Well, I certainly wasn’t expecting to read something like this in a major magazine:
oasis: I dated a foreign teacher at a hagwon I was going to. He really kissed well. And he was really well mannered. And his thing was big, too. It seemed like it was twice the size of the average Korean man’s!
As I was searching around for information on stupid English teacher tricks, I came across this gem from an April issue of the Lady Kyunghyang, the ladies magazine of the Kyunghyang Shinmun. Sad that I missed it when it first came out, but please understand that I don’t usually read women’s magazines.
Anyway, it seems the Lady Kyunghyang and women’s portal site XY in Love did a little research on sex and foreigners, two great tastes that apparently taste great together for a lot of Korean women. If you’re a white male, this will no doubt provide you with a good deal of feel-good material. Others may gain a greater appreciation for why more than a few Korean guys (see comments section of any news story about foreign English teachers) have issues with Korean women and their attitudes about whitey.
Still others might find the whole thing full of shit.
Anyway, the article is posted below for your reading enjoyment. The 10-page (Microsoft Word) translation was finished at something like 2:00 in the morning, so there may be slight errors here and there.
READ AT YOUR OWN RISK. And don’t blame me.
NOTE: In case you want to know, foreign manhood got particularly high grades for our fondling/caressing skills—use of hands/tongue is apparently well appreciated.
Article starts here:
A passionate kiss on sidewalk, taking no notice of those around you? Do you think this is some movie scene far from your reality?
With a foreign friend of the opposite sex, this “fantasy” could become a reality. Let’s not turn aside from their broad-minded displays of affection. Now is the global era! You never know when you’re chance to make love with an attractive foreigner might come. Let’s take a look at each other’s thoughts and experience about love that crosses borders and race through “XY Research,” currently underway by the Lady Kyunghyang magazine and XY In Love.
“I’m studying in Japan and I have a Japanese boyfriend. At first, he was very attentive and considerate, but as we show more and more skinship, he keeps asking for strange things. I heard that Japanese men are very open, but he thinks nothing of asking for oral sex. Moreover, as long as there are no people around, he wants to have sex. He tried even in the library and train station. His passion is burdensome. But I don’t dislike it. Perhaps it’s best? I’ve spent a lot of money to come here to study, but when I sit in front of my desk, all I think about is sex” (from the “Ask Adam” bulletin board of XY In Love).
With love, language and cultural differences are no obstacle. Recently, there are a great deal more international couples coming about through a number of ways. This is because people are naturally meeting with foreigners through overseas language study or backpacking trips overseas. Between them, a number of unconfirmed popular beliefs go back and forth. “They are more passionate than Korean men,” “They like Asian women,” “Their sex technique is better,” and so on. These rumors provoke even more curiosity in those without the experience. But what do people who have experienced love with a foreigner really think?
Most people come into contact with foreigners through language conversation classes at hagwon. When asked about how much skinship they’d engage in on their first meeting, there was a big difference between men and women. About 50 percent of men said that as long as the feeling was right, they’d even have sex, while most women would stop at holding hands. One can see that in their relationships with foreigners, women act more carefully than men.
An unexpected result appeared. When asked about what was best with sex with foreigners, both men and women answered not technique or physical strength but rather active fondling and caressing. This is different from the widely held perception that “foreigners have good stamina.” This is because caressing is an act that demands more care for your partner than sexual technique. As for the biggest change after their relationships with foreigners, more than half of both men and women answered that they become somewhat more open about sex. Let’s take a look at some concrete examples through the survey’s replies.
1. Have you had a sexual relationship with a foreigner?
Men: Yes-28 No-72
Women: Yes-24 No-76
2. Where have you tried to seduce a foreigner? How did you meet?
–A good-looking foreign instructor at a language hagwon:
Men-65 Women-70
–A foreigner at a club in Hongdae, Itaewon or elsewhere:
Men-12 Women-9
–A foreigner who came as an exchange student
Men-10 Women-7
–No such experience
Men-8 Women-8
–Other
Men-5 Women-6
When I’m with my foreign boyfriend, I feel like a mysterious Oriental beauty! In Korea, I’m might not seem so eye-catchingly attractive, but in their eyes, I’m Lucy Liu! Let’s blow away with one shot all the grief we’ve gotten from Korean guys.
Please reply
Apple: These days there are lots of ways to meet foreign guys, but it seemed the most common way was through hagwon.
Salmosa: As an athlete, I’ve trained overseas several times. My most memorable experience was my guide in Hungary. Ah…
Geyrry: There are different kinds (“levels”) of foreigners, too. If you go to the high-class bars near Samseong or Gangnam stations, there are a lot of “high-quality” foreigners. There you can drink and talk to them in English. But the Filipinos or Nepalese who work in the industrial parks in Sillim or Guro are gross and not good at all.
KongKon: The foreigners who come here as exchange students are sincere and of a good standard. Moreover, because they want to learn a lot about Korean culture, you can approach them under that pretext! I’ve dated one that way.
3. How long after you first meet the foreigner do you have sex?
–We’re free style! We could do it the first day we meet.
