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	<title>Comments on: French homeowner father of frozen babies!!! UPDATED</title>
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		<title>By: dogbertt</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/07/30/french-homeowner-father-of-frozen-babies/#comment-44919</link>
		<dc:creator>dogbertt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm..."Crimson Rivers" suddenly comes to mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;&#8221;Crimson Rivers&#8221; suddenly comes to mind.</p>
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		<title>By: hardyandtiny</title>
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		<dc:creator>hardyandtiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel, just looking at your side of it:  It appears they jumped the gun and MAY have difficulty determing race/ethnicity due to the ancestry of the parents...whoever the mother may be.

It's interesting, to me at least, the Frenchman arrives in Korea on the 18th and then reports babies found on the 23rd,(leaves on 26th) and we have blood spots found on 23-24?  It seems like the Frenchman truly didn't realize they were his babies

OR...he knew and felt trapped for some reason and created an escape plan to explain himself in the comfort of France, never to return, to family and employer.

OR (I lean towards this theory), his wife (or posssibly older child) is part of something, without his knowledge, involving the invitro fertilization of another female........money......and religious cult.

I would like to know the age of the Frenchman's children, and the background of his wife.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel, just looking at your side of it:  It appears they jumped the gun and MAY have difficulty determing race/ethnicity due to the ancestry of the parents&#8230;whoever the mother may be.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting, to me at least, the Frenchman arrives in Korea on the 18th and then reports babies found on the 23rd,(leaves on 26th) and we have blood spots found on 23-24?  It seems like the Frenchman truly didn&#8217;t realize they were his babies</p>
<p>OR&#8230;he knew and felt trapped for some reason and created an escape plan to explain himself in the comfort of France, never to return, to family and employer.</p>
<p>OR (I lean towards this theory), his wife (or posssibly older child) is part of something, without his knowledge, involving the invitro fertilization of another female&#8230;&#8230;..money&#8230;&#8230;and religious cult.</p>
<p>I would like to know the age of the Frenchman&#8217;s children, and the background of his wife.</p>
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		<title>By: 조엘</title>
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		<dc:creator>조엘</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 07:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Uh genius, they cant be 100% certain who the mother is or isn’t until they analyze the suspect mother’s DNA against the baby(s)’s, which hasnt happened yet, n’est pas? They had to get the Filipino woman’s DNA for analysis, as standard operating procedure, just to rule out any and all probabilities. I’m no forensics expert, but I would think racial categorization of DNA has a far larger margin of error than linking it to a specific person.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Uh bj, the police announced prior to even determining the French resident was the father that the babies were likely Caucasian. The forensic experts, as you so readily admit you are not, then proceeded to say that after DNA testing they would be able to determine the EXACT ethnicity of the babies as well as whether or not they were twins (경찰은 국립과학수사연구소로부터 넘겨받은 영아 시신 2구의 1차 부검결과에 대한 분석을 통해 숨진 영아들이 백인일 가능성이 큰 것으로 보고 있으나 정확한 인종이나 쌍둥이 여부 등은 DNA 분석 결과가 나와야 확인될 것으로 보인다.) DNA results are back. They know they are not twins. Where is the EXACT ethnicity of these children?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Uh genius, they cant be 100% certain who the mother is or isn’t until they analyze the suspect mother’s DNA against the baby(s)’s, which hasnt happened yet, n’est pas? They had to get the Filipino woman’s DNA for analysis, as standard operating procedure, just to rule out any and all probabilities. I’m no forensics expert, but I would think racial categorization of DNA has a far larger margin of error than linking it to a specific person.</p></blockquote>
<p>Uh bj, the police announced prior to even determining the French resident was the father that the babies were likely Caucasian. The forensic experts, as you so readily admit you are not, then proceeded to say that after DNA testing they would be able to determine the EXACT ethnicity of the babies as well as whether or not they were twins (경찰은 국립과학수사연구소로부터 넘겨받은 영아 시신 2구의 1차 부검결과에 대한 분석을 통해 숨진 영아들이 백인일 가능성이 큰 것으로 보고 있으나 정확한 인종이나 쌍둥이 여부 등은 DNA 분석 결과가 나와야 확인될 것으로 보인다.) DNA results are back. They know they are not twins. Where is the EXACT ethnicity of these children?</p>
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		<title>By: 조엘</title>
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		<dc:creator>조엘</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 07:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Uh genius, they cant be 100% certain who the mother is or isn’t until they analyze the suspect mother’s DNA against the baby(s)’s, which hasnt happened yet, n’est pas? They had to get the Filipino woman’s DNA for analysis, as standard operating procedure, just to rule out any and all probabilities. I’m no forensics expert, but I would think racial categorization of DNA has a far larger margin of error than linking it to a specific person.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Uh bj, the police announced prior to even determining the French resident was the father that the babies were likely Caucasian. The forensic experts, as you so readily admit you are not, then proceeded to say that after DNA testing they would be able to determine the race of the babies as well as whether or not they were twins (경찰은 국립과학수사연구소로부터 넘겨받은 영아 시신 2구의 1차 부검결과에 대한 분석을 통해 숨진 영아들이 백인일 가능성이 큰 것으로 보고 있으나 정확한 인종이나 쌍둥이 여부 등은 DNA 분석 결과가 나와야 확인될 것으로 보인다.) DNA results are back. They know they are not twins. Where is the EXACT ethnicity of these children? Don't jump on me for expecting them to live up to their word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Uh genius, they cant be 100% certain who the mother is or isn’t until they analyze the suspect mother’s DNA against the baby(s)’s, which hasnt happened yet, n’est pas? They had to get the Filipino woman’s DNA for analysis, as standard operating procedure, just to rule out any and all probabilities. I’m no forensics expert, but I would think racial categorization of DNA has a far larger margin of error than linking it to a specific person.</p></blockquote>
<p>Uh bj, the police announced prior to even determining the French resident was the father that the babies were likely Caucasian. The forensic experts, as you so readily admit you are not, then proceeded to say that after DNA testing they would be able to determine the race of the babies as well as whether or not they were twins (경찰은 국립과학수사연구소로부터 넘겨받은 영아 시신 2구의 1차 부검결과에 대한 분석을 통해 숨진 영아들이 백인일 가능성이 큰 것으로 보고 있으나 정확한 인종이나 쌍둥이 여부 등은 DNA 분석 결과가 나와야 확인될 것으로 보인다.) DNA results are back. They know they are not twins. Where is the EXACT ethnicity of these children? Don&#8217;t jump on me for expecting them to live up to their word.</p>
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		<title>By: hardyandtiny</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/07/30/french-homeowner-father-of-frozen-babies/#comment-44915</link>
		<dc:creator>hardyandtiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 06:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"We can't leave out this possibility because blood spots that were discovered on the floor of the house could have been from the dead babies," police said.

