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	<title>Comments on: U.S. paper expresses &#8216;naked anti-Korean sentiment,&#8217; calls Japan &#8216;real ally&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: boshintang</title>
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		<dc:creator>boshintang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I lived in the US for a while and let me tell you how much racism I encountered&lt;/i&gt;

You obviously have never been to the French suburbs. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I lived in the US for a while and let me tell you how much racism I encountered</i></p>
<p>You obviously have never been to the French suburbs. <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Suh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 05:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's anti-US sentiment? Cry me a fucking river the whole world has anti-US sentiment. This is what happens when you go do things without consideration.

I lived in the US for a while and let me tell you how much racism I encountered so you Americans crying about anti-US sentiment is a joke at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s anti-US sentiment? Cry me a fucking river the whole world has anti-US sentiment. This is what happens when you go do things without consideration.</p>
<p>I lived in the US for a while and let me tell you how much racism I encountered so you Americans crying about anti-US sentiment is a joke at best.</p>
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		<title>By: Origami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Origami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul H.

My guess is that the Dems will take a quietly “conservative” stance toward any talk of US troop withdrawl from Korea, to compensate for a risk of looking “weak” on defense in general, while they try to figure out as a party just how hard to push for a withdrawl strategy from Iraq.

Too bad, as we (the US) long ago met the conditions for a ground troop withdrawl from Korea –that is to say, the very same conditions that the current US administration has imposed on itself for an Iraq withdrawal! (Ie, the achievement of a stable democratic government). 

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Problem in Iraq is that too many American kids are getting blown up for OIL. I think people are catching on to Bush's cruddy little 
incursion to help out his oil buddies. That bastard's going to rot in Hell. That crap had nothing to do with terrorism.

Anyway, I was just trying to explain to Robert that Republican Party maybe finished in the US. I see Democrats setting the foreign policy agenda from now on.

What I would say is that the N. Korean problem is overblown. As long as the two Koreas are divided, there will be nothing but finger pointing going on and lot of those fingers are pointing US's way these days. I think it's best if US can keep a low profile.

I believe US is thinking of reducing the numbers down to 20,000 forces and moving those forces a bit south. Rest of the forces can move to Guam. I believe flexibility is what US wants anyway.  

The Aircraft Carrier Forces are also interested in relocating to Guam. I know 

 http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/10/11/america/NA_GEN_US_Military_NKorea_Iraq.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul H.</p>
<p>My guess is that the Dems will take a quietly “conservative” stance toward any talk of US troop withdrawl from Korea, to compensate for a risk of looking “weak” on defense in general, while they try to figure out as a party just how hard to push for a withdrawl strategy from Iraq.</p>
<p>Too bad, as we (the US) long ago met the conditions for a ground troop withdrawl from Korea –that is to say, the very same conditions that the current US administration has imposed on itself for an Iraq withdrawal! (Ie, the achievement of a stable democratic government). </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Problem in Iraq is that too many American kids are getting blown up for OIL. I think people are catching on to Bush&#8217;s cruddy little<br />
incursion to help out his oil buddies. That bastard&#8217;s going to rot in Hell. That crap had nothing to do with terrorism.</p>
<p>Anyway, I was just trying to explain to Robert that Republican Party maybe finished in the US. I see Democrats setting the foreign policy agenda from now on.</p>
<p>What I would say is that the N. Korean problem is overblown. As long as the two Koreas are divided, there will be nothing but finger pointing going on and lot of those fingers are pointing US&#8217;s way these days. I think it&#8217;s best if US can keep a low profile.</p>
<p>I believe US is thinking of reducing the numbers down to 20,000 forces and moving those forces a bit south. Rest of the forces can move to Guam. I believe flexibility is what US wants anyway.  </p>
<p>The Aircraft Carrier Forces are also interested in relocating to Guam. I know </p>
<p> <a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/10/11/america/NA_GEN_US_Military_NKorea_Iraq.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.iht.com/articles/ap.....a_Iraq.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, as I write it's early AM 8 Nov here in CONUS and the Democrats have won a convincing majority in the House and are very close to achieving a one-vote majority in the Senate.  Dem-sympathetic commentators on US cable TV (MSNBC) are feeling pretty good about it, but all the commentary for the foreign policy reasons for this resulf focusesis on Iraq, not on reaction to Korea. 