Men – 26 Women-10
–Within a week of meeting.
Men-11 Women-5
–Only after meeting for two or three months
Men-11 Women-11
–Nothing really different because he/she is a foreigner. I decide after we’ve been meeting for a while.
Men-40 Women-49
–Other
Men-12 Women-25
My foreign friend is unrestrained as far as skinship. I try to accept everything, but I feel uneasy because of the Confucianism etched deeply into our bones. When I try to refuse, they don’t understand at all. What to do?
Please reply.
Koala: It seems these days, it seems people have sex right after they have their first drink.
Salmosa: Don’t you think that rather than fussing over whether he’s a foreigner or Korean, we should do whatever depending on the mood or the partner at the time?
One Breath: I don’t think there’s a big difference between Koreans and foreigners. I think you should decide if you’ve really grown to like him or her after meeting for a while.
Hen: Because you can’t communicate, I don’t think there’s any reason to be more uncomfortable. Moreover, after a one night stand, I don’t think one feels uncomfortable or embarrassed. Because you can coolly go your separate ways, if you meet and the feeling is right, I think you can get right to it.
Bidg: I don’t think there’s a difference just because he’s a foreigner. Isn’t the sex better if you get to know each other and develop some feelings first? I think it’s best to do it after taking a week to meet and get a feel for one another.
4. How far are you willing to go on your first meeting?
–If the feeling is right, all the way.
Men–49 Women-18
–Light kissing or cuddling.
Men-22 Women-32
–Holding hands.
Men-20 Women-34
–Touching on the first date? No way.
Men-10 Women-16
–Other
Men-9 Women-10
In their culture, they greet each other with kisses. What if they come on strong from the first date? I really don’t know how far I should be willing to go with them.
Please reply.
Jimo: What’s so different because he’s a foreigner. I think they’re the same as other guys. You have to take time to figure if the person is the right one to share a deep relationship. You mustn’t think that you can be all libertine and all because he’s a foreigner.
Suniing: They’re not so different from Koreans. Just as there are aggressive Koreans and shy Koreans, there are aggressive foreigners and shy foreigners. It depends on what kind of person you are dating. If you really like the person…
Koala: It seems you can get busy as soon as you meet as long as you like each other. The sky’s the limit.
Uenijini: Irrespective of East or West, there’s an old, immutable maxim. MEN ARE ALL WOLVES! It might be brief, but with love, I think even a wall is useless. What’s the difference between Koreans and foreigners? They’re all men, anyway.
Numbit Pungdang: Because for foreigners, a light kiss or embrace is just a greeting, I can accept that. As for more than that, when we really love and care for one another…
Kulkul Gom: I don’t think there’s much difference between foreigners and Koreans. I’ve never been involved with a foreigner, but first, if you meet for a while, click and feel the person is truly your love, it’s only a matter of time from that point.
Yejin’s Mother: For some reason foreigners seem more comfortable about touching. Aren’t Korean men conservative and stuffy?
Yeopgi Jjangisheo: I think that it’s not a question of whether they are a foreigner. If you click, that you can even sleep together on the first date.
Pretty Carrot: Frankly, kissing and caressing is fine, but for some reason, with foreigners, I’d don’t take sex lightly because I’m worried about VD since foreigners are too open about sex.
5. What’s the best thing about having sex with a foreigner?
–They’re technique is better
Men: 20 Women: 21
–Their active caressing, using their whole body like their hands and tongue.
Men: 38 Women: 42
–More positions than you could imagine
Men: 22 Women: 10
–They don’t tire and go at it for a long time
Men: 9 Women: 9
–Other
Men: 11 Women: 18
Take a look at a Hollywood movie, with their hard bodies that radiate sex. Sex with a foreigner. I sometimes want to dive into that unknown see. I want to hear from someone with actual experience.
Please reply.
Koala: A girlfriend of mine said their technique is better than a Korean’s.
ME: There’s a physical and technical element to it, but aren’t their warm, passionate stares and tender caresses even more charming?
Jiniyuni: In the movies, the more stimulating sex scenes are mysterious.
Allajjyu: It seems that not only is their sex technique good, but their caressing technique is great, too. I think this is because of their open sexual culture.
Wolnam Chima: I’ve heard that because their good at touching and their technique is good, once you’ve done it with a foreigner, you can’t go back to Korean guys.
Yeopgi Jjangisheo: My friends with experience said their was nothing particularly good. It’s just that after, there’s less of a burden. But they said foreign guys like Asian girls.
Nami: Definitely, their thing feels different from Asian guys’. They are a little more diverse in their technique and considerate to the girl. Frankly, they’re better.
6. What changed after your relationship with a foreigner?
–Sex with Koreans was no longer fun.
Men: 10 Women: 10
–I became more open about sex.
Men: 51 Women: 53
–I was disappointed because nothing was so different about sex with a foreigner:
Men: 19 Women: 13
–I developed a revulsion of foreigners
Men: 11 Women: 9
–Other
Men: 9 Women: 15
I’m more curious about sex with a foreigner because I’ve never experienced it. I’m also curious about the day after. What changed after you were involved with a foreigner?
