Know your evacuation routes

Update:  dda, posted evacuation plans for French nationals in Korea in the comments section.  If you know any other country’s evacuation plans, feel free to post them there as well. 

Original Post:  In case any of you Americans were wondering what to do in case Kim Jong-il gets spunky and decides to start Korean War II (or III if you count that nastiness in the 1960s), here is information on were to go in order to get your butt out of the Land of Morning Calm.

If you live in Seoul, go to one of these places:

1. Seoul Combined Sports Stadium
2. Kyonggi Boys High School (near Intercontinental Hotel)
3. Mokdong Ice Rink

Those outside of Seoul should check out the site to find were you should run away to. Once you get there, just mill about until somebody tells you what to do or you get a better idea.

(Hat tip to Judge Judy)

As for me, the plan is to head down to Mungyeong with my wife’s family. However, in my more macho moments I figure I would go Osan and volunteer to help unload planes. I used to be a mover and I figure that I could get into “game shape” in a week or two.

The British have a plan, they just don’t want to give out details ahead of time. Just listen to AFN for them to tell you were to go.

As for our Canadian brothers and sisters, the plan is to flag down your hagwon owner and hitch a ride in his yellow van. Don’t forget to bring your stash along as it will be needed to take the edge off and help you chill during the long, slow ride south.

OK, seriously, here are your evacuation proceedures. Plan A for Canadians seems to be to hitch rides with the Americans.

56 Comments

  1. montclaire your flag
    Posted October 16, 2006 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    Considering how quickly the Seoulites all turned tail in 1950 - and back again - and back again - depending on who happened to be moving in at the time, maybe we shouldn’t be so confident that our neighbors will simply let us go.

  2. Posted October 16, 2006 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

    As for our Canadian brothers and sisters, the plan is to flag down your hagwon owner and hitch a ride in his yellow van. Don’t forget to bring your stash along as it will be needed to take the edge off and help you chill during the long, slow ride south.

    You forgot to mention the Canadian flag on the backpack. Once the North Koreans realize they are nice Canadians rather than evil Americans, no doubt they’ll be safe from harm. Of course, if that don’t work, they could always go, “Canadians, universal health care. North Koreans, universal health care. See? Canadians, North Koreans… same-same!”

  3. robert neff your flag
    Posted October 16, 2006 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    I loved this post……

  4. montclaire your flag
    Posted October 16, 2006 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    The DPRK requests all Canadians don their “I am not American” t-shirts and stay in their hagwons to await the new management. Contracts will be honored on a 100,000 won: 1 rice ball basis. Extra rice ball on Dear Leader’s birthday.

  5. dda your flag
    Posted October 16, 2006 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    The Brits have a [small] networks of civilian volunteers to coordinate the evacuation. A friend of mine had this embassy-issue radio. I think he mentioned what the evac points were, but I can’t remember…

    Some of the evac points for Frenchies are:
    • the French school – duh
    • Novotel Kangnam

    For the northern part of Seoul, I have no idea whether there’s even one, as very few Frenchies live north of the river – except the bankers who live in 성북동. Prolly the embassy…

  6. iwshim your flag
    Posted October 16, 2006 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

    All of you EAT CROW.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Taylor

    It would just be a chance for you yanks to return the favor.

    Kenneth Douglas “Ken” Taylor, OC , BA , MBA , LL.D (born October 5, 1934 in Calgary, Alberta, Canada) was a Canadian ambassador to Iran. Taylor helped six Americans escape from Iran during the hostage crisis in 1979 by contacting Canadian Prime Minister Joe Clark and getting him to issue the Americans Canadian passports to fool the Iranians into believing they were Canadians in a covert operation called the Canadian caper.
    The Iranian students invaded the United States embassy on November 4, 1979 (Iran hostage crisis). During the riot the six Americans managed to escape. They then hid for four days before reaching the Canadian embassy where they met Taylor who devised the plan to get them out of Iran safely. The other hostages were released on the last day of U.S. President Jimmy Carter’s term in office, in January 1981.
    After returning from Iran, Taylor was appointed Canadian Consul-General to New York City. In 1980, he was made an Officer of the Order of Canada, and was also awarded the United States Congressional Gold Medal that same year[1].
    Ken Taylor completed his undergraduate studies at the University of Toronto. He was a member of the Sigma Chi Fraternity, and has since been honored with its highest award, the Order of Constantine. He returned to the University of Toronto for several years as the Chancellor of Victoria College. Ken Taylor remains a Canadian Citizen but resides in New York.

