Comments on: One of the IKK’s finest gets his… uh, 5.5 minutes of fame http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/09/29/one-of-the-ikks-finest-gets-his-uh-55-minutes-of-fame/ Korea... in Blog Format Fri, 8 Aug 2008 21:08:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Two Cents http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/09/29/one-of-the-ikks-finest-gets-his-uh-55-minutes-of-fame/#comment-50740 Two Cents Tue, 03 Oct 2006 00:40:07 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/09/29/one-of-the-ikks-finest-gets-his-uh-55-minutes-of-fame/#comment-50740 The Korean language used a combination of hanja and hangul before Pres. Park's policy of abolishing hanja completely from the Korean language. There are more hangul letters than just 3 or 4 in the pic. Even in the first 12 letters at the beginning of the article, 4 are definitely hangul. Hangul characters in the article are as abundant as one would find hiragana in a Japanese newpaper article. The partial ban you speak of was the removal of the Korean language from compulsory subjects at schools. It simply became elective. http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/culture/200602/kt2006022816365611690.htm It seems the Japanese government allowed Korean-language movies filmed by a Korean director for the Korean audience to be made up to 1943. The Korean language used a combination of hanja and hangul before Pres. Park’s policy of abolishing hanja completely from the Korean language. There are more hangul letters than just 3 or 4 in the pic. Even in the first 12 letters at the beginning of the article, 4 are definitely hangul. Hangul characters in the article are as abundant as one would find hiragana in a Japanese newpaper article. The partial ban you speak of was the removal of the Korean language from compulsory subjects at schools. It simply became elective.

http://times.hankooki.com/lpag.....611690.htm
It seems the Japanese government allowed Korean-language movies filmed by a Korean director for the Korean audience to be made up to 1943.

]]> By: Richardson http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/09/29/one-of-the-ikks-finest-gets-his-uh-55-minutes-of-fame/#comment-50738 Richardson Mon, 02 Oct 2006 23:39:45 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/09/29/one-of-the-ikks-finest-gets-his-uh-55-minutes-of-fame/#comment-50738 Two Cents, The ban, or partial ban, came closer to WWII, not as early as you describe. Looking at the 1940 pic you link to, how many hangul letters to you spot? Three or four? The rest is hanja. At least from what I can see w/o a better pic. Two Cents,
The ban, or partial ban, came closer to WWII, not as early as you describe.

Looking at the 1940 pic you link to, how many hangul letters to you spot? Three or four? The rest is hanja. At least from what I can see w/o a better pic.

]]> By: lirelou http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/09/29/one-of-the-ikks-finest-gets-his-uh-55-minutes-of-fame/#comment-50709 lirelou Mon, 02 Oct 2006 06:10:55 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/09/29/one-of-the-ikks-finest-gets-his-uh-55-minutes-of-fame/#comment-50709 G. Bevers. Thank you for taking the time to answer that. (Whew!, wipe brow) I withdraw and aspersions I may have cast upon your reasoning skills and render a humble bow. G. Bevers. Thank you for taking the time to answer that. (Whew!, wipe brow) I withdraw and aspersions I may have cast upon your reasoning skills and render a humble bow.

]]> By: Two Cents http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/09/29/one-of-the-ikks-finest-gets-his-uh-55-minutes-of-fame/#comment-50708 Two Cents Mon, 02 Oct 2006 05:25:48 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/09/29/one-of-the-ikks-finest-gets-his-uh-55-minutes-of-fame/#comment-50708 bighominid, If the Japanese government was so intent on destroying the Korean language, I wonder why it allowed the publication of the first Korean dictionary in 1925 for use in public schools? (The image is a copy of the 3rd edition printed in 1930.) http://japanese.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2004/02/27/20040227000088.html Or prepare a textbook for teaching the Korean language in class? http://toron.pepper.jp/jp/20cf/touchi/kyouka.html Or let Chosun Ilbo to continue printing in Korean in 1940? http://toron.pepper.jp/jp/20cf/touchi/sinbun1940.html bighominid,
If the Japanese government was so intent on destroying the Korean language, I wonder why it allowed the publication of the first Korean dictionary in 1925 for use in public schools? (The image is a copy of the 3rd edition printed in 1930.)
http://japanese.chosun.com/sit.....00088.html

Or prepare a textbook for teaching the Korean language in class?
http://toron.pepper.jp/jp/20cf/touchi/kyouka.html