Please reply.
Apple 3: I lost my fear of foreigners, and in fact developed a desire to experience different kinds of foreigners.
Eunnangja: For some reason, I think it would smell. An oily smell. Kind of like Koreans smell of garlic.
Herb: At first, I thought I’d feel something different, but love is love. As you date, you feel a universal feeling.
Daemul: From the start, we were very candid and aggressive. It was completely different from a Korean; firstly, the obvious physical differences felt different.
Geto23: I dated a South American girl for several months. Just in terms of sex, Korean women don’t compare. They smell different, and when foreign women have sex, they are equal to men. I usually let her lead. It was great!
BBoreumi: I dated a foreigner briefly, and there were times I was embarrassed because he’d be physically affectionate in public. But it was nice when we were together.
Yeopgi Jjangisheo: A friend of mine with experience said you can break up burden-free.
Wind Woman: I don’t think anything would change after seeing one another. This is because I’d think of my boyfriend only as a person. I wouldn’t think of him separately as my “foreign boyfriend.”
7. In this global age, it’s neither rare nor difficult to make a foreign boyfriend. Have you have fallen in love with a foreigner, or have heard stories? Freely post your experiences or stories below.
Neona Johahae: My friend met her boyfriend on a backpacking trip to Italy. Italian men are very aggressive. They especially like Asian women. So she lived in this guy’s house for about two weeks. And his mother was in the next room? Amazing, no?
Eun02: In August of last year, I went with a friend to Thailand, where I hung out with a foreigner my friend knew. We were drinking and hanging out when he took me out. He said he liked me and brought me home. Since I wanted to things progressed naturally. Afterwards we’d call and exchange text messages.
Koala: I girl I know hangs out a lot in Itaewon. So she freely sleeps around. She says it’s fun.
Himdeulda: Since I’m studying abroad, all my friends and my boyfriend are foreigners. They are more open than Koreans, and since I don’t have to follow stuffy Confucian ideas about sex, I feel comfortable.
AKIRA: I met my boyfriend at a farewell party for a Japanese student who was studying here. We fell in love at first sight. The first time we met, we kissed at dawn. Of course now, we still contact talk to one another. But because of language difficulties, there are frequent misunderstandings.
Yonggari: While my friend was studying in the United States, she went to a party in a red Chinese dress. Some white guy looked at her all agape and asked her out right there, telling her how pretty she was. But because he was ugly she turned him down.
oasis: I dated a foreign teacher at a hagwon I was going to. He really kissed well. And he was really well mannered. And his thing was big, too. It seemed like it was twice the size of the average Korean man’s!
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Considering that 京鄕新聞 was a catholic newspaper, sold under duress – the Korean catholic church was blackmailed, threatened that a little sexy scandal involving a clergyman would be divulged to the public – it is fitting such a story should be published by this company.
“Skinship”: Robert, you’ve been in Korea too long! That is not an English word. (Don’t worry: I’ve mistakenly used “handphone” before in English conversation.)
And I liked “his passion was burdensome”: 열정이 부담수러웠어요, no doubt? The translation is fine and fluid…I just liked how the Korean idiom came through (assuming I got it right)!
Anyhow, good job on the translation, although I’ve only read the first couple of paragraphs. I’ll wait for the usual crowd to throw in their mild-mannered, unprovocative comments on this.
“KongKon: The foreigners who come here as exchange students are sincere and of a good standard. Moreover, because they want to learn a lot about Korean culture, you can approach them under that pretext! I’ve dated one that way.”
LOL! Who’s seducing whom!?
When I’m with my foreign boyfriend, I feel like a mysterious Oriental beauty! In Korea, I’m might not seem so eye-catchingly attractive, but in their eyes, I’m Lucy Liu! Let’s blow away with one shot all the grief we’ve gotten from Korean guys.
BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
This naive self-exoticizing little lotus blossom is about as mysterious as an unslightly piece of kimchi stuck between one’s teeth.
Seriously, I am sad to see so many of my erstwhile countrywomen so lacking in self-respect and self-esteem. How can society be so damn broken?
you translated this TEN page article? feel good stuff indeed.
most korean ladies want to grow up and marry korean men, marmot. sorry to disturb your feel good moment.
but enjoy your time being the korean man’s black man.
ten pages, indeed.
I’d have to agree with Pawki. Peeking at women’s magazines for voyeuristic, feel-good materials…is not what Real Men do.
Actually, the survey results are rather mixed. Similar results would probably be found in China and Japan.
Bluejives and Pawikirogi:
Before you dismiss this entire thing out of hand, take a look at the first set of numbers:
Don’t know what the sample size is, though, or whether the respondents were self-selecting (if it was a web-based survey).
Sewing,
All I gotta say is:
Much of what passes for interracial (intercultural/international) relations is basically two people sharing a twisted sense of identity politics making strange bedfellows in a silly game of oneupmanship against the opposite gender of one’s own kind.
pawikirogi wrote -
“most korean ladies want to grow up and marry korean men, marmot. sorry to disturb your feel good moment.”
