Comments on: I ain’t the babies’ father: Frenchman http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/02/i-aint-the-babies-father-frenchman/ Korea... in Blog Format Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:30:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: hardyandtiny http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/02/i-aint-the-babies-father-frenchman/#comment-45118 hardyandtiny Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:52:52 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/02/i-aint-the-babies-father-frenchman/#comment-45118 "Just a theory here. I’m no CSI, but might it be possible for the DNA analysts to have mistaken Mr. C for one of his sons? Just thinking out loud… " I don't know. How old are they? Does the blood on the floor match the blood from the babies? “Just a theory here. I’m no CSI, but might it be possible for the DNA analysts to have mistaken Mr. C for one of his sons? Just thinking out loud… ”

I don’t know. How old are they?

Does the blood on the floor match the blood from the babies?

]]> By: Readalot http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/02/i-aint-the-babies-father-frenchman/#comment-45116 Readalot Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:37:45 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/02/i-aint-the-babies-father-frenchman/#comment-45116 "NOTE: Just a theory here. I’m no CSI, but might it be possible for the DNA analysts to have mistaken Mr. C for one of his sons? Just thinking out loud… " Having watched CSI as well; if it was one of the kids wouldn't only half of the DNA match the sample taken from the father? “NOTE: Just a theory here. I’m no CSI, but might it be possible for the DNA analysts to have mistaken Mr. C for one of his sons? Just thinking out loud… ”

Having watched CSI as well; if it was one of the kids wouldn’t only half of the DNA match the sample taken from the father?

]]> By: Readalot http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/02/i-aint-the-babies-father-frenchman/#comment-45112 Readalot Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:17:52 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/02/i-aint-the-babies-father-frenchman/#comment-45112 I would have to agree that freedom of the press is a great ideal. However as the reporters response indicates reporters lead hectic and busy lives. With the "deadlines" that are a part of their trade do you really believe that they can get the "whole story" all the time? Next question, what is a "whole story" anyway? I would have to agree that freedom of the press is a great ideal. However as the reporters response indicates reporters lead hectic and busy lives. With the “deadlines” that are a part of their trade do you really believe that they can get the “whole story” all the time?
Next question, what is a “whole story” anyway?

]]> By: dda http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/02/i-aint-the-babies-father-frenchman/#comment-45105 dda Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:29:54 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/02/i-aint-the-babies-father-frenchman/#comment-45105 Knowing the French psyche for having practiced these people for, oh, close to 40 years, if the French tenant of that house is guilty, of course he ran; and if he's not – either because he's not the father of the kids and needs to have a chat with his kids, if he has any of nubile age, or because he may be the father but realizes that he's got unwanted mail while away on vacation – he has some serious damage control to do in France. Plus, it's the sacrosanct holidays, away from Korea, which he and his family has been waiting for 11 months. I bet he was grumbling on the plane back to Korea for that meeting – I'd imagine he got even more grumpy after the discovery :-) People outside France usually don't realize how their life is centered on the benefits side of their job, esp the summer vacation, to the point of being unreasonable. Makes me crazy all the time but there you go. Of course, checking whether he withdrew large amounts from his bank accounts before scooting – if any, expats are usually paid from HQ in their French or, ahem, Hong Kong, bank accounts – would be interesting... Knowing the French psyche for having practiced these people for, oh, close to 40 years, if the French tenant of that house is guilty, of course he ran; and if he’s not – either because he’s not the father of the kids and needs to have a chat with his kids, if he has any of nubile age, or because he may be the father but realizes that he’s got unwanted mail while away on vacation – he has some serious damage control to do in France. Plus, it’s the sacrosanct holidays, away from Korea, which he and his family has been waiting for 11 months. I bet he was grumbling on the plane back to Korea for that meeting – I’d imagine he got even more grumpy after the discovery :-) People outside France usually don’t realize how their life is centered on the benefits side of their job, esp the summer vacation, to the point of being unreasonable. Makes me crazy all the time but there you go.