Or let Chosun Ilbo to continue printing in Korean in 1940?
http://toron.pepper.jp/jp/20cf.....n1940.html

]]> By: gbevers http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/09/29/one-of-the-ikks-finest-gets-his-uh-55-minutes-of-fame/#comment-50707 gbevers Mon, 02 Oct 2006 04:46:58 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/09/29/one-of-the-ikks-finest-gets-his-uh-55-minutes-of-fame/#comment-50707 Lirelou, Of course, I do not believe that the school girls were intentionally murdered by the tank carrier drivers and that the drivers laughed about it, afterwards, but that is want many Koreans were saying and it even appeared on Korea TV news. That was an absurd lie spread by certain groups of Koreans to incite hatred for the US and the US military, in particular. It was hateful and disgusting and showed me just how far some Koreans would go to promote their cause. I can still remember watching a special report on Korean TV (I think it was MBC) showing a former Korean army tank driver pointing to pictures of the two dead schoolgirls and explaining how the tread tracks on their dead bodies showed that the tank carrier drivers drove over them multiple times to make sure that the girls were dead. I was disgusted that Korean TV would do a special program with that idiot. It was a blatant attempt to incite hate for the US and the US military. The point I was trying to make my post was that you cannot always believe Koreans when it comes to describing events because many seem to have little or no qualms about using lies and exaggerations to promote a personal or national cause. When Koreans describe the situation and events in colonial Korea, I think people have to be especially wary. Lirelou,

Of course, I do not believe that the school girls were intentionally murdered by the tank carrier drivers and that the drivers laughed about it, afterwards, but that is want many Koreans were saying and it even appeared on Korea TV news. That was an absurd lie spread by certain groups of Koreans to incite hatred for the US and the US military, in particular. It was hateful and disgusting and showed me just how far some Koreans would go to promote their cause.

I can still remember watching a special report on Korean TV (I think it was MBC) showing a former Korean army tank driver pointing to pictures of the two dead schoolgirls and explaining how the tread tracks on their dead bodies showed that the tank carrier drivers drove over them multiple times to make sure that the girls were dead. I was disgusted that Korean TV would do a special program with that idiot. It was a blatant attempt to incite hate for the US and the US military.

The point I was trying to make my post was that you cannot always believe Koreans when it comes to describing events because many seem to have little or no qualms about using lies and exaggerations to promote a personal or national cause. When Koreans describe the situation and events in colonial Korea, I think people have to be especially wary.

]]> By: lirelou http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/09/29/one-of-the-ikks-finest-gets-his-uh-55-minutes-of-fame/#comment-50704 lirelou Mon, 02 Oct 2006 01:31:38 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/09/29/one-of-the-ikks-finest-gets-his-uh-55-minutes-of-fame/#comment-50704 "Giving students swaps ...in the classroom is not nearly as bad as intentionally running them over with a US army tank and then laughing about it afterwards. Both events happened, right?" GB, you aren't really saying that you believed that disinformation BS story about the two school girls being "murdered" by the tank carrier, are you? If so, I'm sorry to say that I had presumed you to be more critical in your reasoning skills. “Giving students swaps …in the classroom is not nearly as bad as intentionally running them over with a US army tank and then laughing about it afterwards. Both events happened, right?”

GB, you aren’t really saying that you believed that disinformation BS story about the two school girls being “murdered” by the tank carrier, are you? If so, I’m sorry to say that I had presumed you to be more critical in your reasoning skills.

]]> By: Darin http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/09/29/one-of-the-ikks-finest-gets-his-uh-55-minutes-of-fame/#comment-50698 Darin Sun, 01 Oct 2006 22:11:36 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/09/29/one-of-the-ikks-finest-gets-his-uh-55-minutes-of-fame/#comment-50698 Haha, thanks Zonath. My bad. :) Haha, thanks Zonath. My bad. :)

]]> By: Zonath http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/09/29/one-of-the-ikks-finest-gets-his-uh-55-minutes-of-fame/#comment-50695 Zonath Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:21:06 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/09/29/one-of-the-ikks-finest-gets-his-uh-55-minutes-of-fame/#comment-50695 <blockquote>Using the command ‘blockquote’ in carrots will render block quotes.</blockquote> Actually, a caret ('carrot') is the upwards-pointing angly thing here: ^ . The proper typographical term for what you're talking about is 'brackets' (angle brackets). Anyhow, I don't mean to interrupt the bickering. Have at.

Using the command ‘blockquote’ in carrots will render block quotes.