  7. Posted October 16, 2006 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    this is an awesome post! rag on the canadians!

    on a more serious note… i’ve been tagged war time essential by contract, but i know my company isn’t going to pay me enough to stay. my ass is high tailin’ outta Kunsan AB. they can find some other sap to replace me…

  8. Posted October 16, 2006 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    1. Seoul Combined Sports Stadium
    2. Kyonggi Boys High School (near Intercontinental Hotel)
    3. Mokdong Ice Rink

    Right! To paraphrase a line from Colone Hodges (Tommy Lee Jones) in “Rules of Engagement”, unless the evac is announced well in advance (yeah, right), what do you suppose is the life expectancy of someone trying to make their way from anywhere north of the River to any of these places in the midst of the mother of all artillery barrages. I’m headed with my kit into the old bunkers up on Bukhansan, from where I plan to watch the rockets red glare, the bombs bursting in air and sea of fire in the city down below.

  9. Posted October 16, 2006 at 7:25 pm | Permalink

    iwshim,
    Have a toke and chill, dude. We are just having a little fun.

    But you are right. I will do my best to make sure that there are at least six seats available for our Canadian brothers and sisters on the first C-130 flying out of Osan AB.

  10. Posted October 16, 2006 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

    20% of those around you (or more) plan on busting out their Juche tracts and will stab you in the back literally and figuratively, so you might want to just stay and fight. There will be plenty of weapons to go around after a few hours.

    The Canadians just saved a buddy of mine’s ass in Afghanistan a few weeks ago when 66% of the Afghan battalion he was advising bailed on first contact, so I take back any disparaging remarks I may have made about Canada during the global missile defense debate.

  11. Posted October 16, 2006 at 7:37 pm | Permalink

    “** The Embassy must stress that although a “global agreement” does exist between the Canadian and U.S. governments to assist one another in times of crisis, there is no specific agreement pertaining to Korea. The understanding is that USFK (United States Forces Korea) and U.S. Embassy personnel will take care of U.S. nationals first, and nationals of other countries with which they have “global agreements”, second, should their resources permit this. Should Canadian nationals proceed to an American military facility for assistance at the time of a crisis, they must exercise patience, and be prepared to wait until American citizens have been dealt with.”

    This is funny! Considering how many bases we’re going to be closing down and people NEOing out of each base, you can be lucky if you can get a flight out to Japan or back to Canada. You can expect Youngsan to be run down, the 2ID folks are basically there just to puff smoke and go, and all your other bases will be primarily Osan AB, Kunsan AB, and Daegu. All the freeways and local roads will be a rolling parking lot where all Korean Nationals will be fleeing to the south and so good luck to Canadians trying to get to a US Military installation.

  12. iwshim your flag
    Posted October 16, 2006 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    Yes I take it all in fun, especially when I can give better that what has been had.

    As a follow up to Mark’s comment. I really wonder how many of you know how much has changed in Canada in the last year?

    The Canadians have committed themselves to a very dangerous operation in Afghanistan and our paying dearly for it. This not because there is anything inferior about our military ability (ask Mark’s buddy) but because when they get involved in something that is good guys and bad guys they don’t shy away from doing a little bit more than what is asked.

  13. Posted October 16, 2006 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    The Canadians have been doing good work in Afghanistan and they operating in the dangerous south are being specifically targeted by the Taliban and is why they are taking such steep casualties there. The Taliban thinks they can break the Canadian public’s will by focusing their attacks on Canadians and getting their troops to withdraw. I hope their wrong. Possibly a Canadian can answer that.

    A little known fact is that the Canadians have taken the second most casualties in Afghanistan behind only the US and only Britian and the US have more casualties overall in the War on Terror.

    The Canadians have been good allies despite what the US media would have you believe and that should be worth a few seats on the C-130’s out of Osan.

