Comments on: Some sense on North Korea and her nukes http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/12/some-sense-on-north-korea-and-her-nukes/ Korea... in Blog Format Tue, 2 Dec 2008 00:04:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: sewing http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/12/some-sense-on-north-korea-and-her-nukes/#comment-51657 sewing Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:55:23 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/12/some-sense-on-north-korea-and-her-nukes/#comment-51657 Okay, okay. And many of our soldiers did die for the UN forces in the Korean War, so I will concede that Canada does arguably have some historical justification for claiming a stake in this matter. Okay, okay.

And many of our soldiers did die for the UN forces in the Korean War, so I will concede that Canada does arguably have some historical justification for claiming a stake in this matter.

]]> By: SomeguyinKorea http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/12/some-sense-on-north-korea-and-her-nukes/#comment-51653 SomeguyinKorea Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:34:55 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/12/some-sense-on-north-korea-and-her-nukes/#comment-51653 sewing, you'd still be wrong. For example, many people believe that Loyd Axworthy should have been the one to receive the Nobel Peace Prize for demining. A Canadian was also behind one of the many ceasefires that were negotiated between Israel and Palestine while Arrafat was still alive (then again, that one doesn't count. We supplied plane, arms and capital to Israel during the 1948 war). sewing, you’d still be wrong. For example, many people believe that Loyd Axworthy should have been the one to receive the Nobel Peace Prize for demining. A Canadian was also behind one of the many ceasefires that were negotiated between Israel and Palestine while Arrafat was still alive (then again, that one doesn’t count. We supplied plane, arms and capital to Israel during the 1948 war).

]]> By: virtual wonderer http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/12/some-sense-on-north-korea-and-her-nukes/#comment-51643 virtual wonderer Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:09:22 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/12/some-sense-on-north-korea-and-her-nukes/#comment-51643 in addendum, Dr. Lankov wrote another piece for the WSJ, available on nkzone. in addendum, Dr. Lankov wrote another piece for the WSJ, available on nkzone.

]]> By: virtual wonderer http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/12/some-sense-on-north-korea-and-her-nukes/#comment-51641 virtual wonderer Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:54:21 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/12/some-sense-on-north-korea-and-her-nukes/#comment-51641 SK winning the Cold War isn't making me feel better. Depending China's reaction by the end of this week, we will really see if DPRK really used it's "last card." Because right now, the news is that the Chinese are trying to neuter Chapter 7 as much as she can. They are even saying that we shouldn't "punish" rather try to assuage them to come to the table. If South Korea joins PSI, it's probably limited only to mid-eastern terrorist issues--which is to say, SK is not joining the PSI. I just cannot see ROK navy boarding DPRK ships. I think China & SK still hold the delusion that Bush will go bilateral, which is as unlikely as DPRK going 6-party. I foresee 5 parties coming together to slap DPRK's wrist. US & Japan will still tighten what they can, and we might see that 2nd test in the near future. I wonder if anything will change then. The big question is, will Uri let go of their pet projects? Will China reduce oil delivery? I have lost all hope in Chapter 7. It just feels like they are just waiting for the news that the explosion was a fake, so it's easier to keep the status quo. I also have a feeling that we won't stop DPRK from selling nuke/missiles abroad. How are we going to stop them from selling research papers? What proof will we ever have? The chances of going into an Iraqesque country with "proof" of WMD right now is really really bad. What worries me the most: 1: DPRK really doing "It." 2: Coming death of US-ROK alliance. 3: Trade war with China. 4: nuclearization of the far east. At first, I was hopeful because of Roh's strong words. But I forget... He is still Roh. And China's still China, Bush is still Bush, and Kim Jong Il is still Kim Jong Il. SK winning the Cold War isn’t making me feel better. Depending China’s reaction by the end of this week, we will really see if DPRK really used it’s “last card.” Because right now, the news is that the Chinese are trying to neuter Chapter 7 as much as she can. They are even saying that we shouldn’t “punish” rather try to assuage them to come to the table. If South Korea joins PSI, it’s probably limited only to mid-eastern terrorist issues–which is to say, SK is not joining the PSI. I just cannot see ROK navy boarding DPRK ships. I think China & SK still hold the delusion that Bush will go bilateral, which is as unlikely as DPRK going 6-party. I foresee 5 parties coming together to slap DPRK’s wrist. US & Japan will still tighten what they can, and we might see that 2nd test in the near future. I wonder if anything will change then. The big question is, will Uri let go of their pet projects? Will China reduce oil delivery? I have lost all hope in Chapter 7. It just feels like they are just waiting for the news that the explosion was a fake, so it’s easier to keep the status quo.

I also have a feeling that we won’t stop DPRK from selling nuke/missiles abroad. How are we going to stop them from selling research papers? What proof will we ever have? The chances of going into an Iraqesque country with “proof” of WMD right now is really really bad.

