What (White) Women Want

A reader—I’m not sure if he/she wants to be named—sent me a translation of a blog entry by Dr. Zhang Jihai, who you’ll no doubt remember from here. In it, he highlights the frequent sightings of old, ugly white guy-young, pretty Chinese girl couples, and indicates the good professor’s intention to research foreign, or more specifically, white women’s views of Chinese men and what Chinese men can do to boost their chances with our full-bosomed, melanin-deficient sisters.

Read on, if you’ve got the stones. More translations to come later.

Look! Look at the Faces of These Ugly Foreign Men! (Chinese original)
I will remember forever Tuesday, March 7, 2006, the day before International Women’s Day, because on that day, something happened that caused me to make three important decisions.

That day started out uneventful. At noon, a young Frenchwoman and I went out for lunch. On the way back, as we arrived at the entrance to our workplace, we saw across the street in the distance an elderly trash collector pushing a cart.

Just then, the young Frenchwoman grabbed me, saying, “Did you see that?”

“See what?” I was puzzled.

“Right in f ront of you.”

I then realized that the old man across the street was a foreigner, his back to us, with long, dirty, messy hair. No wonder I mistook him for a trash collector. The cart he was pushing held not garbage but a mixed blood child.

Next to him was a Chinese girl, young, pretty, attractive Chinese girl.

The Frenchwoman burst out laughing, “What’s up with Chinese women?”

The Frenchwoman laughed because we had discussed this very topic at lunch. I had heard about these kinds of foreign male/Chinese female couples before, but didn’t give it much thought. Now, however, the gap between this man and woman is too intense. A lovely Chinese flower and an old, ugly,fat, short, half-naked, withered foreign man and their little baby in the cart.

On the one hand, the Frenchwoman bent over laughing (I don’t know why she laughed like that). At that moment, my self-respect as a Chinese man was deeply hurt.

Several days later, I made three decisions: First, I want to tell everyone the truth about these ugly foreign men. Second, I want to mobilize the Chinese people to keep Chinese women away from foreign men.

Third and most importantly, as a Chinese scholar, I have decided to interrupt my regular work and wholeheartedly undertake research that has never been done before: foreign women’s images of Chinese men. The outcome of this research is to help Chinese men pursue foreign women.

Our research will include two major parts: first, my fellow scholars and I will visit white women who are living in China and who do not have Chinese boyfriends and find out the reason. Then we really want to visit some white women with Chinese boyfriends/husbands and ask them about the strengths and weaknesses of Chinese men.. I know there aren’t many foreigners like these, but luckily, I’ve already met a few.

We must also carry out a large-scale survey on foreign women in China (white women only). Using scientific measurement techniques, the outcome of our study will reveal images of Chinese men in the eyes of white women and discover the five most attractive things about Chinese men. This research will answer the following questions:

How do foreign women feel about Chinese men?

What would unattached foreign women most like from Chinese men?

How can Chinese men improve their attractiveness to foreign women?

What characteristics about Chinese men do foreign women favor most?

What kind of foreign women really like Chinese men?

How can Chinese men understand foreign women? How can Chinese men approach foreign women in public?

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31 Comments

  1. Gravatar Hugh your flag
    Posted August 30, 2006 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    Thank you, I laughed and…cried? Well no, just laughed some more, it became a part of me. Keep the translations coming…

    His earnestness is the best part. I can only hope and expect his further translated crusade transcripts include “No more yanky my wanky! The donger need food!”

    That would make it shimmer.

  2. Gravatar Zonath your flag
    Posted August 30, 2006 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

    …..

    ………

    :O

    Wow. There’s just so much wrong with this, I dunno where to start.

  3. Gravatar Zonath your flag
    Posted August 30, 2006 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    No wonder I mistook him for a trash collector. The cart he was pushing held not garbage but a mixed blood child.

    Now, I’m as much in favor of the male-Chinese, female-non-Chinese as the opposite, but damn… If this guy’s against ‘mixed blood’ children to the extent that he ‘mistook’ one for garbage, maybe he’s not exactly the guy to be asking how to meet and impress non-Chinese women.

  4. Posted August 30, 2006 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    The Dear Professor should read “Foreign Babes in Beijing”, a memoire written by a Caucasian-American Jewish woman in which three foreign females including the writer herself (two American and one German) exclusively date Chinese men.