WANT? They WANT to marry Korean men or are they FORCED to (due to family expectations). I am no expert on KOREAN women by any means, but I’d venture to say that MOST KOREAN LADIES WANT to marry someone they LOVE and that LOVES them back - disreguard wether the man is korean or not.
WANT and FORCED/COERST/EXPECTED are very different things.
“but enjoy your time being the korean man’s black man.”
This coming from a guy posting from the US. Funny how RACISM in America is (generally) looked down apon. However in korea, comments like yours seem to be the norm. In my eyes, that statement confirms how I have felt (some) korean men feel about white folks. So what other BROAD STEREOTYPE besides racism would you care to share with us - little penis boy?
bluejives wrote -
“Seriously, I am sad to see so many of my erstwhile countrywomen so lacking in self-respect and self-esteem. How can society be so damn broken?”
Once again, RACISM - albeit concealed behind a statement. Yes, society is broken if one has to be judged on the color of their skin verus the merit of their character.
Sewing,
Those poll numbers cannot be representative of young people in their 20s, nevermind the general population. Foreigners comprise only 1-2% of Korea’s population. Even if every foreigner had sex with a different Korean every night, it wouldn’t be possible. People do lie in polls.
General message to the mostly male commentators at the Marmot
***NOT WORK-SAFE!!!
Size does matter somewhat but there is a such thing as too big. Women come in different sizes just as men come in different sizes, and sex with a man who is very big is actually painful! Most women require clitoral stimulation to reach orgasm, and sexual position and use of other extremities facilitate a woman’s organism much more than size. There is such a thing as being too small, but I won’t share about that singular experience.
Every time I hear about size, I just roll my eyes. That little too hot missy going on about foreign guys’ big dicks needs to grow up and has a lot to learn about sexual pleasure.
Love,
Sister Sonagi
jivesy old chap…you and your pal pawi would be better off just covering your eyes and ears when it comes to stuff like this. the reality is going to be far too painful for a couple old-school beat-your-fish-and-wife-every-three-days adjoshis like yourselves.
just keep sucking your thumb and repeating “only their noses are twice as big…only their noses are twice as big…only their noses are twice as big…only their noses are twice as big.”
Sonagi:
While the article is entertaining, I agree with your advice to take the overall results with a grain of salt. Anyhow, as far as I can tell, the survey results come from a website whose readership is probably not representative of the population as a whole.
I knew where this thread was going to go…it’s so predictable. But I did find this first set of numbers interesting. At least among those who read the website from which the numbers evidently come—and who bothered to respond to the poll—the results fly against the general trend of comments on the Marmot’s Hole whenever the discussion turns to this topic. The issue always ends up being that of opposing sides attacking or defending the idea of Caucasian men and Korean (or more generally) East Asian women hooking up…never mind any of the many other possible combinations of genders and ethnicities.
Jivesy old chap? What are you, British, now?
I’m not your chap. You’re obviously one bitter mofo. Dont ever address me again, loser.
That was just a silly article, from a magazine probably comparable to Cosmopolitan. Sex sells magazines, too! I do believe that foreigners are attractive to the opposite sex across the board, in most cultures. The thrill of being different.
Oasis’ last comment aside, the other comments are actually rather interesting.
Many of these kinds of articles are total fabrications. One reporter can make up the entire story while making a breakfast in one morning.
She can run amuk with her fantasy about sex and foreigners. Sometimes, it is a copy from a Japanese or an American sex magazines, with substitution on nationalities of persons involved.
Total fabrication.
This is a problem with Korean media. There is no National Enquirer sold on the stand. Instead, these fantasies sneak through the mainstream newspapers. And, since no verification happens, these so-called reporters are free to make up stories, statistics, and characters.
And, they do. I won’t be surprised that all quotations came, not from real persons but from the head of the reporter.
Robert,
Are you so naive? Do you believe the testimonials in men’s magazines are from real people?
Korean media stories are sometimes similar to those fantasies. There is no verification for news articles, sometimes even for big stories. When pressed on the “source”, the reporter just goes on a vacation.
Even major newspapers knowingly allow, yes they do, these fabrications to be printed. Sex stories and sob stories are big sellers in Korea. A junior reporter cooks up a cock-and-bull story from his head and the editor just prints them. There is no fact check. NONE!
This is even worse for weekly or monthly magazines which are filled with weird sex stories and political scandals. These articles are of “believe-it-or-not” category.
I feel sorry about your waking up till 2 am to translate this garbage.
this coming from the guy that pegs korean women who dare date furriners as pathetic tramps lacking self-esteem and self-respect, claims that inter-racial dating leads to a broken society, and then throws terms like twisted, silly, and strange into his 3rd-grade psycho-analysis to rationalize it.
and then thinks that i’m the one that’s bitter. it’s called projection, douchebag. look into it.
i wouldn’t be surprised if this was a copy from a japanese magazine. i swear i read something similar in a japanese tabloid.
nevertheless, korean girls have asked and told me stories that are along the lines of what’s written above. i dont understand why any korean men should feel insecure or jealous. if you find that one true love, who cares if another korean girl sleeps with other men, foreign or not.