Don't ya think the priority should have been determining if that blood found matches to one of the babies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We can&#8217;t leave out this possibility because blood spots that were discovered on the floor of the house could have been from the dead babies,&#8221; police said.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t ya think the priority should have been determining if that blood found matches to one of the babies?</p>
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		<title>By: bluejives</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluejives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"So they can’t tell the difference between an all Caucasian baby and a half-Phillipino baby With their amazing DNA technology?"

Uh genius, they can't be 100% certain who the mother is or isn't until they analyze the suspect mother's DNA against the baby(s)'s, which hasn't happened yet, n'est pas? They had to get the Filipino woman's DNA for analysis, as standard operating procedure, just to rule out any and all probabilities. I'm no forensics expert, but I would think racial categorization of DNA has a far larger margin of error than linking it to a specific person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So they can’t tell the difference between an all Caucasian baby and a half-Phillipino baby With their amazing DNA technology?&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh genius, they can&#8217;t be 100% certain who the mother is or isn&#8217;t until they analyze the suspect mother&#8217;s DNA against the baby(s)&#8217;s, which hasn&#8217;t happened yet, n&#8217;est pas? They had to get the Filipino woman&#8217;s DNA for analysis, as standard operating procedure, just to rule out any and all probabilities. I&#8217;m no forensics expert, but I would think racial categorization of DNA has a far larger margin of error than linking it to a specific person.</p>
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		<title>By: bluejives</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluejives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As my high school French teacher used to say, Sacré Bleu!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As my high school French teacher used to say, Sacré Bleu!</p>
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		<title>By: dda</title>
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		<dc:creator>dda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;no other than the French homeowner himself&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I believe he's just a tenant, not the owner.

&lt;blockquote&gt;My guess is that the guy is in the clear criminally speaking - unless the girl is under age, but he will soon be divorced, and since it sounds like he has money, he will end up seeing most of it go to his betrayed wife.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That's judging things with a very US-biased eye. Matrimonial laws are quite a bit different in France, and wimin usually can't take their soon-to-be ex to the cleaners – unless there's a prenup in her favour, a very small minority. A divorce means 50-50 and an allimony for the kids.