    In fact, here’s s jewel of a quote from that book:

    Kate boasted of her lack of interest in American men. She was, in this regard, a model babe, in China for the adventure and romance with Chinese men “daring to hate and love”…

    If he really wants to look into the mind of American women, he ought to read an uncensored version of this book…

  5. Posted August 30, 2006 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    How come I have a feeling this guy already has pre-determined results for his “research”.

  6. Gravatar littlebrownasian your flag
    Posted August 30, 2006 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    How come I have a feeling this guy already has pre-determined results for his “research”.

    ….because he’s a racist prick?

  7. Gravatar el araño your flag
    Posted August 30, 2006 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    More power to him-if he can find a way to increase Chinese (dare I say Asian) mens chances of scoring with the European ancestored women of the world-good for him. I suspect that starting with understanding why Asian women like non-Asian men would be a good start. In Some areas they will not be able to compete and others they will. I mean if he really wants to analyze the issue, he might as well learn not just how to bed white chicks but how to better compete for the Asian chicks going to non-Asian guys.

  8. Gravatar Wedge your flag
    Posted August 30, 2006 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    Let the games begin. If he can figure out what makes Caucasian chicks tick, then he’ll become a rich man selling international rights to the book. :-)

    But seriously, it shoudn’t take a major research effort. One word: drachmas.

  9. Posted August 30, 2006 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    Given the imbalance of women to men in China, he could become a national hero.

  10. Gravatar austin your flag
    Posted August 30, 2006 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    What White Women want? If she’s overweight, unattractive, uneducated, unemployed, unfashionable, ignorant, badmannered and a lousy bonk. The only man that is good enough for her, is rich, handsome, built like the side of a brick shit house, and has ample free time to be available to service her every needs. IN YOUR DREAMS!!! No wonder so many white women are single, they are actually serious. If asian guys want white women then, please help yourself. FOOLS!, FOOLS!, I say… because we don’t want them!

  11. Gravatar Ben Eller your flag
    Posted August 30, 2006 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    Didn’t we just have a 110 post long discussion of this same topic?

    Note how the good professor tips his hand in describing his project. He thinks attraction has to do with “images,” presumably those force fed to us all. No doubt he will conclude that Brad Pitt and Hollywood is to blame. This is the politically correct answer because it does not hurt anyone’s feelings.

    The truth of the matter is that Asian women hook up with Caucasian men despite all the bad press they receive.

    Attraction happens at a deeper level than media propaganda. Men are attracted to women who are most feminine and women are attracted to men who are most masculine.

    Carlos Mencia was doing a bit on his show the other day. He was wandering around LA asking women questions about what the liked in men. He came up a couple, an African-American man and an African-American woman. Carlos was shocked. “I can’t believe it,” he shouted. “I have found the one black man in all of LA that dates black women.”

    Caucasian men tend to possess fewer or less pronounced masculine traits than African men. Asian men are at the bottom of this totem pole. And the totem pole of femininity is perversely in reverse order with Asian women on top and African women on the bottom.

    The good news for Asian men is that they rank highest in intelligence, are less likely to develop mental illness and have longer life spans.

    Look for this topic to have legs. The next phase is a bunch of angry Asian men to start slamming white men. Then the white men will slam back. Then the conversation will somehow become about George Bush before dying at the ripe old age of 150 comments. Do not mourn the passing of this thread, however, as it will be resurected next week.

  12. Gravatar Sonagi your flag
    Posted August 30, 2006 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    I’ll out myself as the translator. When I sent the translation to Robert, I described it as a “feast for trolls” but actually this thread is pretty flame-free. I enjoyed reading it and thought Marmoters might, too. Over at the Peking Duck, most commentators doubt the opening anecdote, and I do, too. A baby stroller looks nothing like a trash cart, and I can’t imagine a Frenchwoman doubling over laughing upon seeing a scruffy old white man with a much younger Chinese partner.

    The next part of Zhang’s post is provocatively titled, “When Did China Become a Paradise for Foreign Men?” It is about twice as long as the part I translated, and I’m holding off on it until after I’ve waded through the comments section, which I scanned last night. Surprisingly, it wasn’t full of flames against white men, but rather more self-critical, blaming their own people for a lack of self-respect and making frequent mention of the economic disparity between China and the West. Translating and sharing comments worth reading is my project for tonight.