But the Nork nuclear test and previous ballistic missile test have brought the issue of Korea to the forefront too for the US public lately.  As an interested Korea observer here in CONUS, I fully agree with Last that the US public in general does not yet comprehend the depth of anti-American sentiment in ROK.

I'm not sure what the new Dem House and Senate leadership will have to say about Korea, but it'll be interesting to see what (if anything) they may say about it over the next few days.  

My guess is that the Dems will take a quietly "conservative" stance toward any talk of US troop withdrawl from Korea, to compensate for a risk of looking "weak" on defense in general, while they try to figure out as a party just how hard to push for a withdrawl strategy from Iraq.  

Too bad, as we (the US) long ago met the conditions for a ground troop withdrawl from Korea --that is to say, the very same conditions that the current US administration has imposed on itself for an Iraq withdrawal!  (Ie, the achievement of a stable democratic government).  

As far as I can tell, this is an original observation on my part.  That is to say, I have yet to see any commentator on TV or in the media make it -- or any politician from either US major party. 

Too bad, we need to bring them out and back to US territory.  Unlike the newspaper commentator, I think we can certainly support ROK (and Japan) defense from offshore, with only air and naval forces -- to the extent ROK still wants it.  

May it soon happen.   

BTW, Robert, ref: your number #13 -- it's "per se".  One of those common "straight Latin" phrases that has made it into colloquial English (like "quid pro quo").

Main Entry: per se
Function: adverb
Pronunciation: (")p&#38;r-'sA also per-'sA or (")p&#38;r-'se
Etymology: Latin
: by, of, or in itself or oneself or themselves : as such : INTRINSICALLY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as I write it&#8217;s early AM 8 Nov here in CONUS and the Democrats have won a convincing majority in the House and are very close to achieving a one-vote majority in the Senate.  Dem-sympathetic commentators on US cable TV (MSNBC) are feeling pretty good about it, but all the commentary for the foreign policy reasons for this resulf focusesis on Iraq, not on reaction to Korea. </p>
<p>But the Nork nuclear test and previous ballistic missile test have brought the issue of Korea to the forefront too for the US public lately.  As an interested Korea observer here in CONUS, I fully agree with Last that the US public in general does not yet comprehend the depth of anti-American sentiment in ROK.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what the new Dem House and Senate leadership will have to say about Korea, but it&#8217;ll be interesting to see what (if anything) they may say about it over the next few days.  </p>
<p>My guess is that the Dems will take a quietly &#8220;conservative&#8221; stance toward any talk of US troop withdrawl from Korea, to compensate for a risk of looking &#8220;weak&#8221; on defense in general, while they try to figure out as a party just how hard to push for a withdrawl strategy from Iraq.  </p>
<p>Too bad, as we (the US) long ago met the conditions for a ground troop withdrawl from Korea &#8211;that is to say, the very same conditions that the current US administration has imposed on itself for an Iraq withdrawal!  (Ie, the achievement of a stable democratic government).  </p>
<p>As far as I can tell, this is an original observation on my part.  That is to say, I have yet to see any commentator on TV or in the media make it &#8212; or any politician from either US major party. </p>
<p>Too bad, we need to bring them out and back to US territory.  Unlike the newspaper commentator, I think we can certainly support ROK (and Japan) defense from offshore, with only air and naval forces &#8212; to the extent ROK still wants it.  </p>
<p>May it soon happen.   </p>
<p>BTW, Robert, ref: your number #13 &#8212; it&#8217;s &#8220;per se&#8221;.  One of those common &#8220;straight Latin&#8221; phrases that has made it into colloquial English (like &#8220;quid pro quo&#8221;).</p>
<p>Main Entry: per se<br />
Function: adverb<br />
Pronunciation: (&#8221;)p&amp;r-&#8217;sA also per-&#8217;sA or (&#8221;)p&amp;r-&#8217;se<br />
Etymology: Latin<br />
: by, of, or in itself or oneself or themselves : as such : INTRINSICALLY</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Koehler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Koehler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Origami, I'm getting the feeling you have issues with immigration.