  14. Posted October 16, 2006 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    As far as NEO…does anyone REALLY think it’s going to work as advertised? The biannual NEO exercises the military has are nice and give everyone a warm fuzzy, but if the shit (suddenly) hits the fan, do you honestly believe there’s going to be a flotilla of planes with empty seats landing, one after the other, to take you out of here? And even if so, how do you propose to get out of Seoul? You can’t get anywhere in normal, day-to-day traffic…so imagine the gridlock in an emergency. Face it, you’d all be fucked, and that’s the way it is, Canadian or not, end of discussion. Those of us more south may make it even further south, which is our only chance, but to depend on the magic bus out of here during a war is lunacy. If you live here and war breaks out you’re fucked. If you don’t like those odds, then go home.

  15. gbevers your flag
    Posted October 16, 2006 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

    My students told me that they expect me to stay and fight, considering that I served four years in the US navy more than twenty-five years ago. I just smiled. I did not want to tell them that the only thing I remember from my navy days was how to fold my underwear.

    Personally, I do not think there will be enough warning to evacuate people. North Korea did not train all of those special commandos for nothing. And what good will it be to go to a studium, a high school, or an ice rink after the shells start dropping? I assume those are the places you go to either before or after the fighting since I cannot see them loading us onto trucks and buses during the fighting and then using loadspeakers to tell the thousands of Korean drivers jamming the highways heading south to make way for the Americans.

    I will probably just barricade myself in my apartment and wait for things to settle down. Of course, my apartment building is probably already targeted.

  16. Posted October 16, 2006 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    I think Nomad put it most succinctly in #14 ;)

    It’ll probably be time to just start walking, and keep walking till you arrive at the South Sea! (Then what? Build a raft and head over to Japan? Depends on how bad things are, I guess….)

  17. capt_kimchi your flag
    Posted October 16, 2006 at 10:36 pm | Permalink

    Good posting today. We had the sirens and jets down here in Busan too. I got things backwards though, and I went outside.

  18. seouldout your flag
    Posted October 16, 2006 at 11:20 pm | Permalink

    Over the years hundreds have told me their escape plan. It’s always the same. Steal motorcycle. Drive south. That’s my favorite. Delusion.

    This brilliant gem is the funniest thing I’ve read in a year:

    As for our Canadian brothers and sisters, the plan is to flag down your hagwon owner and hitch a ride in his yellow van.

    . Well put. I won’t steal your motorcycle.

    Canadians not old enough to remember 1975; prepare to duke it out with the Koreans for the space inside the airliner’s wheel well. I still remember the photo of the family who couldn’t hang on and fell from the sky. Here are some other photos

    If you think Seoul’s fall will look different from Saigon’s you’re right; they’ll be on top of us faster.

    Finally a primer on the fun we’ll have.

  19. Posted October 17, 2006 at 12:23 am | Permalink

    Re Seouldout (#18):

    Or how about these a bit closer to home…

    The 흥남철수 (Hŭngnam Evacuation) from Hamhŏng in the North ahead of the advancing Chinese…something like 91,000 Koreans also evacuated, along with UN forces. (Hmmm, I guess not everyone wanted to live under the Communists. I wonder how the lefties would explain that one.)

    Or the 1.4 후퇴 (January 4th Retreat) soon thereafter in early ‘51, just ahead of the Chinese-Norks sweep south on Seoul.

  20. Posted October 17, 2006 at 12:32 am | Permalink

    Or this fun photo, also from Hŭngnam. (And it’s near Hamhŭng, not Hamhŏng as I wrote above.)

    The evacuation is also referred to in Korean by a longer name, 흥남 철수 작전 (”Hŭngnam Evacuation Operation”).

  21. Zonath your flag
    Posted October 17, 2006 at 12:35 am | Permalink

    All of you EAT CROW.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Taylor

    It would just be a chance for you yanks to return the favor.

