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	<title>Comments on: OK, so the Nogeun-ri film is complete</title>
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		<title>By: mavsman15</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/26/ok-so-the-nogeun-ri-film-is-complete/#comment-124236</link>
		<dc:creator>mavsman15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well it is now Dec 2007 and I have no idea if, or ever, this film will be released. Gi Korea has completed a wonderful work on destroying the lies about this incident. 

Any one when this film will ever get released.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well it is now Dec 2007 and I have no idea if, or ever, this film will be released. Gi Korea has completed a wonderful work on destroying the lies about this incident. </p>
<p>Any one when this film will ever get released.</p>
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		<title>By: AP Reporter Charles Hanley Responds to GI Korea Criticism at ROK Drop</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/26/ok-so-the-nogeun-ri-film-is-complete/#comment-98818</link>
		<dc:creator>AP Reporter Charles Hanley Responds to GI Korea Criticism at ROK Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 03:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from May of 2006 as evidence that his views on what happened at No Gun-ri are validated. I had a good debate with Haisan over at the Marmot&#8217;s Hole over Handley&#8217;s article earlier this year that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] from May of 2006 as evidence that his views on what happened at No Gun-ri are validated. I had a good debate with Haisan over at the Marmot&#8217;s Hole over Handley&#8217;s article earlier this year that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: No Gun-ri Movie Completed at ROK Drop</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/26/ok-so-the-nogeun-ri-film-is-complete/#comment-98762</link>
		<dc:creator>No Gun-ri Movie Completed at ROK Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 09:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Marmot&#8217;s Hole is reporting that a Korean film about the events of the No Gun-ri tragedy has been completed: After many news reports and documentaries about Nogeun-ri came out, director Lee Sang-woo felt obliged to make a fictional film to tell the story. He wanted to ask the U.S. government whether there was no other way than war, a question still relevant today. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Marmot&#8217;s Hole is reporting that a Korean film about the events of the No Gun-ri tragedy has been completed: After many news reports and documentaries about Nogeun-ri came out, director Lee Sang-woo felt obliged to make a fictional film to tell the story. He wanted to ask the U.S. government whether there was no other way than war, a question still relevant today. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: No Gun-ri the Comic Book, Coming to Europe at ROK Drop</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/26/ok-so-the-nogeun-ri-film-is-complete/#comment-90941</link>
		<dc:creator>No Gun-ri the Comic Book, Coming to Europe at ROK Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at Nogun-ri that can be read here.  For some good debate go through the comments section in this Marmot&#8217;s Hole posting where I lay out many of my viewpoints.  The bottom line on this is that I higly recommend that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at Nogun-ri that can be read here.  For some good debate go through the comments section in this Marmot&#8217;s Hole posting where I lay out many of my viewpoints.  The bottom line on this is that I higly recommend that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/26/ok-so-the-nogeun-ri-film-is-complete/#comment-54000</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 03:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baduk, you da' man.  Please be sure to share this with the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparations_for_slavery" rel="nofollow"&gt;NAACP&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baduk, you da&#8217; man.  Please be sure to share this with the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparations_for_slavery" rel="nofollow">NAACP</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/26/ok-so-the-nogeun-ri-film-is-complete/#comment-53998</link>
		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 02:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there should be a statue of limitation against war crimes and reparations.   Ten years sounds good to me.   If a country cannot put a complaint together ten years after a war, it should just clam down.   Ten years seems to be fair.

This Noguenri bullshit must stop.  Is there any survivors who should be paid?  Who was actually killed and who are their "recorded" descendants?  I do not agree with paying everyone in the region without solid evidence, as it was done in Kwangju Democratic Massacre (which is another bullshit).

Just fo'gedaboutit!  Ten years is good enough time to make complaints.   I don't like people digging up things done 50,100,200 and 1000 years ago and asking for reparation.