  13. Posted August 30, 2006 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    austin,

    I agree with you. Women used to have “Cinderella complex” in 90s. Now, they have “Amazon dreams”; they want to be ball-breakers.

    Women require men to say “Yes, ma’am” like a small child and obey every one of their commands verbatim. A slave is what they want.

    Once in a while (when they feel the urge), they reward their slaves with sex. Many of them want to be on top and require men to come only after they come. Men have to work hard to hold ejaculation and many times it is more work than pleasure.

    After they totally enslave their mate, they dream about “real man”. A man who is not a slave or gaylike. A man who commands and treats women like garbage. A real man.

    So, there are two ways to play. China man can become super-Macho if he wants to get white ass. Or, he can be a gay-like in manner, ready to be enslaved. I think the latter will be easier for a Chinese.

    Walk like woman, talk like woman. Blush often. Talk in a low and soft voice. Talk in a totally not threatening manner. Baby-talk. Cucucaca. Mama. Boohoohoo. Cry often as well.

    This will bring out mother-instinct from a woman and he may be babied in the sac. Many western men have found this trick recently. Forget about Boggard. Play Woody Allen. Play gay. You get white women when their hormones hit the right level.

  14. Posted August 30, 2006 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    Ah, to dream the dream; Would-be gigolos cheated in Malaysia: report:

    KUALA LUMPUR (AFP) - Malaysian men are being conned by newspaper ads supposedly searching for male gigolos to service Western and Middle Eastern women, newspapers reported.

    The New Straits Times said men had gone into debt with loan sharks in order to pay deposits to a recruitment agent who promised them a lucrative job as a male escort.

    “He told me I could earn up to 10,000 dollars a month,” said one man taken in by the scam who identified himself only as “Alan”.

    Alan paid the agent 1,000 ringgit (270 dollars) and shortly after was told to meet a client at a city hotel. He waited for hours until he spotted a Western women who seemed to be searching for someone.

    “I thought she was my client so I approached her and introduced myself. To my surprise, instead of receiving words of welcome, I got cursed and insulted,” he told the daily.

    “After being humiliated in front of others, I just walked away and realised that this was not the sort of experience I was looking forward to,” said Alan who reported the scam to the Malaysian Chinese Association’s complaints bureau.

    “I want people out there to know that there is no such thing as male escort services and to stay out of such a con.”

    Another victim, “Martin”, said he had also waited for hours to see a nonexistent client in a hotel room, had to go into hiding after borrowing his 1,000 ringgit deposit from loan sharks who he was unable to repay.

    “I worked out in a gym to make sure I looked good, and was strong for my clients. I even drank lots of essence of chicken,” lamented Martin.

    “I actually walked up to several foreigners and asked them if they were my clients. I was nearly slapped by two women.”

    Michael Chong from the Malaysian Chinese Association, a political party that is a member of the ruling National Front coalition, said he feared that many more people had been taken in.

    “The advertisement was published last month and I am sure there are others who suffered a fate similar to these two men,” he told the newspaper.

  15. Posted August 30, 2006 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    The professor is barking up the wrong tree. When he asks these foreign women, he will find out their image of a Chinese man is shaped by Hollywood.

    Yes, since these women did not have a Chinese neighbor, their idea on a Chinese is exclusively formed by Hollwood movies and what they heard from their white neighbors (who drew their conclusion from Hollywood movies).

    So, there is only one solution. Go Hollywood. Make movies with beautiful Asian male actors in heroic roles - more honest, more funny, wealthier, more able than other races. Shape new generation of minds.

    If I ever became wealthy, I would do my share, living in Los Angeles and all. I remember whispers of adoration around me in the theater that played the movie “karate kid”. Movies are great tool to change racial stereotypes.

  16. Gravatar Prince Roy your flag
    Posted August 30, 2006 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think calling attention to these kinds of pieces does anyone much good. So there is this bozo in China that published a poorly written exercise in bigotry. So what? You can read the same kind of garbage at stormfront.org

    I think the danger is that a lot of Westerners read things like this, including the comments and come away thinking that China is a bastion of anti-miscegenation. In reality, I believe the majority of Chinese people could care less. It is well to remember that those kinds of threads in China (like anywhere else) are largely self-selecting, and should be read with a large grain of salt, certainly not extrapolated to Chinese society at large.