    Thanks for the heads up. If I happen to be anywhere where there’s an evacuation going on, and I see Ken Taylor, I’ll be sure to help him out. All the rest of you Canucks, though, can help yourselves. :P

  22. Posted October 17, 2006 at 12:44 am | Permalink

    You will be able to spot the Kiwi’s,

    We will be the ones carrying our “Household emergency kits”:

    From the NZ embassy site:
    The household emergency kit should hold sufficient supplies to sustain household members for up to three weeks. The kit should contain:
    * food staples (ready-to-eat including high-energy packaged or canned food items)
    * water - 8 litres/person/day minimum (2 litres drinkable and 6 litres for bathing)
    * lighting devices such as a torch (with spare batteries) and candles/matches
    * hand-held transistor radio (with spare batteries)
    * blankets and warm clothing
    * cooking device with fuel/matches
    * heating device with fuel/matches
    * basic medical kit, including prescription medicine
    * basic toiletries kit
    * stationery
    * map of local area and the ROK
    * a minimum of 4 litres of household bleach for water purification (use 1 tsp or 5ml per l.25 litres of water) and as a decontaminating agent.

    As well as our emergency kits:
    Evacuation kits provide supplies for use during movement to evacuation points. The evacuation kits (one for each family member) should be kept in back-packs and contain:
    * all personal documents for all family members including current passport, Korean residency documentation, employment/school details, ID card, health and immunisation records, driving licence, certificates of birth/marriage/adoption, passport size photos, inventories of personal effects and insurance policy details,children’s school records, credit cards, cheque books, wills and details of power of attorney. (In some cases it may be prudent to have copies of documents available.)
    * minimum four days supply of food (ideally lightweight high energy, ready-to-eat foods, such as muesli bars, biscuits, cereal etc)
    * basic toiletries, including water-purification tablets or bleach (1 teaspoon per 1.25 litre of water); insect repellent; sun-protection cream; spare eyewear; antibiotic ointment; aspirin, painkiller, prescription medicine (including a supply of critical medication) and infant and sanitary needs
    * Transistor radio (with spare batteries)
    * Torch (with spare batteries)
    * Road map of the local area and the Korean peninsula
    * Stationery
    * Seasonal clothing including comfortable walking shoes (in winter - warm headgear, socks, gloves, outer layers; in summer - sunhat, sunglasses, sunblock cream and long sleeved shirt to prevent sunburn.

    And if you’re a Kiwi, don’t forget your hat (if it’s sunny) or beanie and some sensible walking shoes:

    “An evacuation could take place in difficult conditions, where roads are blocked and parts of Korea under attack. In these circumstances, New Zealanders might have to walk considerable distances to evacuation points, possibly in difficult weather conditions.”

    That being said the site has an informative action plan as to what to do should a chemical weapons attack take place.

  23. Zonath your flag
    Posted October 17, 2006 at 12:56 am | Permalink

    * water - 8 litres/person/day minimum (2 litres drinkable and 6 litres for bathing)

    This tickled me… As if personal hygeine is really a priority during periods of civil disturbance. There might be barbarians at the gates, but that doesn’t mean that we must be uncivilized… Calgon, take me away!

    As a side note… It sort of disturbs me that the NZ embassy is more or less advising their citizens to waste perfectly good drinking water for baths during a crisis. Maybe it’s just an attempt to get people to stockpile more water than they absolutely need?

    That being said the site has an informative action plan as to what to do should a chemical weapons attack take place.

    Hopefully, it’s a bit more useful than the plastic wrap and duct tape plan Homeland Security fed the American public a few years back. :P

  24. Posted October 17, 2006 at 1:03 am | Permalink

    Stafford: You Kiwis are wimps! Here’s what us tough Canucks are advised to do about water: drink it with bleach. And don’t worry, Zonath: we can fend for ourselves. We’re all descended from trappers and lumberjacks, you know! ;)

    Bring water canteens (1 litre size), and purification tablets for making water drinkable. Local river water can be made useable by treating it with Clorox bleach, at the rate of one teaspoon of bleach per gallon of water. Treated water should be shaken and then let stand 20 to 30 minutes before using it.