Emotional melt downs…brilliant. “Your” women getting their freak on with the baengko really gnaws at your psyche, doesn’t it?
Maybe I misunderstood one of the quotes; I thought it read:
How long before the author is outed and the death threats begin? The over/under is three days.
Well, Toshi IS the man…
What is the use of a story about dating “foreigners” that groups Japanese people, North Americans, Europeans, Chinese, etc.? I’d be willing to be that the majority of dating that goes on is with Japanese men and North Americans, and that the experience would be quite different.
Strange how the meeting question only gave options in Korea (and even then, did not mention church, which seems to be a popular method). With so many people studying and traveling abroad these days, I bet that is a very common way people explore the world.
This world eventually breaks down the men of muscle. Better to have a powerful brain, which is what the Korean man has over his white brother.
Oh, the humanity! Why the chauvinism, people!? Anyhow, one of the main instigators on almost every single thread on this topic is a fellow of Korean ancestry who happily casts stones from the glass house of his own interracial relationship—which he has proudly proclaimed on many occasions—with a woman of the Caucasian persuasion. All power to him…but it takes some nerve for him of all people to repeatedly be the loudest critic of such relationships when the genders are reversed!
“All power to him…” I meant, for being in an interracial relationship, not for lashing out at everyone else who’s in one.
Bluejives wrote:
Countrywomen? But I thought your passport was blue…(Am I wrong? I could be~)
Sonagi re: Comment #13: I 100% agree.
Hilarious article…
Thanks for the translation!
Robert, you certainly got all the kyopo boys hot and bothered. Kudos!
It’s not only Gyopo men getting hot, Dogbertt.
I wanna meet Toshi! Any guy who can get a Korean to give up Dokdo must be GOOD!!!
No, of course they don’t. They write 50+ page rants on “white cum-catching Korean women.”
Yes, they want to marry Korean men, but they want to sleep with whitey.* And here lies the crux of the problem.
If by “the korean man’s black man,” you mean, “Simultaneously the subject of fear and awe owing to the widely held belief that we have big dicks,” I say, even “positive stereotypes” are harmful, Pawi. Except for ths one. This one is OK.
* Just yankin’ Pawi’s chain.
LOL these threads are too damn funny…brings out the inner caveman in everybody.
Once upon a time I worked for a magazine publisher that had a title for teenage girls, and shockingly enough, one editor said they made up a lot of the content as well.
Just remember that women encounter your personality before they see your willie (except for you guys in the park behind the Shinchon Hyundai Dept. Store).
Er, dare I ask what goes on behind the Shinchon Hyundai Department Store?
The forested paths on the campus of Yonsei University are another great place to watch strange men masturbating while sitting on benches or wandering around wearing an ill-fitting bra and nothing else.
Happily, men masturbating in public is a global thing, so I’m not missing out now that I’m back in the States. Just a month ago I was treated to a performance by an ugly little man fondling himself through his trousers as he stood between two bookshelves in the local public library. The first time I witnessed this sort of thing at the age of 12, I was horrified, but now after the initial surprise -is he doing what I think he’s doing - I have to stifle a laugh.
On second thought, I really, really wish I hadn’t asked.
It’s not an interesting story–I happened to see a guy there with his pants down, exposing himself to no one in particular, and a bunch of schoolgirls in the park were acting like they saw this kind of thing all the time, which maybe they did.
re the park behind the dept. store, i heard that park is a dwelling for korean lesbians. true?
ohoho, I feel like there’s something very grammar school about all this. I could swear I heard snickering all about me as I read through the thread.
Bluejives, I sympathize with your comment about real men and voyeurism but following up any comment of agreement with Pawi with a comment about “real men” smacks of irony. With “Craven” being the secondary title to Pawi’s mantra on the white-man, I can’t think of a stranger two sentences being strung together.
That being said, what’s so voyeuristic about the article? (although the last few comments were a bit disturbing) It’s just a look at the voyeurism of the subjects in the poll. I think there’s an important difference there. Also, I found their answers dubious at best. But oh well…snicker snicker.
Come on now. I read that half of all women are wearing the wrong size bra too.
RE#2 — “Skinship.” As used here, it seems to have an extra nuance that makes it a useful new word.
According to this poll, Korean men are the ones who are having more fun with them furry creaturers known as furreiners.
1. Have you had a sexual relationship with a foreigner?
Men: Yes-28 No-72
Women: Yes-24 No-76
So who are these lucky furrein women?
In college, I remember a psychology-major friend telling me that there have been studies about how phenotypically different outsiders get more action. I didn’t attend the lectures, but it was basically, the tourist phenomena. A tourist with some confidence can get lots of attention. I had a couple of Asian buddies come back from backpacking in Europe and though it is a small sample, they confirmed this idea. Of course, if there are social prejudices against this phenotype, the phenomena doesn’t happen.
As for Korean and Kyopo men getting mad at Korean women for idealizing white men, maybe Korean women should also get mad at Korean men. My college roommate was handed a mission before coming to the States — he needed to experience a white woman and tell his buddies if all they had heard was true. I’ve never asked him if he completed his mission, but he did chase after a couple of women who didn’t deserve his time.