What worries me the most:
1: DPRK really doing “It.”
2: Coming death of US-ROK alliance.
3: Trade war with China.
4: nuclearization of the far east.

At first, I was hopeful because of Roh’s strong words. But I forget… He is still Roh. And China’s still China, Bush is still Bush, and Kim Jong Il is still Kim Jong Il.

]]> By: sewing http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/12/some-sense-on-north-korea-and-her-nukes/#comment-51635 sewing Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:09:01 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/12/some-sense-on-north-korea-and-her-nukes/#comment-51635 Okay, I should have qualified...I meant a diplomatic role such as it played during the Suez Crisis. You're quite right. I'd just woken up and hadn't had my coffee yet. Okay, I should have qualified…I meant a diplomatic role such as it played during the Suez Crisis. You’re quite right. I’d just woken up and hadn’t had my coffee yet.

]]> By: SomeguyinKorea http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/12/some-sense-on-north-korea-and-her-nukes/#comment-51634 SomeguyinKorea Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:35:51 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/12/some-sense-on-north-korea-and-her-nukes/#comment-51634 "That in Canada hasn’t managed to play a significant role in any other high-profile international event in the past fifty years—and moreso, that the intelligentsia here feels that it’s incumbent on us to play such a role (that the world somehow expects it from us)—is pretty pathetic (speaking as a Canadian)…." Oh, be fair. You purposely forget to mention the Gulf War, the War in Afghanistan, Somalia, Rwanda, and the Yugoslav War, among other high-profile events. “That in Canada hasn’t managed to play a significant role in any other high-profile international event in the past fifty years—and moreso, that the intelligentsia here feels that it’s incumbent on us to play such a role (that the world somehow expects it from us)—is pretty pathetic (speaking as a Canadian)….”

Oh, be fair. You purposely forget to mention the Gulf War, the War in Afghanistan, Somalia, Rwanda, and the Yugoslav War, among other high-profile events.

]]> By: sewing http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/12/some-sense-on-north-korea-and-her-nukes/#comment-51619 sewing Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:45:15 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/12/some-sense-on-north-korea-and-her-nukes/#comment-51619 Hard as it may be to believe, Canadian documentarians and pundits still look back fondly to the <i>1950s</i>, when future Prime Minister Lester B. Pearson helped to mediate the Suez Crisis. That event—half a century ago now—is <i>still today</i> hearkened back to as the high point in Canadian diplomacy, and still seems to be considered by many with fondness as the time when we heard a voice in the world. That in Canada hasn't managed to play a significant role in any other high-profile international event in the past fifty years—and moreso, that the intelligentsia here feels that it's incumbent on us to play such a role (that the world somehow expects it from us)—is pretty pathetic (speaking as a Canadian).... Hard as it may be to believe, Canadian documentarians and pundits still look back fondly to the 1950s, when future Prime Minister Lester B. Pearson helped to mediate the Suez Crisis. That event—half a century ago now—is still today hearkened back to as the high point in Canadian diplomacy, and still seems to be considered by many with fondness as the time when we heard a voice in the world. That in Canada hasn’t managed to play a significant role in any other high-profile international event in the past fifty years—and moreso, that the intelligentsia here feels that it’s incumbent on us to play such a role (that the world somehow expects it from us)—is pretty pathetic (speaking as a Canadian)….

]]> By: The Goat http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/12/some-sense-on-north-korea-and-her-nukes/#comment-51612 The Goat Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:21:20 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/12/some-sense-on-north-korea-and-her-nukes/#comment-51612 Awww...c'mon be fair. Canada has not had a foreign policy for about 13 years (Nov. 4th 1993). It has only recently surfaced again (Feb. 6th, 2006). By foreign I mean any policy not centered on Ontario and/or Quebec...but that is another story! By the way, thanks for that link. I did not know that existed either. Awww…c’mon be fair. Canada has not had a foreign policy for about 13 years (Nov. 4th 1993). It has only recently surfaced again (Feb. 6th, 2006). By foreign I mean any policy not centered on Ontario and/or Quebec…but that is another story!

By the way, thanks for that link. I did not know that existed either.

]]> By: Robert Koehler http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/12/some-sense-on-north-korea-and-her-nukes/#comment-51605 Robert Koehler Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:00:29 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/10/12/some-sense-on-north-korea-and-her-nukes/#comment-51605 Canada has a foreign policy weekly? I didn't even know they had a foreign policy :) On a more serious note, let me second Andy and say Leif-Eric Easley's piece in OhMyNews is excellent. Canada has a foreign policy weekly? I didn’t even know they had a foreign policy :)

On a more serious note, let me second Andy and say Leif-Eric Easley’s piece in OhMyNews is excellent.

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