  25. Posted October 17, 2006 at 1:06 am | Permalink

    i have my kayak with me and ready to paddle out to cheju island or beijing. i’m not sure which is closer or the safer route, but i’m right on the coast and all i have to do is follow it because there won’t be any traffic out there.

    as far as the NEO goes… sure it will work. you may not have as many people evacuated as expected the first time around, but they’ll get those people who carry a light luggage (like nothing). osan might be fucked considering the close proximity of the DMZ and Osan. the Kun and other bases further down south has a fighting chance; and in all cases where the air strip is secure after a couple of days of fighting, all they have to do is resume the transpo out of country.

    i wouldn’t mind dieing and fighting for a country that is not mine nor do i have business in because i believe in brotherhood. when you have a country that makes you feel unwelcome such as having 43% (even if this is accurate) of the people survey blame americans for Lil Kim detonating those bombs, or where S. Korea thinks they should be in line with Chinese views but yet we see the Chinese sniping Tibetan people out in the Hymalayas (sp?), and numerous other accounts. yeaaaah… i tend to have 2nd thoughts about helping an ungreatful country where we’ve come to their aid numerous times.

  26. Posted October 17, 2006 at 1:07 am | Permalink

    …Actually, I’m guessing the bleach is really for bathing/clotheswashing water…are they really advising using it to make potable drinking water?

    In a pinch, I’d say disinfect it with whiskey or soju. Heck, just take a good pair of running shoes, your passport, and a few 2-litre bottles of soju. You can disinfect water, numb the pain, keep warm, and forget your problems with it.

    (Disclaimer to naive readers who just happened on this site: This is satire and not to be taken as serious advice.)

  27. Posted October 17, 2006 at 1:13 am | Permalink

    How long does it take to walk to Busan? Can I borrow a bag with room for all this shite? Actually my feeling is We Kiwis, and the Aussies for that matter, might be able to slip in amongst the Brits, with their embassy issued radios…what’s that all about?

  28. Posted October 17, 2006 at 1:19 am | Permalink

    I think those are only for the privileged few.

    Anyhow, I was surprised and impressed to discover that all these embassies actually post evac plans…I wonder if this is standard practice in all countries, or only in ones where there’s a distinct possibility of serious trouble?

  29. Posted October 17, 2006 at 1:21 am | Permalink

    …Not that any of it would go according to even the best-laid plans, mind you….

  30. seouldout your flag
    Posted October 17, 2006 at 1:30 am | Permalink

    Sewing, the Koreans look like a rather orderly bunch in those photos–you sure those be Koreans?! Perhaps the camera technology of the time made it more difficult to capture the pandemonium of the events. I prefer the photos of Saigon’s fall as I suspect there’ll be loads of us running around willy nilly grasping for departing helicopters–not enough time for those in Seoul to get to the coast. I particularly like this one where a poor chap gets his block knocked off whilst trying the scramble aboard a chopper. The accounts of the Vietnamese pilots’ cut and run are startling; helicopter landing on a destroyer’s gun turrent, helicopter landing on a helicopter, pilots jumping from flying helicopters to the ship’s deck, etc. The kicker is that Saigon’s impending fall was known to all, yet the evacuation degenerated to utter mayhem.

    And remember, there’s a shitload of foreign-passport-holding ajumas over here, and they’ll be vying for your spot. Keep your elbows sharp.

  31. Posted October 17, 2006 at 1:33 am | Permalink

    Yeah, Seouldout, you’re right…those photos from Saigon ‘75 (75, right?) are a lot more heartwrenching than what I could find in a quick search this morning. I have to admit I was somewhat disappointed that this was the best I could find.

    Thanks for the heads up about the ajummas. Sheesh! I didn’t even think of that!

  32. Posted October 17, 2006 at 1:43 am | Permalink

    The kicker is that Saigon’s impending fall was known to all, yet the evacuation degenerated to utter mayhem.

    It’s going to be even more pandemonium in Seoul, because so few people seriously believe that the North would ever actually attack, whereas in Saigon, they’d already lived through decades of war and unrest, so were used to it and should have seen it coming. If the Norks do attack, everyone will be so caught by surprise and in a state of disbelief—and the attack will no doubt come fast and furious—that it’s going to be unlike any mayhem ever seen before practically anywhere, ever.

    Scary stuff.

  33. Posted October 17, 2006 at 1:44 am | Permalink

    And if Bluejives is reading this, no, the idea does not amuse me. I have family there. I don’t want to see it come to that at all.

  34. seouldout your flag
    Posted October 17, 2006 at 1:47 am | Permalink

    Shock and awe.