    I find the whole interracial relationship topic so overdone and tiresome, but I realize we’ll probably never be rid of it. Like the other poster said, the good thing is that this will die down before too long, at least until the next Western lothario gets the brilliant idea to publicize his ho-hum exploits. So you wnet to Asia and got laid. Bravo. [clap. clap.]

  17. Posted August 30, 2006 at 10:56 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think calling attention to these kinds of pieces does anyone much good.

    No. But then again, I wouldn’t want to call attention to some of the news that was on the front page of the major dailies today. At least this was fun to read.

    So there is this bozo in China that published a poorly written exercise in bigotry. So what? You can read the same kind of garbage at stormfront.org

    Can’t speak for China, but if the reaction from fellow Chinese netizens was even remotely similar to that you see when similar stuff is published in Korean cyberspace, the Stormfront analogy is probably inaccurate.

    I think the danger is that a lot of Westerners read things like this, including the comments and come away thinking that China is a bastion of anti-miscegenation. In reality, I believe the majority of Chinese people could care less. It is well to remember that those kinds of threads in China (like anywhere else) are largely self-selecting, and should be read with a large grain of salt, certainly not extrapolated to Chinese society at large.

    Killjoy.

    I find the whole interracial relationship topic so overdone and tiresome, but I realize we’ll probably never be rid of it.

    Because it’s fun to read. And they generate golden comments like this, which are worth the price of admission.

  18. Gravatar seouldout your flag
    Posted August 30, 2006 at 11:13 pm | Permalink

    I remember whispers of adoration around me in the theater that played the movie “karate kid”.

    ! & !

    So, what you’re really saying is 22 years ago you looked like Pat Morita?

  19. Gravatar Zonath your flag
    Posted August 31, 2006 at 12:22 am | Permalink

    Caucasian men tend to possess fewer or less pronounced masculine traits than African men. Asian men are at the bottom of this totem pole. And the totem pole of femininity is perversely in reverse order with Asian women on top and African women on the bottom.

    The good news for Asian men is that they rank highest in intelligence, are less likely to develop mental illness and have longer life spans.

    Wow… and here, I thought that these ideas were discredited about fifty years ago. It’s good to know that the old stereotypes still have some kick to them. Are we going to start discussing phrenology next?

    Women require men to say “Yes, ma’am” like a small child and obey every one of their commands verbatim. A slave is what they want.

    Man… I can only imagine what sort of childhood you had. I guess that right there could serve to disprove the myth of the Asian woman as some sort of ‘wilting flower’ ready to be dominated.

    I have to admit that I’m a little surprised that people are hauling out the stereotypes so quickly (although I really shouldn’t be). Is it really that useful to divide things so quickly amongst racial lines?

  20. Posted August 31, 2006 at 12:59 am | Permalink

    Okay, okay, okay…

    If we consider this story, and put the race issues aside, what does this story amount to?

    A scholar is using grant money/funding/whatever to meet women and dress it up as an academic study!

    Next, perhaps he’ll do a serious examination of the effects of alcohol on social behaviour by hanging around in bars.

    An extreme and entertaining example of what can happen thanks to the publish or perish imperative.

  21. Gravatar gammazamma your flag
    Posted August 31, 2006 at 1:23 am | Permalink

    Ahhahahahaha! That article about Malaysian male wanna-be gigolos was hilarious! Can’t believe they actually paid someone so they can be a man-whore! Ahahahahaha!!!!!

  22. Gravatar Sonagi your flag
    Posted August 31, 2006 at 2:24 am | Permalink

    Yes, since these women did not have a Chinese neighbor, their idea on a Chinese is exclusively formed by Hollwood movies and what they heard from their white neighbors (who drew their conclusion from Hollywood movies).

    Baduk, the professor will interview white women living in China. Any Hollywood notions of China dissipate quickly into the smoggy air once a foreigner steps off the plane.

    Can’t speak for China, but if the reaction from fellow Chinese netizens was even remotely similar to that you see when similar stuff is published in Korean cyberspace, the Stormfront analogy is probably inaccurate.

    I haven’t read every comment, but from what I’ve read, there’s more self-criticism of Chinese servile attitudes towards Westerners than angry calls for the head of the offending blogger.

