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	<title>Comments on: Mike Breen on the President Roh&#8217;s &#8216;headbutt&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: sunbin</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"baduk from United States    Says: 
July 16th, 2006 at 3:09 pm 
Sunbin,
Your two articles are garbages."

cato and IHT are respected institution. i believe we know what is garbage and what is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;baduk from United States    Says:<br />
July 16th, 2006 at 3:09 pm<br />
Sunbin,<br />
Your two articles are garbages.&#8221;</p>
<p>cato and IHT are respected institution. i believe we know what is garbage and what is not.</p>
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		<title>By: Origami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Origami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 20:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still, don't understand just what this idiot Micheal Breen is saying.

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Here’s our game: We know that North Korea is a sad failure of a state with a leadership that doesn’t allow proper elections because, if it did, it would have been voted out years ago. This wretched country once thought of itself as the rightful owner of our beloved peninsula. Now it’s struggling to survive. It has lots of soldiers and a few nuclear weapons, which it employs for leverage. We’re not bothered by them. The real downer is that one day we’re going to wake up and find North Korea has collapsed and we, South Koreans, will have to bear the social and economic burden. That’s why we’re engaging them _ to soften the landing. The annoying reality is that our two closest allies, America and Japan, between them caused this whole mess in the first place, and haven’t even apologized. That’s all in the past, but what isn’t is their belligerence. In America’s case, President Bush is a stupid foreigner who doesn’t understand Korean culture. But the Japanese know better and are just cynically using North Korea as an excuse to return to their old unpleasant ways. The real danger is that overreaction by Washington or Tokyo, for whatever dubious motives, carries with it serious unintended consequences, all of which will make life worse for us.
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Is he saying Korea still should maintain "Sunshine Policy"?

Just how the fuck is N. Korea going to come down on a "soft landing," when the same nauseating policy is propping it up?

They act like they're dealing with a reasonably sane person here.
Since when has a Communist Dictator shown himself to be "reasonably sane"? 



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This is how a majority of Koreans see things. 

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Is that how majority of Koreans really see it Micheal, or, is that how you see it? Judging by the recent elections there, you're only off by a fucking light year.

 


 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still, don&#8217;t understand just what this idiot Micheal Breen is saying.</p>
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Here’s our game: We know that North Korea is a sad failure of a state with a leadership that doesn’t allow proper elections because, if it did, it would have been voted out years ago. This wretched country once thought of itself as the rightful owner of our beloved peninsula. Now it’s struggling to survive. It has lots of soldiers and a few nuclear weapons, which it employs for leverage. We’re not bothered by them. The real downer is that one day we’re going to wake up and find North Korea has collapsed and we, South Koreans, will have to bear the social and economic burden. That’s why we’re engaging them _ to soften the landing. The annoying reality is that our two closest allies, America and Japan, between them caused this whole mess in the first place, and haven’t even apologized. That’s all in the past, but what isn’t is their belligerence. In America’s case, President Bush is a stupid foreigner who doesn’t understand Korean culture. But the Japanese know better and are just cynically using North Korea as an excuse to return to their old unpleasant ways. The real danger is that overreaction by Washington or Tokyo, for whatever dubious motives, carries with it serious unintended consequences, all of which will make life worse for us.<br />
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<p>Is he saying Korea still should maintain &#8220;Sunshine Policy&#8221;?</p>
<p>Just how the fuck is N. Korea going to come down on a &#8220;soft landing,&#8221; when the same nauseating policy is propping it up?</p>
<p>They act like they&#8217;re dealing with a reasonably sane person here.<br />
Since when has a Communist Dictator shown himself to be &#8220;reasonably sane&#8221;? </p>
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This is how a majority of Koreans see things. </p>
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<p>Is that how majority of Koreans really see it Micheal, or, is that how you see it? Judging by the recent elections there, you&#8217;re only off by a fucking light year.</p>
<p>Not</p>
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		<title>By: Origami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Origami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 20:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may sound like a broken record, but,

This delusional mindset that the North and South can ever come together has got to come to an end.

As long as Kim Jong-ILL's in power and China's Communist government will up and leave to another part of the universe. It will never happen.

