Comments on: Bravo Foxtrot: Son of English Spectrum http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/22/bravo-foxtrot-son-of-english-spectrum/ Korea... in Blog Format Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:52:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Back Again « http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/22/bravo-foxtrot-son-of-english-spectrum/#comment-53121 Back Again « Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:26:39 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/22/bravo-foxtrot-son-of-english-spectrum/#comment-53121 [...] Anyway, I haven’t missed to much it looks like, Team USA trounced the Korean basketball team in Seoul, more fan deaths, Norks threatening a nuclear bomb test whatever, then of course there is nothing wrong with stripping prison guards, a possible ex-English teacher in Korea possibly killed Jon-Benet Ramsey, which has spurred netizen outrage while weirdos like this continue to rape women and children around Korea and no one cares, and one other English teacher is under scrutiny as well for having let’s say to much fun in Korea.  So all in all still same old wackiness in the Land of the Morning Calm.   [...] [...] Anyway, I haven’t missed to much it looks like, Team USA trounced the Korean basketball team in Seoul, more fan deaths, Norks threatening a nuclear bomb test whatever, then of course there is nothing wrong with stripping prison guards, a possible ex-English teacher in Korea possibly killed Jon-Benet Ramsey, which has spurred netizen outrage while weirdos like this continue to rape women and children around Korea and no one cares, and one other English teacher is under scrutiny as well for having let’s say to much fun in Korea.  So all in all still same old wackiness in the Land of the Morning Calm.   [...]

]]> By: shakuhachi http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/22/bravo-foxtrot-son-of-english-spectrum/#comment-48216 shakuhachi Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:45:48 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/22/bravo-foxtrot-son-of-english-spectrum/#comment-48216 seoulmilk, any ideas on how to find that particular show online? seoulmilk, any ideas on how to find that particular show online?

]]> By: montclaire http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/22/bravo-foxtrot-son-of-english-spectrum/#comment-48209 montclaire Sun, 03 Sep 2006 07:04:35 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/22/bravo-foxtrot-son-of-english-spectrum/#comment-48209 Hmm...I'm generally if reluctantly with bluejives on this one. And I see too little sympathy here for the women involved. If I had the choice between being a Korean woman with her half-naked photo stuck (and multiplying) on cyberspace for all eternity or going through what that "teacher" has gone through as a result of his own actions - and what exactly has happened to him to elicit all this talk of lynchings? - I'd rather be the "teacher." The fact that he boshopped out one photo does not prove that he was given express consent to post the other pics; I find it hard to believe that any Korean woman, even a hooker, would consent to that in a shame culture like this. (What they consent to away from the camera lens is another matter, and their own business of course.) Needless to say, the image of English teachers was bad the moment the first ones stepped off the plane. As the Koreans usually put it, How unqualified does a foreigner have to be (자격이 얼마나 없길래) to want to come here and teach English for so little money? This attitude reflects their own money=everything attitude, their own desire to get out of Korea asap - and their nagging belief that Westerners should be above living here. But the assumption has always been that young Western men would only come here for one reason. This flap is not going to have much effect on the teachers' image either way. Anyway, the scumbag had it coming to him. Even a Korean would have got sacked for this - and talked about in the press (though probably not by name). Hmm…I’m generally if reluctantly with bluejives on this one. And I see too little sympathy here for the women involved.
If I had the choice between being a Korean woman with her half-naked photo stuck (and multiplying) on cyberspace for all eternity or going through what that “teacher” has gone through as a result of his own actions - and what exactly has happened to him to elicit all this talk of lynchings? - I’d rather be the “teacher.”
The fact that he boshopped out one photo does not prove that he was given express consent to post the other pics; I find it hard to believe that any Korean woman, even a hooker, would consent to that in a shame culture like this. (What they consent to away from the camera lens is another matter, and their own business of course.)
Needless to say, the image of English teachers was bad the moment the first ones stepped off the plane. As the Koreans usually put it, How unqualified does a foreigner have to be (자격이 얼마나 없길래) to want to come here and teach English for so little money? This attitude reflects their own money=everything attitude, their own desire to get out of Korea asap - and their nagging belief that Westerners should be above living here. But the assumption has always been that young Western men would only come here for one reason.
This flap is not going to have much effect on the teachers’ image either way.
Anyway, the scumbag had it coming to him. Even a Korean would have got sacked for this - and talked about in the press (though probably not by name).

]]> By: CEC32 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/22/bravo-foxtrot-son-of-english-spectrum/#comment-48147 CEC32 Sun, 03 Sep 2006 01:51:43 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/22/bravo-foxtrot-son-of-english-spectrum/#comment-48147 Yeah, it's too bad I missed that reporter. I heard she was pretty cute. I would have loved to have taken a few photos with her. Yeah, it’s too bad I missed that reporter. I heard she was pretty cute. I would have loved to have taken a few photos with her.

]]> By: seoulmilk http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/22/bravo-foxtrot-son-of-english-spectrum/#comment-47887 seoulmilk Fri, 01 Sep 2006 13:41:18 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/22/bravo-foxtrot-son-of-english-spectrum/#comment-47887 Chris Charles was just mentioned in one of those news magazine shows on kbs. they went to the hagwon but was told that he quit two days ago(when the reporter showed up). they interviwed some students and i couldn't quiet understand but heard the word 변태. they also interviewed a girl who dated a english teacher who told her that he will always be there for her...until she got pregnant. Chris Charles was just mentioned in one of those news magazine shows on kbs. they went to the hagwon but was told that he quit two days ago(when the reporter showed up). they interviwed some students and i couldn’t quiet understand but heard the word 변태. they also interviewed a girl who dated a english teacher who told her that he will always be there for her…until she got pregnant.