    Not a Nork phrase, but it’ll be theirs.

  35. captbbq your flag
    Posted October 17, 2006 at 1:48 am | Permalink

    from The US Embassy Website:

    Essential Documents
    Passports
    I-151 or I-551 Alien Registration cards (”Green cards”)
    Korean residency documents
    Birth certificates
    Marriage certificates
    Certificates of Naturalization
    Consular Report of Birth Abroad

    It’s nice to know that among the pilled up disfigured and maimed masses of pathetic, hungry, widowed and lost refugees; with shells falling from above and sarin gas seeping through the doors and windows, I’ll still have to pick a fucking paper ticket with a number on it and wait for my turn to fill out form 68-b-3a, append the required documents, and hunt down the required signatures before handing it in in a vain attempt to get a seat out of here.

  36. SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted October 17, 2006 at 1:54 am | Permalink

    Canadian soldiers certainly aren’t ‘hosers’ (by the way, the only Canadians who use this word are the ones old enough to remember SCTV).

    http://www.freerepublic.com/fo.....3521/posts

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_C._Lemon

    http://www.vietnamwar.com/canadiancasualties.htm (roughly 10 000 of which were sent to Vietnam).

    There still many Canadians in the US Armed Forces, some of which are serving in Iraq. Marine even recruiters make the trip up north. They really want Native Canadians because they make excellent soldiers.

    PS. As a former Canadian soldier, thanks for sticking up for us, GIKorea.

  37. SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted October 17, 2006 at 1:59 am | Permalink

    dda, think I’d get help from your governement if I mentioned that I’m related to one of your greatest national heroes/military figures? I simply don’t expect the Canadian government to be of any help. Far too many of us here…and just look at what happened in Lebanon. The US is going to get swamped by every Korean who has a distant cousin in LA.

  38. Posted October 17, 2006 at 3:27 am | Permalink

    If they’re playing “White Christmas” and it’s April, immediately proceed as a panicky mob to the Embassy gates. For the those who seek more constructive guidance, here’s a bit more from the U.S. Embassy’s site.

    On a related note, this pic won a Pulitzer in 1951.

  39. Posted October 17, 2006 at 3:33 am | Permalink

    Joshua, thanks for that. Oh my God, that photo is amazingly sad.

    Here’s what Wikipedia says on the Pulitzer Prize for Photography:

    1951: Max Desfor of Associated Press, for his photographic coverage of the Korean War, an outstanding example of which is “Flight of Refugees across Wrecked Bridge in Korea.”

  40. dda your flag
    Posted October 17, 2006 at 4:32 am | Permalink

    Someguy: if you keep the poutine-scented accent at bay, they might help :-) Esp since they *won’t* ask for papers before shipping you home – heck, we have half a million paperless migrants home – those accounted for anyway – a Canuck or two on top of that won’t matter.

    Besides, there is/was a Canuck working at the French school, in times of emergency they might confuse you with him…

    So yes – remember: Novotel Kangnam ;-)

  41. Posted October 17, 2006 at 5:33 am | Permalink

    Nomad is right that the NEO plan would go to crap if it was executed while rounds were coming in. The NEO exercises are executed under the conditions that the North Koreans have not launched an attack yet. NK would probably not be able to execute a surprise attack because US intelligence would pick up the troops and tank movements towards the DMZ and the artillery being wheeled out of the mountain bunkers and other things that would warn of an impending attack. The assumption is that the US embassy would make a decision to NEO before the first rounds come in.

  42. Posted October 17, 2006 at 6:29 am | Permalink

    Hopefully, the US will know, even if there’s a good chance South Korea won’t.

  43. Posted October 17, 2006 at 7:00 am | Permalink

    (Courageous Channel. A ROK General in a Hyundai approaches full-speed as the ROK waits with its army.)
    Roh: (to the Hyundai) Well, what news?
    ROK General: We’re outnumbered, at least 3 to 1.
    Roh: How many missiles, then?
    Hyundai: X00, maybe more.
    Roh: X00 theater ballistic missiles?
    Lee, Jong-Seok: We must try to negotiate.
    Roh: Who’s in command? Did he have a Taeguk?
    Hyundai: Nay, he did.
    Craig: We can still negotiate.