Enough is enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there should be a statue of limitation against war crimes and reparations.   Ten years sounds good to me.   If a country cannot put a complaint together ten years after a war, it should just clam down.   Ten years seems to be fair.</p>
<p>This Noguenri bullshit must stop.  Is there any survivors who should be paid?  Who was actually killed and who are their &#8220;recorded&#8221; descendants?  I do not agree with paying everyone in the region without solid evidence, as it was done in Kwangju Democratic Massacre (which is another bullshit).</p>
<p>Just fo&#8217;gedaboutit!  Ten years is good enough time to make complaints.   I don&#8217;t like people digging up things done 50,100,200 and 1000 years ago and asking for reparation.</p>
<p>Enough is enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Sperwer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sperwer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 01:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I thing he was more ticked that the local mainstream press displays a great deal of jounalistic “sadaejuui,” particularly when it involves press reports in the American media.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, considering the reputation for accuracy and integrity of the local press, and the external restraints and intertnal constraints on its independence, it's no wonder the local editors often defer to the foreign press when they really are interested in telling the true story.  In this case, though, they seemed to have found the US counterparts to the typical Korean hack - although, perhaps its noteworthy that the AP team itself included a Korean fantasist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I thing he was more ticked that the local mainstream press displays a great deal of jounalistic “sadaejuui,” particularly when it involves press reports in the American media.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, considering the reputation for accuracy and integrity of the local press, and the external restraints and intertnal constraints on its independence, it&#8217;s no wonder the local editors often defer to the foreign press when they really are interested in telling the true story.  In this case, though, they seemed to have found the US counterparts to the typical Korean hack - although, perhaps its noteworthy that the AP team itself included a Korean fantasist.</p>
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		<title>By: shakuhachi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/26/ok-so-the-nogeun-ri-film-is-complete/#comment-53992</link>
		<dc:creator>shakuhachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 01:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;shakuhachi—Haisan doesn’t have an ethnic axe to grind, regardless of his ethnic identity. And at any rate, I don’t see how saying that racist thinking was pretty commonplace in the 1950s is all that controversial a thing to say. Heck, the United States began the Korean War with racially segregated units, with formal desegregation within the Army not taking place until 1951.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Robert, like I said, I &lt;em&gt;dont know&lt;/em&gt; Haisan's 'ethnic identity', but if what one writes seems to put ones ethnic identity on display, then it is time for reflection. As for 1950's racialism, what I found offensive was the suggestion that 'racist thinking' of the 1950's automatically translates into the massacre of Korean civilians. I am sure there were plenty of whites at the time calling blacks and others racial slurs, but that did not mean that they were going around killing them. Segregation is a non-sequitur in this context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>shakuhachi—Haisan doesn’t have an ethnic axe to grind, regardless of his ethnic identity. And at any rate, I don’t see how saying that racist thinking was pretty commonplace in the 1950s is all that controversial a thing to say. Heck, the United States began the Korean War with racially segregated units, with formal desegregation within the Army not taking place until 1951.</p></blockquote>
<p>Robert, like I said, I <em>dont know</em> Haisan&#8217;s &#8216;ethnic identity&#8217;, but if what one writes seems to put ones ethnic identity on display, then it is time for reflection. As for 1950&#8217;s racialism, what I found offensive was the suggestion that &#8216;racist thinking&#8217; of the 1950&#8217;s automatically translates into the massacre of Korean civilians. I am sure there were plenty of whites at the time calling blacks and others racial slurs, but that did not mean that they were going around killing them. Segregation is a non-sequitur in this context.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/26/ok-so-the-nogeun-ri-film-is-complete/#comment-53991</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 01:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not even one drop of ink must be allowed to fall into the Han River.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not even one drop of ink must be allowed to fall into the Han River.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Koehler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Koehler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 01:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sperwer---I thing he was more ticked that the local mainstream press displays a great deal of jounalistic "sadaejuui," particularly when it involves press reports in the American media.  When he wrote the piece, the Korean press ignored it, but when AP did it, it was front-page news.  Whether or not he had a right to bitch in the case of the AP piece---it did have the added element of "eye-witness testimony" of a guy who said at the time he was there---is debatable, but I felt his general beef---that the local press pays way too much respect to foreign press reports about Korea---has a fair degree of merit behind it.

shakuhachi---Haisan doesn't have an ethnic axe to grind, regardless of his ethnic identity.  And at any rate, I don't see how saying that racist thinking was pretty commonplace in the 1950s is all that controversial a thing to say.  Heck, the United States began the Korean War with racially segregated units, with formal desegregation within the Army not taking place until 1951.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sperwer&#8212;I thing he was more ticked that the local mainstream press displays a great deal of jounalistic &#8220;sadaejuui,&#8221; particularly when it involves press reports in the American media.  When he wrote the piece, the Korean press ignored it, but when AP did it, it was front-page news.  Whether or not he had a right to bitch in the case of the AP piece&#8212;it did have the added element of &#8220;eye-witness testimony&#8221; of a guy who said at the time he was there&#8212;is debatable, but I felt his general beef&#8212;that the local press pays way too much respect to foreign press reports about Korea&#8212;has a fair degree of merit behind it.</p>
<p>shakuhachi&#8212;Haisan doesn&#8217;t have an ethnic axe to grind, regardless of his ethnic identity.  And at any rate, I don&#8217;t see how saying that racist thinking was pretty commonplace in the 1950s is all that controversial a thing to say.  Heck, the United States began the Korean War with racially segregated units, with formal desegregation within the Army not taking place until 1951.</p>
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