What U.S. immigration policy has to do with U.S. security commitments to South Korea, I'm not entirely certain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Origami, I&#8217;m getting the feeling you have issues with immigration.</p>
<p>What U.S. immigration policy has to do with U.S. security commitments to South Korea, I&#8217;m not entirely certain.</p>
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		<title>By: Origami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Origami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to tell you this, but America is turning into another Mexico even as we speak. Believe me, I take no joy in saying this, but there is not going to be anything left here in few years. 


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1734495/posts#comment?q=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to tell you this, but America is turning into another Mexico even as we speak. Believe me, I take no joy in saying this, but there is not going to be anything left here in few years. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1734495/posts#comment?q=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.freerepublic.com/fo.....omment?q=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Koehler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Koehler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you say so, Origami.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you say so, Origami.</p>
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		<title>By: Origami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Origami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don't know if recent elections in US will change things. It seems like Democrats will be in Charge. 'Wouldn't surprise me with recent demographic changes in the Southwest, Republican Party as a whole is coming to an end. 

I predict Democratic President in '08.

I think it's about time we start asking S. Koreans what they want rather than what we want. It's obvious American foreign policy is 50 years too late. This is no longer a Cold War issue. The world is changing. China is not our enemy, it's much more complicated than that now.

If South Korea's foreign policy no longer intersect with US there isn't much we can do. They need to learn to figure out their problems on their own. They'll probably screw up as much as we have in IRAQ but it's their problem not ours, but telling them "to do this or else," type of mentality don't wash anymore.

America has serious problems of our own. I seriously doubt we will be able to solve them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t know if recent elections in US will change things. It seems like Democrats will be in Charge. &#8216;Wouldn&#8217;t surprise me with recent demographic changes in the Southwest, Republican Party as a whole is coming to an end. </p>
<p>I predict Democratic President in &#8216;08.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s about time we start asking S. Koreans what they want rather than what we want. It&#8217;s obvious American foreign policy is 50 years too late. This is no longer a Cold War issue. The world is changing. China is not our enemy, it&#8217;s much more complicated than that now.</p>
<p>If South Korea&#8217;s foreign policy no longer intersect with US there isn&#8217;t much we can do. They need to learn to figure out their problems on their own. They&#8217;ll probably screw up as much as we have in IRAQ but it&#8217;s their problem not ours, but telling them &#8220;to do this or else,&#8221; type of mentality don&#8217;t wash anymore.</p>
<p>America has serious problems of our own. I seriously doubt we will be able to solve them.</p>
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		<title>By: Irrawaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irrawaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gaemee,  I meant Korea is a little country, just like my 5 year-old is little when he screams for attention just for the hell of it.  And I spent 9 years on the DMZ after doing a master's at Stanford, then studying Korean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaemee,  I meant Korea is a little country, just like my 5 year-old is little when he screams for attention just for the hell of it.  And I spent 9 years on the DMZ after doing a master&#8217;s at Stanford, then studying Korean.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 02:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Origami--good points, I just think China has serious, maybe deadly, internal problems, Japan's status will decline rapidly and the Koreas are their own worst enemy, so the region will not eclipse the U.S. in stature or influence. So there :)

As for the rest--it's the current S.K. government's misuse (or non-use) of the alliance with the U.S. for Korea's own best interests that is frustrating to see, and S.K. doesn't need to be "punished" or boycotted because it isn't "grateful," it just needs some real leadership that recognizes what's at stake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Origami&#8211;good points, I just think China has serious, maybe deadly, internal problems, Japan&#8217;s status will decline rapidly and the Koreas are their own worst enemy, so the region will not eclipse the U.S. in stature or influence. So there <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for the rest&#8211;it&#8217;s the current S.K. government&#8217;s misuse (or non-use) of the alliance with the U.S. for Korea&#8217;s own best interests that is frustrating to see, and S.K. doesn&#8217;t need to be &#8220;punished&#8221; or boycotted because it isn&#8217;t &#8220;grateful,&#8221; it just needs some real leadership that recognizes what&#8217;s at stake.</p>
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