Hey, the females of our breed tend to be considerably less furry
Ben Eller said:
Better to have a powerful brain, which is what the Korean man has over his white brother.
————————————-
What factual information is this comment based on? The Korean with supposedly the ‘most powerful brain’ turns out to be a big disgrace (Hwang Woo-suk).
BTW, I think Korean men are just as smart as any other men. Too bad about the scientific facts about their average member size though.
I skipped most of the comments after I saw bluejives was going to lead the direction of the thread.
I just wanted to say:
I think “oasis” quoted in post is Kushibora under a different name exploring yet another side of his ethnicity and gender relations. It had all the tale-tell signs….
Jelly has been observing Korean penii for long time and is becoming the expert.
http://igot2shoes.blogspot.com/
She is counting the daily observation of penis and all. We should visit her blog often to find out about Korean penii.
“I’ve never asked him if he completed his mission”
Bluejives hasn’t. That’s why he’s so bitter….
White girls have big butts and their pussy is not as responsive. They are athletic for sure but their skin is tough and not sensitive. Rough ride, like a Ford or a Chevy.
Oriental girls are more responsive and usually a better sexual partner. May not be strong enough for some western bulls, but rides well for most men like a Japanese car.
Smooth and enjoyable.
that’s exactly what my korean brother-in-law told my father when he asked for permission to marry my white sister.
it brought tears to my father’s eyes, and he was so overcome with emotion that all he could do was mumble “it’s true. it’s so true.”
wow, people still use the term “oriental?”
This is why I love Baduk.
I think tynically speaking, talking about oriental pussies is gramatically correct but not oriental girls. Pussies are like rugs. You can use oriental. But not with human individuals.
PS: I think Baduk should have to change his gravatar for this thread. I’m finding the juxasposition a little unnerving
Oh man, Baduk’s on a roll. USinK, “Pussies are like rugs. You can use oriental.” LMFAO
I tried
This whole thread has just gotten too, too weird, and not a little discomforting.
“But the Filipinos or Nepalese who work in the industrial parks in Sillim or Guro are gross and not good at all.”
Hey, that’s not fair! I’m a Filipino, although I don’t work at those industrial parks mentioned.
Show me a Korean lady who’s raring to go with a guy like me and I’ll show you what “The Bad Brown Ballbuster” can do!
Now that’s the spirit!
Yoboseyo. (if you know the joke)
Wow - what an idea, Ben. Say, could you get on your bike and peddle down to California Fitness? There’s loads of guys there who need to drop the weights and get edumacated. Just don’t tell the ‘white brother’ on the next machine over.
A lot of us have big butts and we cannot lie, but as for unresponsive genitals, ahem, Baduk, haven’t you heard that a Maserati rides like a Mini in the hands of an unskillful driver?
Ben Eller wrote -
“Better to have a powerful brain, which is what the Korean man has over his white brother. ”
Come on - you REALLY don’t BELIEVE that bullsh*t. You just trying to troll and tick people off right?
If you believe that, I feel sorry for your narrow mindedness. Such a generalization is absurd. White folks are not any more stronger than a Korean (ASIAN really, and why assiociate your nationality to a race? Oh yeah, forgot - nationalism) os smarter. It all depends on circumstance (education level or level of health and exercise) - which determines how smart or strong someone is.
I was going to reply to your comment by citing some “intelligent” Korean behavoirs like; driving habits, standing in the street when there are cars whizzing by, lettings ones kids play in the street, parking on roads, traffic lights that are out of sync, traffic lights that stop traffic at an intersection of a rice road, alianating a country who has been beside you for over 50 years while embracing an enemy who wishes you dead…..
The list can go on an on about “Korean brain power”. But I’ll refrain from commenting on that - oops.
I would bet the mortgage that Baduk has never been with a white woman. Russian ho’s in KTV bars don’t count.
Who is surprised that the Korean members here seem to be the most upset?
Personally, I’d don’t believe this article anymore than I would one in Cosmo but there are some truths to it. I get approached a lot more now everywhere I go by Korean women; especially the 28-35 y/o crowd. The higher educated Korean women who have traveled seem less likely to settle for the traditional roles expected of them. One avenue to express this new found freedom is to hookup with the Big Noses. I’m glad to see it. The old ways of Adjeshi being king in is cement cube and smacking his old lady around after he gets home from the Room Salon are coming to an end.
As for Korean brain power……5,000 years of supposed history and you’ve only mangaged to come up with turtle boats and kimchi. Best not to go with that angle fellas. Copying other’s patented technologies like cellphones and flat screens doesn’t count. If it weren’t for the conquering Mongols, I doubt this country would even have fire or the wheel.