    (As the chaebol are talking, two foreigners are waiting and listening in the front line.)

    Expat: (to the USFK veteran beside him) What are they talking about?
    USFK Veteran: I can’t hear, but it doesn’t look good. The Coreans will negotiate. If they do a deal, then we go home. And if not, we give more money.
    Roh: X00 missiles…we have no chance.

    (The Nork infantry, Armor, and Artillery appear over the DMZ.)

    Expat: (to no one in particular) So many! (swallows hard, then turns to the USFK veteran) I didn’t come here to fight so they can own more Mercedes and Gucci; then I have to be a teacher here and live with their racist tripe.
    USFK Veteran: Nor me. (shouting to all) Alright guys. I’m not dying for these bastards! Lets go home.

    (The two foreigners start to leave Korea and others join them.)

    Roh: (seeing the departing men, rides over the them, shouting in desperation) Stop men! Do not flee! Wait until we’ve negotiated!

    (GEN Bell and his men, with faces painted for battle, arrive on the scene in time to see the exodus. The fleeing men stop and curiously watch Bell’s entrance.)

    Expat: (to the USFK veteran as Bell rides past) B.B. Bell?
    Iraq Veteran: Can’t be. Not old enough.

    (Bell and his men ride up to the ROK nobles and chaebol.)

    LTG Campbell: The Almighty says this must be a fashionable fight. It’s drawn the finest people.
    Roh: (to Bell) Where is thy salute?
    Bell: For presenting yourselves on this battlefield, I give you thanks.
    Roh: This is our army. To join it you give homage.
    GEN Bell: I give homage to the United Nations. (shouting so that all can hear) And if this is your army, why does it go?

  44. Posted October 17, 2006 at 8:00 am | Permalink

    I haven’t had a chance to read all the comments here but as one who has experienced an evacuation and as a person who has led it as an area warden, I think it’s good for people to have a plan and to know where to go in the case of an emergency. We all should have done this a long time ago when we first came to Korea but better now than never.

    What got me through my evacuation experience was my passport, US and local currency, a bag with my bare essentials and my cool. I saw people break down and lose it and it did not help the situation. (FYI in regards to packing, I ended up leaving A LOT of stuff behind, unfortunately.)

    If we are talking about an evacuation from SK I have been informed that it would probably happen in stages with folks up north being sent down south and if things escalated, we would be evacuated by ship from down here (presumably the Busan area).

    I have also been told by my military contacts that the US will not only take care of its own citizens but will also aid citizens of its allies.

    Having said all that, wow, it was just a planned, regular test…surprised those who have lived in Korea for a long time were taken back by it all but hey, if it gets people to draft a plan then I guess it served a purpose.

  45. Posted October 17, 2006 at 8:03 am | Permalink

    Haha, laughed my ass off.

  46. Posted October 17, 2006 at 9:18 am | Permalink

    LOL. Escape route? In Seoul? Unless you’ve got a Kevlar-reinforced umbrella to protect you from the Rain of Fire(TM), your best bet once those non-drill air raid sirens go off is to kiss your ass goodbye.

    As for me, I’ll try fleeing using techniques garnered through many hours playing the Grand Theft Auto franchise, but with camera in hand for the Mother of All Blog Entries. First I’ll pull a taxi ajushi from his car–lord knows I’ve been wanting to do that for years–and hopefully roll his Hyundai south across the Han and just keep going. Otherwise it’s gonna be one helluva swim across.

    Anyway, yesterday’s drill perked my interest for 10 seconds, until all those drill workers walked out on the street below with their whistles directing traffic.

  47. seouldout your flag
    Posted October 17, 2006 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    An account of the evacuation of 22 Gia Long Street from The New York Times.

    Stationing himself next to a ladder leading onto the roof, Mr. Harnage tried to help the Vietnamese families up. But the first man who appeared, Mr. Harnage recalled, was a Korean who was hysterical and Mr. Harnage punched him out of the way to maintain order. The Huey, the workhorse of the American effort in Vietnam, normally carried about eight passengers, but Mr. Harnage jammed in as many as 15 Vietnamese, and jumped on the helicopter’s skid, standing in the open doorway as it flew to Tan Son Nhut on the edge of the city.

