worms are spitting him out as I type!
Bleeding hearts!
That’s just uncalled for.
Ya…they are not that ugly
Yeah, no accounting for taste.
Brendon says:
Is this really true? How is freedom of speech and other rights interpreted in regards to non-citizens in Korea?
(In Japan, a Supreme Court case from the 1970s permitted political activity for all foreigners resident in Japan, who from their position of residents are assumed to hold “an equal interest in regular political affairs.”)
Ask the Mad Kraut about what his visa permits.
I just don’t understand why based on my comments, it was insinuated that I, among others, was a Birkenstock wearing, Oprah watching, bleeding heart liberal. I added the last one myself - I presume that was the implication - but I can assure you that I don’t wear those sandals (not that they’re ugly or anything) nor watch that woman’s show (well, not since Dr. Phil left…)
Brendon said:
“She hasn’t “earned” anything except opprobrium due a person who lies and distorts facts, and dishonors the memory of her conveniently-dead son. ”
‘Conveniently-dead son’? Brendon, that is nasty. Disagree with her political views and tactics, but don’t blow off the violent death of a child. As a parent yourself, you should know better. Until recently, my brother flew missions into Iraq as a reservist. He supports the war while I have been extremely anti-war since the invasion. Had he been shot down or died otherwise, I would have had a very hard time coping with my anger over his precious life wasted.
Sonagi,
Your brother’s service is appreciated and necessary. What Cindy She-Man is doing is prostituting her Son’s death for the democrat party. She is a piece of shat and should keep her big mouth shut, get a lip wax, and go back to California. If you can not recognize that her abuse of free speech is a cancer on the war effort, I don’t know what to tell you. Many people do not like the war; there are more constructive ways to support your anger than lashing out with harebrained protests and defaming your dead Son. Volunteer and the VA, collect signatures, there is a bevy of ideas that does not harm the country.
kpmsprtd has a point. Name calling and accusations are inappropriate. Let me reiterate. She has given up the most precious thing in her life for her country. Don’t know about your own contributions, but I think that all the years I’ve spent in the armed forces and as a government employee pales in comparision to her loss and sacrifice. If someone has the right to voice her opinion, it is certainly is her and any of thousands of war mothers, widows, widowers, and orphans.
If she, or anyone else wants in so badly, they can gain entry to the houses abutting the main wall. From those hidden confines they can breach a hole through or under the thin walls. Also, near the “security area”, there a sturdy fence she can burrow under, and the tall, uncut grass can hide a company. Along with snipers on the apartment buildings, she can rain leaflets and peace balloons on every MI soldier in the area.
In the US, states and localities have rolled back eminent domain rulings, but in the ROK, what do courts and provinces do? Exactly what crimes did the US and ROK commit? Exactly where is there a ROK government who can explain to its own citizens why it decided to do what it did, and all without blaming anything else but its own military unpreparedness?
Exactly how long after US troops leave does Mrs. Sheehan believe it will take before Pyongyang agitates for a rematch, and the region is destabilized? Why stay? Because the US record on establishing client states is miserable. From Cuba (OK, it was nice) to DR, Haiti, Nicaragua, to the RP and Iraq, America is a dismal model compared to Britain. The ROK and Japan are the best work America has done, and the Marxists, Maoists, and Stalinists whom their own idols would disinherit don’t deserve a cheap victory just for being assholes for 50 years. Besides, if Japan and the ROK don’t work, China never will.
It’s that. or the US builds a wall around the Americas, arms to the teeth (and pays for it), tears out every dissenting regime in the hemisphere (and pays for it), and dares the world to interfere.
Sorry, forward deployment is cheaper, and the world buys more cheeseburgers. Sheehan’s idealism is too expensive for me.
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