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	<title>Comments on: English teacher hiring practices under fire after Ramsey break</title>
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		<title>By: MrMao</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/19/english-teacher-hiring-practices-under-fire-after-ramsey-break/#comment-46807</link>
		<dc:creator>MrMao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 02:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Mr. Mao, I think the message is Canadians are lesser North Americans. I think this is what you are trying to draw out. Come on you know what you read. You took the bait. I don’t have an issue with you guys who come over to teach English, but you seem to draw negative attention to yourselves at every turn. People ask me if I am an English teacher and I immediately take offense, I wonder why?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Lesser? You mean like the Japanese think the Koreans are lesser Asians?

You take offense at English teachers because you are a judgmental snob, perhaps? 

I don´t think you should be teaching anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Mr. Mao, I think the message is Canadians are lesser North Americans. I think this is what you are trying to draw out. Come on you know what you read. You took the bait. I don’t have an issue with you guys who come over to teach English, but you seem to draw negative attention to yourselves at every turn. People ask me if I am an English teacher and I immediately take offense, I wonder why?</p></blockquote>
<p>Lesser? You mean like the Japanese think the Koreans are lesser Asians?</p>
<p>You take offense at English teachers because you are a judgmental snob, perhaps? </p>
<p>I don´t think you should be teaching anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Left Flank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Left Flank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Torturing JnnBenet In Two Countries...&lt;/strong&gt;

Blame James R. Kincaid for ruining our moment:

This story allows us to fulminate against trivial problems while ignoring huge problems close to home, meanwhile wallowing in self-righteous porn babble: We are able to use the half-clothed bodies of ch...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Torturing JnnBenet In Two Countries&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Blame James R. Kincaid for ruining our moment:</p>
<p>This story allows us to fulminate against trivial problems while ignoring huge problems close to home, meanwhile wallowing in self-righteous porn babble: We are able to use the half-clothed bodies of ch&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: railwaycharm</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/19/english-teacher-hiring-practices-under-fire-after-ramsey-break/#comment-46721</link>
		<dc:creator>railwaycharm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Mao, I think the message is Canadians are lesser North Americans. I think this is what you are trying to draw out. Come on you know what you read. You took the bait. I don’t have an issue with you guys who come over to teach English, but you seem to draw negative attention to yourselves at every turn. People ask me if I am an English teacher and I immediately take offense, I wonder why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Mao, I think the message is Canadians are lesser North Americans. I think this is what you are trying to draw out. Come on you know what you read. You took the bait. I don’t have an issue with you guys who come over to teach English, but you seem to draw negative attention to yourselves at every turn. People ask me if I am an English teacher and I immediately take offense, I wonder why?</p>
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		<title>By: tmc1233</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/19/english-teacher-hiring-practices-under-fire-after-ramsey-break/#comment-46720</link>
		<dc:creator>tmc1233</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would one teach at a lowly hagwon for seven years at "lower pay" than one could get in the US?  

Well, in my case, I like the hours, I like the benefits which far exceed what I could get in the US-- housing is a big thing, coming from a place where a hole in the wall costs upwards of US$1000 per month.  My taxes are lower, and Korea is strategically located to visit places that are considered 'exotic' back home.  

On top of that, PC is not out of control like it is in the US.  Anyone who has ever worked in an American classroom knows what I am talking about.  When I add together savings on housing and lower taxation, I am making a hell of a lot more than I would in the US doing the same thing.  

Culture and language are also aspects of Korean society that I am interested in and would not be able to experience back home.