Of course, checking whether he withdrew large amounts from his bank accounts before scooting – if any, expats are usually paid from HQ in their French or, ahem, Hong Kong, bank accounts – would be interesting…

]]> By: Robert Koehler http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/02/i-aint-the-babies-father-frenchman/#comment-45094 Robert Koehler Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:41:05 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/02/i-aint-the-babies-father-frenchman/#comment-45094 bluejives---Nothing about this case adds up. There's a lot of screwy things going on, and it gets seedier by the day. bluejives—Nothing about this case adds up. There’s a lot of screwy things going on, and it gets seedier by the day.

]]> By: bluejives http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/02/i-aint-the-babies-father-frenchman/#comment-45093 bluejives Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:35:33 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/02/i-aint-the-babies-father-frenchman/#comment-45093 Even if Frenchie is the father that doesn't necessarily make him the murderer of the two infants, although it does make him a prime suspect in the investigation. For those of us who are more interested in the details of the crime itself, rather than peripheral and irrelevant legal issues, there's a lot of gaps of information. For example, did Frenchie volunteer his DNA sample to the CSI? Where did that sample come from? There is no mention of his sons DNA being tested. Furthermore, why did Frenchie leave the country when such a macabre incident took place in his own home? If he is indeed innocent, you'd figure that he'd remain in place (vacation or no) to make sure that at least his name is cleared and to cooperate in the full investigation. Something doesn't add up. Even if Frenchie is the father that doesn’t necessarily make him the murderer of the two infants, although it does make him a prime suspect in the investigation.

For those of us who are more interested in the details of the crime itself, rather than peripheral and irrelevant legal issues, there’s a lot of gaps of information. For example, did Frenchie volunteer his DNA sample to the CSI? Where did that sample come from? There is no mention of his sons DNA being tested.

Furthermore, why did Frenchie leave the country when such a macabre incident took place in his own home? If he is indeed innocent, you’d figure that he’d remain in place (vacation or no) to make sure that at least his name is cleared and to cooperate in the full investigation. Something doesn’t add up.

]]> By: dda http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/02/i-aint-the-babies-father-frenchman/#comment-45076 dda Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:22:30 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/02/i-aint-the-babies-father-frenchman/#comment-45076 Even small ones? :-) Even small ones? :-)

]]> By: Brendon Carr http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/02/i-aint-the-babies-father-frenchman/#comment-45055 Brendon Carr Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:04:15 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/02/i-aint-the-babies-father-frenchman/#comment-45055 Actually, I can't. My partner and I are on multiple retainers to the JoongAng Ilbo Group. We have not been consulted in relation to this matter, but it's not polite, ethical, or indeed sensible to throw stones at a client. Actually, I can’t. My partner and I are on multiple retainers to the JoongAng Ilbo Group. We have not been consulted in relation to this matter, but it’s not polite, ethical, or indeed sensible to throw stones at a client.

]]> By: dda http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/02/i-aint-the-babies-father-frenchman/#comment-45052 dda Wed, 02 Aug 2006 07:47:18 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/02/i-aint-the-babies-father-frenchman/#comment-45052 <blockquote>If he is not the father, I hope he takes the Joongang Ilbo to court for all its worth for printing his full name on more than one occasion.</blockquote> Even if he was [and of course until a court of law has proven it, yada yada], he could start a legal action for libel anyway [our resident lawyer can correct me if I'm wrong].

If he is not the father, I hope he takes the Joongang Ilbo to court for all its worth for printing his full name on more than one occasion.

Even if he was [and of course until a court of law has proven it, yada yada], he could start a legal action for libel anyway [our resident lawyer can correct me if I'm wrong].

]]> By: dogbertt http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/02/i-aint-the-babies-father-frenchman/#comment-45039 dogbertt Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:04:39 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/02/i-aint-the-babies-father-frenchman/#comment-45039 I received a reply to my query from an editor of the Joongang Daily who stated in effect, as Seoulcub does, that the Joongang Daily follows international standards of journalism to the extent possible under Korean law. This includes printing names instead of using initials, where such is appropriate. Perhaps other Korean newspapers will follow suit someday. I received a reply to my query from an editor of the Joongang Daily who stated in effect, as Seoulcub does, that the Joongang Daily follows international standards of journalism to the extent possible under Korean law. This includes printing names instead of using initials, where such is appropriate.

Perhaps other Korean newspapers will follow suit someday.

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