Actually, a caret (’carrot’) is the upwards-pointing angly thing here: ^ . The proper typographical term for what you’re talking about is ‘brackets’ (angle brackets).

Anyhow, I don’t mean to interrupt the bickering. Have at.

]]> By: Richardson http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/09/29/one-of-the-ikks-finest-gets-his-uh-55-minutes-of-fame/#comment-50693 Richardson Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:00:19 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/09/29/one-of-the-ikks-finest-gets-his-uh-55-minutes-of-fame/#comment-50693 Bevers, your quote is about the "war," while I spoke of the "occupation of the PI." The camps were used to isolate the civilians from the guerillas <em>during the war</em>, thus not allowing the minority of civilians who supported guerillas give them aid. The “war” is not the same thing as the “occupation.” How much do <em>you</em> know about it? Bevers, your quote is about the “war,” while I spoke of the “occupation of the PI.”

The camps were used to isolate the civilians from the guerillas during the war, thus not allowing the minority of civilians who supported guerillas give them aid.

The “war” is not the same thing as the “occupation.”

How much do you know about it?

]]> By: Darin http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/09/29/one-of-the-ikks-finest-gets-his-uh-55-minutes-of-fame/#comment-50654 Darin Sat, 30 Sep 2006 09:53:52 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/09/29/one-of-the-ikks-finest-gets-his-uh-55-minutes-of-fame/#comment-50654 Using the command 'blockquote' in carrots will render block quotes. <blockquote>This has always been the funniest argument I’ve ever heard. People will say that someone who disagrees with them on fudge packing is an ‘ass pirate’ because they’ve either a) packed fudge, or b) been in a relationship with a fudge packer. But the people pointing the finger will either be a) not fudge packers b) are/have been in a relationship with a non fudge packer c) or are muff divers. If having stepped foot in another man’s bum makes me biassed, then being born and raised in Korea/China makes the 15 billion natives as well as every single person here biassed as well because you have also been to Korea/China yourselves.</blockquote> <blockquote>You are approaching sock levels here Darin. There are plenty of people I disagree regarding a multitude of issues who have been to Japan that aren’t fudg… Japanophiles. <b>It just that some people [sic you] seem to have a lacfadio hearn shaped buttplug wedged so far up their arse that it’s interfereing with brain signals.</b> The odd thing is, I am ever so uncertain as to why. At least Western defenders of the failings of the former Soviet Union or China and far left regimes in general tend to be “fellow travelers” and have an ideological affinity towards Marxism i.e. a cause. <b>So far the only quality that seems to bind the defenders of Japan is a love of pocky (and fudge packing!) </b>and the time-honoured usage of red herrings.</blockquote> Ah yes, make your case more convincing by continuing with the personal insults. You're certain to get me to warm up to your side that way. ;) Also, before you get to excited, do remember that you're the one that randomly called me out with an unprovoked attack. So I don't want to hear anybody saying I've poisoned the comments because they were poisoned long before I came along. Using the command ‘blockquote’ in carrots will render block quotes.

This has always been the funniest argument I’ve ever heard. People will say that someone who disagrees with them on fudge packing is an ‘ass pirate’ because they’ve either a) packed fudge, or b) been in a relationship with a fudge packer. But the people pointing the finger will either be a) not fudge packers b) are/have been in a relationship with a non fudge packer c) or are muff divers. If having stepped foot in another man’s bum makes me biassed, then being born and raised in Korea/China makes the 15 billion natives as well as every single person here biassed as well because you have also been to Korea/China yourselves.

You are approaching sock levels here Darin. There are plenty of people I disagree regarding a multitude of issues who have been to Japan that aren’t fudg… Japanophiles. It just that some people [sic you] seem to have a lacfadio hearn shaped buttplug wedged so far up their arse that it’s interfereing with brain signals.
The odd thing is, I am ever so uncertain as to why. At least Western defenders of the failings of the former Soviet Union or China and far left regimes in general tend to be “fellow travelers” and have an ideological affinity towards Marxism i.e. a cause. So far the only quality that seems to bind the defenders of Japan is a love of pocky (and fudge packing!) and the time-honoured usage of red herrings.

Ah yes, make your case more convincing by continuing with the personal insults. You’re certain to get me to warm up to your side that way. ;) Also, before you get to excited, do remember that you’re the one that randomly called me out with an unprovoked attack. So I don’t want to hear anybody saying I’ve poisoned the comments because they were poisoned long before I came along.

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