Immigration should make a successful criminal background check a condition for issuing work visas-- not just E2 visas, but ALL work visas.  I am sure that it isn't that hard to get a report after the appropriate paperwork is filled out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would one teach at a lowly hagwon for seven years at &#8220;lower pay&#8221; than one could get in the US?  </p>
<p>Well, in my case, I like the hours, I like the benefits which far exceed what I could get in the US&#8211; housing is a big thing, coming from a place where a hole in the wall costs upwards of US$1000 per month.  My taxes are lower, and Korea is strategically located to visit places that are considered &#8216;exotic&#8217; back home.  </p>
<p>On top of that, PC is not out of control like it is in the US.  Anyone who has ever worked in an American classroom knows what I am talking about.  When I add together savings on housing and lower taxation, I am making a hell of a lot more than I would in the US doing the same thing.  </p>
<p>Culture and language are also aspects of Korean society that I am interested in and would not be able to experience back home.</p>
<p>Immigration should make a successful criminal background check a condition for issuing work visas&#8211; not just E2 visas, but ALL work visas.  I am sure that it isn&#8217;t that hard to get a report after the appropriate paperwork is filled out.</p>
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		<title>By: seoulmilk</title>
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		<dc:creator>seoulmilk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 08:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don't think it's possible for the immigration office to do background checks.  i think, if the aspirant person wants to come to korea to teach, he/she should confirm with the korean consulate/embassy in their respective country and have the korean consulate/embassy do a simple criminal background check in cooperation with the local police department.  while this won't weed out everyone, it should help somewhat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s possible for the immigration office to do background checks.  i think, if the aspirant person wants to come to korea to teach, he/she should confirm with the korean consulate/embassy in their respective country and have the korean consulate/embassy do a simple criminal background check in cooperation with the local police department.  while this won&#8217;t weed out everyone, it should help somewhat.</p>
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		<title>By: Bluedog9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bluedog9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 07:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Makes you wonder who they must hire to work at their newpapers ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes you wonder who they must hire to work at their newpapers <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Brendon Carr</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/19/english-teacher-hiring-practices-under-fire-after-ramsey-break/#comment-46700</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 06:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If individual teachers paid application fees at the Embassy or Consulate, it undoubtedly would become part of their employment contract to get that fee reimbursed by the institute -- or rather, the fee would become another broken promise or "misunderstanding".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If individual teachers paid application fees at the Embassy or Consulate, it undoubtedly would become part of their employment contract to get that fee reimbursed by the institute &#8212; or rather, the fee would become another broken promise or &#8220;misunderstanding&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: EFL Geek</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/19/english-teacher-hiring-practices-under-fire-after-ramsey-break/#comment-46698</link>
		<dc:creator>EFL Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 06:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/19/english-teacher-hiring-practices-under-fire-after-ramsey-break/#comment-46635" rel="nofollow"&gt;TMC1233 wrote:&lt;/a&gt;
As a long-time English teacher here, I would support ANYTHING to raise the standards in hagwons. I am so tired of being lumped in the same category as so many LOSERS who are only here to make enough cash to get drunk every night and hook up with as many women as possible, and who don’t give a rat’s ass about the students whom they teach. I also find it embarrassing and culturally insensitive that so many of them dress like bums and have all kinds of metal hanging out of their faces. Don’t even get me started about guys with unkempt hair down to their waists…. What sort of impression does that leave on a closed society, such as Korea?

The fake degrees and irresponsible behavior have cheapened the whole concept of native-English-speaking teachers. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
I agree 100% with this statement. I also support criminal background checks but I think that the school should pay rather than the individual teacher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/19/english-teacher-hiring-practices-under-fire-after-ramsey-break/#comment-46635" rel="nofollow">TMC1233 wrote:</a><br />
As a long-time English teacher here, I would support ANYTHING to raise the standards in hagwons. I am so tired of being lumped in the same category as so many LOSERS who are only here to make enough cash to get drunk every night and hook up with as many women as possible, and who don’t give a rat’s ass about the students whom they teach. I also find it embarrassing and culturally insensitive that so many of them dress like bums and have all kinds of metal hanging out of their faces. Don’t even get me started about guys with unkempt hair down to their waists…. What sort of impression does that leave on a closed society, such as Korea?</p>
<p>The fake degrees and irresponsible behavior have cheapened the whole concept of native-English-speaking teachers. </p></blockquote>
<p>I agree 100% with this statement. I also support criminal background checks but I think that the school should pay rather than the individual teacher.</p>
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		<title>By: Darin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 05:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone is interested, here's the Google cache to his resume that says he worked in Korea and has traveled to Japan.

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:S0FfVN3PV-QJ:www.job4teacher.com/Candidates/JohnKarr.html+&#38;hl=en&#38;gl=us&#38;ct=clnk&#38;cd=1&#38;client=firefox-a

The original has been deleted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone is interested, here&#8217;s the Google cache to his resume that says he worked in Korea and has traveled to Japan.</p>
<p><a href="http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:S0FfVN3PV-QJ:www.job4teacher.com/Candidates/JohnKarr.html+&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1&amp;client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">http://64.233.161.104/search?q.....=firefox-a</a></p>
<p>The original has been deleted.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendon Carr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendon Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 04:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remort's slander about how lower Korean wage level pulls "low-quality" English teachers overlooks the fact that money is not everything. Some people are impelled to come to Korea for reasons other than money: they may be married to a Korean, want to marry a Korean, interested in Korean language or culture, or maybe they want to diddle kids. In other words, don't underestimate the pull of adventure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remort&#8217;s slander about how lower Korean wage level pulls &#8220;low-quality&#8221; English teachers overlooks the fact that money is not everything. Some people are impelled to come to Korea for reasons other than money: they may be married to a Korean, want to marry a Korean, interested in Korean language or culture, or maybe they want to diddle kids. In other words, don&#8217;t underestimate the pull of adventure.</p>
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