I will never understand the Left-Wing Socialists who continue to blame US-Japanese Alliance for this mess. It's incomprehensible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may sound like a broken record, but,</p>
<p>This delusional mindset that the North and South can ever come together has got to come to an end.</p>
<p>As long as Kim Jong-ILL&#8217;s in power and China&#8217;s Communist government will up and leave to another part of the universe. It will never happen.</p>
<p>I will never understand the Left-Wing Socialists who continue to blame US-Japanese Alliance for this mess. It&#8217;s incomprehensible.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendon Carr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendon Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 07:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; an ugly baby. Still, I prefer the cat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s <b>not</b> an ugly baby. Still, I prefer the cat.</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/07/13/mike-breen-on-the-president-rohs-headbutt/#comment-43713</link>
		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 06:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many Korean pundits predicted China will curb NK nuke because China does not want its neighbor to have a nuke capability and NK nuke will make it easier for Japan and Korea to have nukes.

Dead wrong! 

China does not mind NK nuke.  Sometimes, it seems that China is supporting NK nuke. F***ing six party gibberish and all.

In the same way, China loves NK missiles. And, I believe, China is the one who told NK to have nuke and missiles.

Therefore, this fancy Justin Logan guy is wrong about China wanting to curb NK missiles.  Actually, Christopher Hill said that he has an evidence that KJI talked to China right before the launch.  I am sure that the communication was to get the last minute Chinese permission.

There are so few strategists in the world who see the situation in the correct light.  Even if they know China is behind it all, they are afraid to say it outloud because people are comfortable to think NK is acting by itself and China is helping the US to dissolve the situation.  Another case of the proverbial Emperor without clothes! Churchill was the only one who exposed Hitler when entire English House believed that he was a man of peace. China needs to be exposed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many Korean pundits predicted China will curb NK nuke because China does not want its neighbor to have a nuke capability and NK nuke will make it easier for Japan and Korea to have nukes.</p>
<p>Dead wrong! </p>
<p>China does not mind NK nuke.  Sometimes, it seems that China is supporting NK nuke. F***ing six party gibberish and all.</p>
<p>In the same way, China loves NK missiles. And, I believe, China is the one who told NK to have nuke and missiles.</p>
<p>Therefore, this fancy Justin Logan guy is wrong about China wanting to curb NK missiles.  Actually, Christopher Hill said that he has an evidence that KJI talked to China right before the launch.  I am sure that the communication was to get the last minute Chinese permission.</p>
<p>There are so few strategists in the world who see the situation in the correct light.  Even if they know China is behind it all, they are afraid to say it outloud because people are comfortable to think NK is acting by itself and China is helping the US to dissolve the situation.  Another case of the proverbial Emperor without clothes! Churchill was the only one who exposed Hitler when entire English House believed that he was a man of peace. China needs to be exposed.</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
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		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 06:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunbin,

Your two articles are garbages.  I like the reply by Justin Logan quoted on the second reference.

"Countries like North Korea pose a greater threat to Japan than to the United States, and a "normalized" Japanese defense posture would reflect that reality."
---Translation: Japan must wipe its own ass.  Japan needs to take leading role in defending Japan.  The US should do less (or, none.)

"To the extent that North Korea's behavior prods Japan to assume a larger role in East Asian security"
---Japan must re-arm and get as strong as China, or more.  At least enough to gain the respect of Koreans.

"this could strain relations between Beijing and Pyongyang. Anything that causes Japan to move toward rearming is highly unwelcome in China." 
---Not necessarily.  Beijing likes Japan to get strong.  Strong enough that Japan would not rely on the US.  China wants Japan to get cocky and break away from the US.   This way the China-Japan War will not include the US.  