Sorry for coming into the cesspool, but Maekchu’s comment on brain power deserves a comment. I believe we had fire and the wheel before the Mongols invaded. I am also quite sure the Mongols also had fire and the wheel at the roughly the same period. I am also pretty sure that Koreans are over represented in most of the “Best” universities in the US. Maekchu, various nations received US economic aid, but not all have prospered economically and techonologically. You are probably in South Korea, because South Korea prospered with US aid. I’m sure you wouldn’t be living there if half the country had unpaved dirt roads, mud huts, rampant infectious diseases spread by mosquitoes, etc. What’s with the white, black, American kids accusing us of being inately better at Math anyway? You guys want to put down everything Korea is better than average at, go ahead. All I know is that South Korea has only become better since the early 80’s.
By the way, I privately don’t believe Korea had 5000 years of history. All other nations even suggesting such history have a huge river running by them to support substantial agriculture. Claiming 5000 years of history is the same as claiming that your culture was one of the first organized civilizations in the history of mankind. But, then again, Japan also claims such a very long history, too.
I think everything boils down to native men not approving of native women going out with foreign men. This is not unique to South Korea. If I dare say, it is universal phenomenon.
I see. So the Big Noses tend to fancy themselves as shining armor liberators of educated Korean women who want to be free from traditional roles.
Render unto me a break. You Big Noses want Korean women BECAUSE they are more traditional, obeqiuous, obedient, pliant, etc. Most of you are washed-up refugees of Western feminism.
Stop deluding yourselves.
It’s for comment threads like this that i visit the Marmot’s Hole everyday. Keep up the good work people!
*oversharing moment in reference to penii*
and really, size doesn’t matter that much. i mean, if i had to chose between a man with broadsword who swung it about without skill or finesse, and hurt even his allies, and a man with a smaller sword who could handle it with pleasure and finesse…not saying i’d want someone with just a dagger, but i think i dislike overly big ones just as much, if not more.
One who has obviously never been married to a Korean woman! “Obedient” and “pliant”? Uh-huh, right.
Exactly.
My advice to you, BJ, it to steer clear of posts/threads such as this, at least the main issues - nothing you can say will come out good.
Well, perhaps we could find in every country at least a few people who disapprove or feel resentful if they see an opposite-sex person of their race/nationality with a foreign-looking partner. However the percentage of people who feel that way and whether they express their negative feelings to the mixed couple varies considerably. Having lived in both Korea and China, I will say that the Chinese are much more tolerant of interracial relationships. Foreign men with Chinese women are hassled far less frequently, and Chinese parents are more accepting. I attribute this tolerance to the fact that China has always been a multi-ethnic country. That doesn’t mean that racism and intolerance don’t exist in China. I just found the Chinese to be more accepting of interracial dating/marriage and biracial children. I’ve never lived in Japan but believe open expressions of hostility against mixed couples is very rare. Perhaps Japan expats can chime in on this.
Perhaps so, but certainly not politically correct — they prefer the term ‘netizens’.
Oh I’m sorry Richardson.
I must have somehow missed the sign that says that expats with Korean wives/gf/whatever can talk all kinds of shit about Korean men but Gyopos cant respond in kind.
Talk shit, expect shit in return. If you cant take what you dish out, well then, maybe one shouldnt start trouble in the first place, eh?
as far as mixed couples in japan go, its fairly open. never once did i see anyone there being talked about/treated badly/etc for being an interracial couple, nor did i ever experience any problems when went on dates with japanese men. i mean, if you went to a very respectable area or the country you probably would get more than a few stares and an acute feeling of being disapproved of, but other than that interracial couples weren’t a problem.
Bluejives -
Actually those of us Expats with Thai wives/girlfriends/whatever enjoy talking about RACIST pieces of shit like you also. (Don’t limit yourself to those whiteys with “your” countrywomen.)
But then again - what do I know right? I’m just a “big nose” - oh that stings. Let me whipe my tears away with your korean girlfriends twat. Don’t worry - you can have her back when shes finished being pleasured by my “big hose”.
On a serious note. If you have a BLUE passport - you are AMERICAN. Your race is ASIAN. KOREAN is not a RACE. I also don’t entire believe all the vomit spewing from your mouth - I think you are just stiring the pot for fun (If so - good job! Makes working nights while doing UFL more fun.)
God forgive me for stooping to this level, but what the heck.
Bluejives’ girlfriend is not of Korean ancestry.
BJ, a few things;
First, by advising you not to speak on this topic, it was b/c no matter what you say you’ll inevitably end up sounding like the bitter loser going off on a tangent – just like you did in your response to me.
Second, in response to you, “If you cant take what you dish out, well then, maybe one shouldnt start trouble in the first place” - guess what jack*ss, I didn’t make any comment in regard to your manhood or lack thereof, only your obvious ignorance of the nature of Korean women. I stayed away from that entire topic for a reason. Go look through the comments.
Like I said, anything you say in this case only highlights the bitter loser aspect of your character. You should have listened.
The ongoing debate about the relative length, girth and stamina of different races is getting a little tiresome.
I say that we should settle this in the time-honoured playground fashion by whippin’em out and comparing. Once we’ve determined who’s got bragging rights then we can move away from antagonising each other.
Also, I suppose that given the number of different races represented in the comments thread, we are getting on for a scientific population so the matter would be settled once and for all.