  23. Gravatar bluejives your flag
    Posted August 31, 2006 at 3:36 am | Permalink

    I’ve been in relationships with two white women (one american, one european) and I havent figured them out.

    I’ve had relationships with a Chinese, a Korean, Jamaican, Haitian, and two Puerto Rican women. One thing I’ve learned is that regardless or race, nationality, background, what have you, women are women. They’re all slightly nuts.

    Women are like an alien race set down to live among us.

  24. Gravatar ghola your flag
    Posted August 31, 2006 at 3:50 am | Permalink

    i guess you can’t help “going native” living in the bronx. gotta admit, boricuas are smokin… a lot much better than j-lo.

  25. Gravatar iheartblueballs your flag
    Posted August 31, 2006 at 6:04 am | Permalink

    two white women (one american, one european)…a Chinese, a Korean, Jamaican, Haitian, and two Puerto Rican women.

    wow. i’m counting eight different women who are obviously lacking in both self-esteem and self-respect.

    eight women who are directly contributing to a societal breakdown.

    eight women sharing a twisted sense of identity politics making strange bedfellows in a silly game of oneupmanship against the opposite gender of one’s own kind.

    seriously, i’m sad to see my erstwhile countrywomen so wrapped up in pathetic identity confusion that they’ll lower themselves to dating outside the master race.

    ———————

    now if i were actually serious about the above tripe, it’d be pretty easy to make the case that i were a racist douchebag, wouldn’t it?

  26. Gravatar bluejives your flag
    Posted August 31, 2006 at 6:46 am | Permalink

    blueballs,

    OK, I’ll level with you. Take a good look at comment #10 and tell me again that I’m wrong. I dont think so.

  27. Gravatar iheartblueballs your flag
    Posted August 31, 2006 at 8:13 am | Permalink

    jives, i’ll level with you. i made a mistake. the above should have mentioned only 7 fucked-up women with the multitude of problems you ascribe them. obviously, there was one korean woman among the group…and based on the sole fact that she shares your ethnicity, she should obviously be assumed to be a self-respecting, upstanding, confident, contributing member of society with loads of self-esteem and a perfectly healthy sense of identity politics.

    but the other 7…man, completely fucked up according to your own standard.

    i still have to wonder about something, so perhaps you can help me out with this little conundrum. one would think that a guy like yourself — with all the knowledge you possess regarding the boatload of inherent flaws that these race-traitorous women possess — wouldn’t even bother with females who choose to date outside their own ethnicity. given all the obvious negative characteristics of that group, why on god’s green earth would you choose to associate yourself with such a sorry, pathetic lot? and not just once, but repeatedly?

    are you in fact attracted to women with low self-esteem and no self-respect who are hell-bent on societal breakdown? or does your pet theory about women who date foreigners only apply to korean women who date whitey, conveniently making yourself and every woman you date an exception to the rule while you castigate your erstwhile countrywomen for the same behavior that you practice?

    it’s a simple question really. are you in fact guilty of the same crimes you consistently charge korean women with? or are you just a massive, racist hypocrite?

    looking forward to some honesty for once….

    love,

    balls

  28. Gravatar Hugh your flag
    Posted August 31, 2006 at 9:59 am | Permalink

    First,

    ” One thing I’ve learned is that regardless or race, nationality, background, what have you, women are women” Testify Bluejives! This is 100% true. I can’t be the only one who’s been asked by Korean buddies “What’s different about dating a Korean women (than a western one), and I can only answer …nothing really. Same things make them both mad. Same things make them both happy. Feisty ones and shy ones on both sides.

    Second,

    Iheartblueballs, I beg you beg you beg you…pls change that avatar. Months on, it is still horribly disturbing to look at. Sat down here in my office with a nice cuppa joe this morning, fired up the Marmot’s Hole and….ewww, god, genitals being mutilated again. For the love of god, please…

  29. Gravatar snow your flag
    Posted August 31, 2006 at 10:09 am | Permalink

    “They’re all slightly nuts.”

    Hey, I think I might be able to agree with Bluejives on this one.

  30. Posted August 31, 2006 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    I have to chime in here and ask the same thing. It’s not a question of being prudish, but it’s a “not-work-safe” image on a blog whose creator assiduously goes out of his way to flag even links to images as being “not work safe.”

  31. Posted August 31, 2006 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    …Ask the same thing as Hugh in #28, that is….

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