]]> By: Your weekend reading assignment at Lost Nomad http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/22/bravo-foxtrot-son-of-english-spectrum/#comment-47235 Your weekend reading assignment at Lost Nomad Fri, 25 Aug 2006 22:33:13 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/22/bravo-foxtrot-son-of-english-spectrum/#comment-47235 [...] A lot of you may have heard about the latest scandal involving English teachers.  If you haven’t, then head on over to The Marmot’s Hole and start with this post, then read this one and for the grand finale, this one (and don’t forget to read some of the comments which follow all three posts).  Having done that, do yourself a favor and read two excellent posts which address the underlying issues of English teaching in Korea - this one over at Scribblings of the Metropolitician and this one over at Outside in Korea.  Happy readings, and pop quiz to follow. [...] [...] A lot of you may have heard about the latest scandal involving English teachers.  If you haven’t, then head on over to The Marmot’s Hole and start with this post, then read this one and for the grand finale, this one (and don’t forget to read some of the comments which follow all three posts).  Having done that, do yourself a favor and read two excellent posts which address the underlying issues of English teaching in Korea - this one over at Scribblings of the Metropolitician and this one over at Outside in Korea.  Happy readings, and pop quiz to follow. [...]

]]> By: Bluedog9 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/22/bravo-foxtrot-son-of-english-spectrum/#comment-47168 Bluedog9 Fri, 25 Aug 2006 06:49:52 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/22/bravo-foxtrot-son-of-english-spectrum/#comment-47168 CM, I don't think K-pop is below my standards, I think it's below anyone's standards. The most boooooooooring, Western-music plagiarizing, (did I say boring?) tripe I've ever heard. If it were just a tad better it'd at least have a 'cheeze' element worthy of kitsch. But sadly these guys and gals and K-hip-hop gangstas (lol) actually take themselves seriously. I mean God, my 13 year old niece writes better songs and doesn't listen to that kind of shite. As you don't, I will take it upon myself to feel embarrassed for you and yours. CM, I don’t think K-pop is below my standards, I think it’s below anyone’s standards. The most boooooooooring, Western-music plagiarizing, (did I say boring?) tripe I’ve ever heard. If it were just a tad better it’d at least have a ‘cheeze’ element worthy of kitsch. But sadly these guys and gals and K-hip-hop gangstas (lol) actually take themselves seriously. I mean God, my 13 year old niece writes better songs and doesn’t listen to that kind of shite. As you don’t, I will take it upon myself to feel embarrassed for you and yours.

]]> By: The Marmot’s Hole » Blog Archive » BreakNews article on naughty English teachers UP! UPDATED http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/22/bravo-foxtrot-son-of-english-spectrum/#comment-47161 The Marmot’s Hole » Blog Archive » BreakNews article on naughty English teachers UP! UPDATED Fri, 25 Aug 2006 04:32:00 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/22/bravo-foxtrot-son-of-english-spectrum/#comment-47161 [...] Bravo Foxtrot: Son of English Spectrum  125 usinkorea, slim, Remort [...] [...] [...] Bravo Foxtrot: Son of English Spectrum  125 usinkorea, slim, Remort [...] [...]

]]> By: usinkorea http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/22/bravo-foxtrot-son-of-english-spectrum/#comment-47160 usinkorea Fri, 25 Aug 2006 04:31:30 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/22/bravo-foxtrot-son-of-english-spectrum/#comment-47160 I'm going to say something nice about Bluejives. Swallow heart pills now... He has at least stuck with the same screen name. He has brought the wrath of many, like myself, because of what he believes and says, but he has kept on spouting the crap under the same name for a long time. So much so, he has to face our memory recall on it when we pummel him. He could have created a different persona and screen name to post his thoughts under so he would not be deal with us being able to play the new stuff in a context with all the old stuff. Even if he has posted under different names, he has been the bluejives we all know and love for a long time.... I’m going to say something nice about Bluejives. Swallow heart pills now…

He has at least stuck with the same screen name. He has brought the wrath of many, like myself, because of what he believes and says, but he has kept on spouting the crap under the same name for a long time. So much so, he has to face our memory recall on it when we pummel him.

He could have created a different persona and screen name to post his thoughts under so he would not be deal with us being able to play the new stuff in a context with all the old stuff.

Even if he has posted under different names, he has been the bluejives we all know and love for a long time….

]]> By: The Marmot’s Hole » Blog Archive » BreakNews article on naughty English teachers UP! UPDATED http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/22/bravo-foxtrot-son-of-english-spectrum/#comment-47159 The Marmot’s Hole » Blog Archive » BreakNews article on naughty English teachers UP! UPDATED Fri, 25 Aug 2006 04:29:50 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/22/bravo-foxtrot-son-of-english-spectrum/#comment-47159 [...] Bravo Foxtrot: Son of English Spectrum  124 slim, Remort, usinkorea [...] [...] [...] Bravo Foxtrot: Son of English Spectrum  124 slim, Remort, usinkorea [...] [...]

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