    Anyone think the Koreans will behave differently during the evacuation of Seoul?

  48. gbevers your flag
    Posted October 17, 2006 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    GI Korea,

    I question the intelligence of US intelligence. The US may get indications of North Korean troop movements, but how long will it take them to realize that it is the real deal, instead of just a drill? The U.S.S. Pueblo comes to mind along with a few other things, including the near intercept of a US reconnaissance aircraft by North Korean migs a few years ago. I fear that by the time the US realizes what is really going on it will be too late. Hello, Pearl Harbor.

    Are US and Korean forces really ready to deal with North Korea’s submarine fleet, special commandos, and infiltrators already in South Korea? I suspect the war will begin with one big surprise party, and I would not want to be in the US embassy applying for a new passport or having lunch at the Dragonhill Lodge on Yongsan when that happens.

  49. SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted October 17, 2006 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    “As for me, I’ll try fleeing using techniques garnered through many hours playing the Grand Theft Auto franchise, but with camera in hand for the Mother of All Blog Entries. First I’ll pull a taxi ajushi from his car–lord knows I’ve been wanting to do that for years–and hopefully roll his Hyundai south across the Han and just keep going. Otherwise it’s gonna be one helluva swim across.”

    Thanks for the laugh.

    seouldout, Korean travelers have been known to riot when their flights were delayed (notice how the gates for flights to Korea always seem to be in corner of the airport, away from the others), so I’m not convinced that going to the evacuation points would be a wise decision.

  50. montclaire your flag
    Posted October 17, 2006 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    After the bombs have fallen, people in the rest of the world are going to pore over these posts and conclude: “Remarkably, the expat community in Seoul never believed it was in any real danger.”

  51. Posted October 17, 2006 at 5:03 pm | Permalink

    Re the pic linked by Joshua: How many people know the story? This is the Hanggang Rail Bridge (still there in resurrected form today, also carrying auto traffic I believe). It was blown on the orders of a ROK General known as Fat Choi, whose panic-driven order left tens of thousands of ROK infantry and all their equipment stranded north of the river, trapped with their backs to it, for the NORKS to round up and liquidate or impress into service in the Inmingun. This self-inflicted loss of most of its ((very) relatively) combat-ready brigades pretty much put paid to the ROKA defense of the South and set the stage for the Mingun blitzkrieg to the Naktong River and the near eradication of the South.

  52. Posted October 17, 2006 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    That should have been Fat “Chae”, also known as “Fat Boy” — Maj. Gen Chae Byong-Duk, ROK Chief of Staff. When the bridges were blown, 500-800 persons who were making their way across were killed.

  53. AFCHIEF your flag
    Posted October 18, 2006 at 1:07 am | Permalink

    Charles Jenkins has promised to come back and take over as head of the SNU Engoish Department.

  54. AFCHIEF your flag
    Posted October 18, 2006 at 1:28 am | Permalink

    The household emergency kit should hold sufficient supplies to sustain household members for up to three weeks. The kit should contain:
    * food staples (ready-to-eat including high-energy packaged or canned food items)
    * water - 8 litres/person/day minimum (2 litres drinkable and 6 litres for bathing)

    The sucker who can carry 160 liters of water (2 for drinking 6 for bathing) in a Back Pack don’t need to run. Just take off the backpack and whip the heck out of the entire NK army.

  55. Zonath your flag
    Posted October 18, 2006 at 4:15 am | Permalink

    It was blown on the orders of a ROK General known as Fat Choi, whose panic-driven order left tens of thousands of ROK infantry and all their equipment stranded north of the river, trapped with their backs to it, for the NORKS to round up and liquidate or impress into service in the Inmingun.

    Maybe he was just following the advice of a long-dead military commander from China:

    23. Throw your soldiers into positions whence there
    is no escape, and they will prefer death to flight.
    If they will face death, there is nothing they may
    not achieve. Officers and men alike will put forth
    their uttermost strength.

    – From the Art of War

  56. SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted October 18, 2006 at 6:49 am | Permalink

    AFCHIEF, spoken like a single guy. Don’t you know that the sucker would would also have to carry his wife’s 160 liters, too?

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