Yeah, the whole snickering discussion about lengths of appendages is pretty tiresome. Good that Sonagi is here to clear things up, but it’s all way too much detail, thank you very much!
Anyhow, we’d all better watch out, as the Norks have been flaunting the biggest phallic symbol of all these days (although it apparently flopped prematurely).
Oh, my feet are tired. I’d better take off these size-20 shoes now….
No but seriously, writing as a Caucasian male myself, I don’t see the merit in using the length of one’s Johnson to make any kind of useful point here. It’s too bad Robert led off with that lurid comment, since it totally baited Bluejives!
The thing is, Koreans and kyopos started this sort of shit talking first. You have some frickin’ nerve acting the innocent victim.
Au contraire. But believe that if it makes you happy.
Let’s turn the psychobabble onto you: is it your self-loathing that makes you spurn Korean women and seek out white women? Is it, as with many African-Americans, a desire to get back at “The Man”? Is it seeking to gain validation in the eyes of your fellow Asian Americans? What is the dysfunction in your interracial relationships?
Asian is not a race, despite its use as a racial/ethnic designation on North American documents. To North Americans, the word “Asian” conjures up images of Japanese, Chinese, and Koreans, but the British mean Indians and Pakistanis when they say “Asian.” The field of human genetics has long discredited the traditional Western European division of the world’s diverse peoples into simple skin colors - black, white, yellow, and red.
word wjk, word.
Wow. This thing actually detects your IP and what country your typing from and places that countries flag next to your name. Amazing~yet, kinda creepy…
Five thousand years ago isn’t the dawn of human history. The ancestors of Native Americans crossed over the Bering Straits more than 10,000 years ago, and ancient Sumer (located in southern Iraq) and Egypt predate the first recorded human settlements in China or Korea by 1,000 to 2,000 years.
I agree with #43 above that in many (if not all) cultures there are those who are attracted by difference. But I think it’s unfair to generalize or worse judge other people’s relationships from the outside.
And just to stir things up, looking at the translation of the story above, I don’t think it’s safe to assume that all of those sexual relationships were heterosexual. In fact, I would guess that of the men responding to a survey at a women’s magazine site there would be a significant number of gay men.
So how do those who look down on interracial relationships feel about ‘their’ men having sex with foreign men? (or women with women) I have no scientific evidence but from my experience it would seem that the rates of interracial or intercultural relationships are higher in the gay/lesbian community in Korea than in the society at large.
Oh and for those who might not believe it, yes there are gay Korean men.
“Wow. This thing actually detects your IP and what country your typing from and places that countries flag next to your name. Amazing~yet, kinda creepy…”
Your naiveté and wonderment is touching, Gammazamma!
Agadan, thanks for that insight. The argument on this blog always gets reduced to that of Caucasian men and Korean or East Asian women, with opposite sides for or against attacking the other position or defending their own. But the article itself also mentions (or suggests) relationships with the genders reversed or even, as you point out, possibly same-sex relationships. Not to mention all the other possible ethnic combinations that are possible, as touched on by the Filipion gentleman in comment 59. And two female Western commenters here have alluded to their own experiences. Why not just let everyone be with whomever they need or choose to be with?
“Filipion” ==> “Filipino.”
I’ve been really tryin’, baby
Tryin’ to hold back this feelin’ for so long
And if you feel like I feel, baby
Then come on, oh, come on
Whoo, let’s get it on
Ah, babe, let’s get it on
Let’s love, baby
Let’s get it on, sugar
Let’s get it on
Whoo-ooh-ooh
LMFAO!
Let’s turn the psychobabble onto you: is it your self-loathing that makes you spurn Korean women and seek out white women? Is it, as with many African-Americans, a desire to get back at “The Man”? Is it seeking to gain validation in the eyes of your fellow Asian Americans? What is the dysfunction in your interracial relationships?
Nice try. But that particular round peg isnt fitting quite nicely through your mentally constructed round hole.
Personally, I like women of any race. Each has their own unique style of attraction and beauty. If you took all the women that I’ve been with, lined them up and took a photo, it’ll look like a Benetton ad. I mean, why focus on one particular group only, right? I think that’s a pretty foolish way to go about things not to mention there’s something not quite right about it either.
Look, its no big secret that white guys have this unusually high fascination with Asian women. Everyone knows it. It’s become a damn cliche by now. You guys are too numerous, too visible to ignore. You would have to excuse my Korean brethen for having some things to say about it, not all of which is pleasant stuff, for sure. But seriously, I’d be more inclined to think something was wrong if they didnt have anything to say at all. Like I said, you guys represent the biggest cliche of interracial relationships, and its become way too visible to ignore. People are gonna say stuff about it. Just deal with it and move on.
Furthermore, I understand that you white guys who are in relationships with asian women have this hidden fear that they’d grow tired of you and might “go back to their own”, so to speak. Perhaps this is a big reason why truckloads of you tend to bash everything about Korea, and especially Korean men. Well, fear not, dudes, because as one lady once informed me, when these women have snagged a whitey, they hold on to that whitey, because it’s really troublesome to have to train another one properly. I’m not making this up.