Comments on: Alleged French freezer dad has lived in Korea for 4 years http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/03/alleged-french-freezer-dad-lived-in-korea-for-4-years/ Korea... in Blog Format Sun, 6 Jul 2008 02:32:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: dda http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/03/alleged-french-freezer-dad-lived-in-korea-for-4-years/#comment-45387 dda Mon, 07 Aug 2006 01:16:48 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/03/alleged-french-freezer-dad-lived-in-korea-for-4-years/#comment-45387 nah, weather's better here... nah, weather’s better here…

]]> By: hardyandtiny http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/03/alleged-french-freezer-dad-lived-in-korea-for-4-years/#comment-45378 hardyandtiny Sun, 06 Aug 2006 23:20:39 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/03/alleged-french-freezer-dad-lived-in-korea-for-4-years/#comment-45378 French Freezer Baby Dude would. French Freezer Baby Dude would.

]]> By: dda http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/03/alleged-french-freezer-dad-lived-in-korea-for-4-years/#comment-45373 dda Sun, 06 Aug 2006 20:48:21 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/03/alleged-french-freezer-dad-lived-in-korea-for-4-years/#comment-45373 Who would? Who would?

]]> By: Origami http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/03/alleged-french-freezer-dad-lived-in-korea-for-4-years/#comment-45360 Origami Sun, 06 Aug 2006 16:49:22 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/03/alleged-french-freezer-dad-lived-in-korea-for-4-years/#comment-45360 Doesn't sound like he wants to go back, does he? Doesn’t sound like he wants to go back, does he?

]]> By: dda http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/03/alleged-french-freezer-dad-lived-in-korea-for-4-years/#comment-45354 dda Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:42:41 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/03/alleged-french-freezer-dad-lived-in-korea-for-4-years/#comment-45354 The interesting part about this is the <i>in abstentia</i> part: France had/has this too: <i>par contumace</i>, which is the same. So I don't understand why they'd balk at the idea... Never mind, I may be French but my fellow citizens never fail to surprise me... The interesting part about this is the in abstentia part: France had/has this too: par contumace, which is the same. So I don’t understand why they’d balk at the idea… Never mind, I may be French but my fellow citizens never fail to surprise me…

]]> By: Sperwer http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/03/alleged-french-freezer-dad-lived-in-korea-for-4-years/#comment-45353 Sperwer Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:39:08 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/03/alleged-french-freezer-dad-lived-in-korea-for-4-years/#comment-45353 You are correct. I checked and discovered that my recollection (that I had checked against the CourtTv account) that he originally had been sentenced to death was wrong; Pennsylvania did not have the death penalty at the time of the crime. Interestingly, though, when this fact was pointed out to the French, they were not persuaded that he couldn't still face the death penalty if returned to the US; hence, the need for special assurances to be made by the US authorities in ordert o obtain his extradition. There also was an effort made to argue before the the Conseil d'Etat that the PA law providing for a retrial of anyone convicted in absentia if necessary to obtain extradition might be unconstitutional under both the PA and US Constitutions. In a fit of unusual humility, the Conseil d'Etat found it was not competent to make such a determination and declined to halt the extraduition. You are correct. I checked and discovered that my recollection (that I had checked against the CourtTv account) that he originally had been sentenced to death was wrong; Pennsylvania did not have the death penalty at the time of the crime. Interestingly, though, when this fact was pointed out to the French, they were not persuaded that he couldn’t still face the death penalty if returned to the US; hence, the need for special assurances to be made by the US authorities in ordert o obtain his extradition. There also was an effort made to argue before the the Conseil d’Etat that the PA law providing for a retrial of anyone convicted in absentia if necessary to obtain extradition might be unconstitutional under both the PA and US Constitutions. In a fit of unusual humility, the Conseil d’Etat found it was not competent to make such a determination and declined to halt the extraduition.

]]> By: Zonath http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/03/alleged-french-freezer-dad-lived-in-korea-for-4-years/#comment-45340 Zonath Sun, 06 Aug 2006 08:21:43 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/03/alleged-french-freezer-dad-lived-in-korea-for-4-years/#comment-45340 <blockquote>enacted safeguards to ensure he couldn’t be executed — both alien principles that the French effectively imposed on the US justice system as a condition of agreeing to his extradition.</blockquote> Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the death penalty off the table anyhow, since Pennsylvania didn 't have a death penalty back when the crime was committed?

enacted safeguards to ensure he couldn’t be executed — both alien principles that the French effectively imposed on the US justice system as a condition of agreeing to his extradition.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the death penalty off the table anyhow, since Pennsylvania didn ‘t have a death penalty back when the crime was committed?

]]> By: Sperwer http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/03/alleged-french-freezer-dad-lived-in-korea-for-4-years/#comment-45339 Sperwer Sun, 06 Aug 2006 07:44:13 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/03/alleged-french-freezer-dad-lived-in-korea-for-4-years/#comment-45339 No, he was extradited from France - after a very lengthy and complex series of procedures -- to stand trial in Philadelpia for the murder of his former girlfriend Holly Maddox. He was convicted in the US and sentenced to life imprisonment. Actually, Einhorn had already been found guilty and sentenced to death in absentia after he fled after his original indictment. France, however, refused to extradite him on the basis of a conviction in absentia and because he had been sentenced to death. The Pennsylvania legislature had to pass a special bill enabling his retrial without possibility of another death sentence before the French would extradite him. Apopos the topic under discussion, two points stand out: (1) he was an American citizen (not French, and hence immune from extradition, and (ii) the French still wouldn't extradite him unless the US authorities retried him in person AND enacted safeguards to ensure he couldn't be executed -- both alien principles that the French effectively imposed on the US justice system as a condition of agreeing to his extradition. No, he was extradited from France - after a very lengthy and complex series of procedures — to stand trial in Philadelpia for the murder of his former girlfriend Holly Maddox. He was convicted in the US and sentenced to life imprisonment. Actually, Einhorn had already been found guilty and sentenced to death in absentia after he fled after his original indictment. France, however, refused to extradite him on the basis of a conviction in absentia and because he had been sentenced to death. The Pennsylvania legislature had to pass a special bill enabling his retrial without possibility of another death sentence before the French would extradite him. Apopos the topic under discussion, two points stand out: (1) he was an American citizen (not French, and hence immune from extradition, and (ii) the French still wouldn’t extradite him unless the US authorities retried him in person AND enacted safeguards to ensure he couldn’t be executed — both alien principles that the French effectively imposed on the US justice system as a condition of agreeing to his extradition.

]]> By: montclaire http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/03/alleged-french-freezer-dad-lived-in-korea-for-4-years/#comment-45334 montclaire Sun, 06 Aug 2006 05:21:52 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/03/alleged-french-freezer-dad-lived-in-korea-for-4-years/#comment-45334 That hippie activist Einhorn was prosecuted in France a few years ago for a murder committed in the US, no? That hippie activist Einhorn was prosecuted in France a few years ago for a murder committed in the US, no?

]]> By: Sperwer http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/03/alleged-french-freezer-dad-lived-in-korea-for-4-years/#comment-45261 Sperwer Fri, 04 Aug 2006 08:59:06 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/03/alleged-french-freezer-dad-lived-in-korea-for-4-years/#comment-45261 Dogbert: Actually no - not right out of the box, anyway. At least for a bit, he had a good job in another Asian country, but I got the impression that didn't last too long. He did/does own property in Manila, though, so yours is a good bet. Dogbert:

Actually no - not right out of the box, anyway. At least for a bit, he had a good job in another Asian country, but I got the impression that didn’t last too long. He did/does own property in Manila, though, so yours is a good bet.

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