OTOH, this dude's life has just gone north of peaceful. I dunno about money – these Pangbae dudes are mostly living on company monies, and while I'm sure they save some, only the real big machers make serious money. But on top of getting an interesting moment or two with the Missus, I don't think his current employment – let alone another cushy expat job – is going to last long. And after being fired for gross misconduct, finding another job "Any referrals from your previous job, Sir?" is going to be a real challenge.

&lt;blockquote&gt;What are they going to pin on the French?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Stealing National Treasures™, polluting the National Genepool™ [but thankfully using modern Korean appliances to limit the damage], harbouring wanted criminals [from Mr. K. to Mr. C., a French-Korean criminal saga], and making cheese that smell worse than 청국장.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>no other than the French homeowner himself</p></blockquote>
<p>I believe he&#8217;s just a tenant, not the owner.</p>
<blockquote><p>My guess is that the guy is in the clear criminally speaking - unless the girl is under age, but he will soon be divorced, and since it sounds like he has money, he will end up seeing most of it go to his betrayed wife.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s judging things with a very US-biased eye. Matrimonial laws are quite a bit different in France, and wimin usually can&#8217;t take their soon-to-be ex to the cleaners – unless there&#8217;s a prenup in her favour, a very small minority. A divorce means 50-50 and an allimony for the kids.</p>
<p>OTOH, this dude&#8217;s life has just gone north of peaceful. I dunno about money – these Pangbae dudes are mostly living on company monies, and while I&#8217;m sure they save some, only the real big machers make serious money. But on top of getting an interesting moment or two with the Missus, I don&#8217;t think his current employment – let alone another cushy expat job – is going to last long. And after being fired for gross misconduct, finding another job &#8220;Any referrals from your previous job, Sir?&#8221; is going to be a real challenge.</p>
<blockquote><p>What are they going to pin on the French?</p></blockquote>
<p>Stealing National Treasures™, polluting the National Genepool™ [but thankfully using modern Korean appliances to limit the damage], harbouring wanted criminals [from Mr. K. to Mr. C., a French-Korean criminal saga], and making cheese that smell worse than 청국장.</p>
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		<title>By: 조엘</title>
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		<dc:creator>조엘</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Police are working under the assumption that the man had a secret affair with an as yet unidentified woman or women. 

They currently believe that &lt;b&gt;either the man's 47-year-old housemaid or a young Caucasian girl who was seen loitering in front of the house could be the mother.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So they can't tell the difference between an all Caucasian baby and a half-Phillipino baby With their amazing DNA technology?

&lt;blockquote&gt;The housemaid, who came back from vacation Thursday, was questioned by investigators yesterday, but no significant evidence proving her involvement was found. She also left Korea two days before the man's family did.

Police have taken a DNA sample from the housemaid for comparison with the babies. 

So far, the investigation has raised the possibility that the baby boys discovered in the freezer may not share the same mother. 

"What we have found is that the two babies are not identical twins. As of this point, we're not sure yet if the two babies are from the same mother," police said. 

"But if they're from separate mothers, the investigation has to be conducted again from the very start."&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah starting over, like before they let the biological father flee the country is one idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Police are working under the assumption that the man had a secret affair with an as yet unidentified woman or women. </p>
<p>They currently believe that <b>either the man&#8217;s 47-year-old housemaid or a young Caucasian girl who was seen loitering in front of the house could be the mother.</b></p></blockquote>
<p>So they can&#8217;t tell the difference between an all Caucasian baby and a half-Phillipino baby With their amazing DNA technology?</p>
<blockquote><p>The housemaid, who came back from vacation Thursday, was questioned by investigators yesterday, but no significant evidence proving her involvement was found. She also left Korea two days before the man&#8217;s family did.</p>
<p>Police have taken a DNA sample from the housemaid for comparison with the babies. </p>
<p>So far, the investigation has raised the possibility that the baby boys discovered in the freezer may not share the same mother. </p>
<p>&#8220;What we have found is that the two babies are not identical twins. As of this point, we&#8217;re not sure yet if the two babies are from the same mother,&#8221; police said. </p>
<p>&#8220;But if they&#8217;re from separate mothers, the investigation has to be conducted again from the very start.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah starting over, like before they let the biological father flee the country is one idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Wedge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wedge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this shite is getting weird. I think if a guy is needed for questioning in a murder investigation you have the right to keep his passport, eh? Keystone Kops indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this shite is getting weird. I think if a guy is needed for questioning in a murder investigation you have the right to keep his passport, eh? Keystone Kops indeed.</p>
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