China wants to repay Japan, for what she did in China during WWII.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunbin,</p>
<p>Your two articles are garbages.  I like the reply by Justin Logan quoted on the second reference.</p>
<p>&#8220;Countries like North Korea pose a greater threat to Japan than to the United States, and a &#8220;normalized&#8221; Japanese defense posture would reflect that reality.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;Translation: Japan must wipe its own ass.  Japan needs to take leading role in defending Japan.  The US should do less (or, none.)</p>
<p>&#8220;To the extent that North Korea&#8217;s behavior prods Japan to assume a larger role in East Asian security&#8221;<br />
&#8212;Japan must re-arm and get as strong as China, or more.  At least enough to gain the respect of Koreans.</p>
<p>&#8220;this could strain relations between Beijing and Pyongyang. Anything that causes Japan to move toward rearming is highly unwelcome in China.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;Not necessarily.  Beijing likes Japan to get strong.  Strong enough that Japan would not rely on the US.  China wants Japan to get cocky and break away from the US.   This way the China-Japan War will not include the US.  </p>
<p>China wants to repay Japan, for what she did in China during WWII.</p>
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		<title>By: sunbin</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 04:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/07/14/news/edother1.php
Missile defense mooted for Japan
 
TOKYO: Some top government officials have made remarks suggesting that Japan should possess the military capability to attack and destroy North Korea's missile bases before the country actually launches the weapons toward Japan. Our security policy dictates that when Japan comes under attack, the Self-Defense Forces should concentrate on defending the nation, leaving the job of attacking the enemy's bases to U.S. forces. This is the fundamental principle of the strictly defensive security policy Japan has followed in the postwar era. Japan must not rush to change this policy in an overreaction to Pyongyang's provocative missile tests. What North Korea fears most is the military power of the United States. Japan's strategy should focus on seeking a diplomatic solution to such a crisis on the assumption that U.S. power works as an effective deterrent against attacks on Japan. 


http://www.cato.org/homepage_item.php?id=306
Ted Galen Carpenter:
Indeed, even if North Korea were eventually to develop a fleet of missiles capable of reaching U.S. territory, it would be a manageable threat. Granted, every sensible person would wish that the hermit kingdom did not have either nuclear weapons or long-range missiles. But the United States has thousands of nuclear warheads and the means to deliver them with pinpoint accuracy. We have deterred other strange and ruthless regimes in the past, most notably the Soviet Union under Josef Stalin and China under Mao Zedong. 

We should be able to deter the likes of Kim Jong-il. The North Korea regime, while bizarre and brutally repressive, has never shown signs of suicidal behavior. And attacking the United States, which possesses thousands of nukes, would be suicidal. 

Relying on deterrence is far better than embracing reckless proposals to launch preemptive air strikes on North Korea. It is also better than escalating the crisis by adopting Japan's suggestion to impose comprehensive international economic sanctions. We need cool heads to prevail during this difficult time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/07/14/news/edother1.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.iht.com/articles/20.....other1.php</a><br />
Missile defense mooted for Japan</p>
<p>TOKYO: Some top government officials have made remarks suggesting that Japan should possess the military capability to attack and destroy North Korea&#8217;s missile bases before the country actually launches the weapons toward Japan. Our security policy dictates that when Japan comes under attack, the Self-Defense Forces should concentrate on defending the nation, leaving the job of attacking the enemy&#8217;s bases to U.S. forces. This is the fundamental principle of the strictly defensive security policy Japan has followed in the postwar era. Japan must not rush to change this policy in an overreaction to Pyongyang&#8217;s provocative missile tests. What North Korea fears most is the military power of the United States. Japan&#8217;s strategy should focus on seeking a diplomatic solution to such a crisis on the assumption that U.S. power works as an effective deterrent against attacks on Japan. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cato.org/homepage_item.php?id=306" rel="nofollow">http://www.cato.org/homepage_item.php?id=306</a><br />
Ted Galen Carpenter:<br />
Indeed, even if North Korea were eventually to develop a fleet of missiles capable of reaching U.S. territory, it would be a manageable threat. Granted, every sensible person would wish that the hermit kingdom did not have either nuclear weapons or long-range missiles. But the United States has thousands of nuclear warheads and the means to deliver them with pinpoint accuracy. We have deterred other strange and ruthless regimes in the past, most notably the Soviet Union under Josef Stalin and China under Mao Zedong. </p>
<p>We should be able to deter the likes of Kim Jong-il. The North Korea regime, while bizarre and brutally repressive, has never shown signs of suicidal behavior. And attacking the United States, which possesses thousands of nukes, would be suicidal. </p>
<p>Relying on deterrence is far better than embracing reckless proposals to launch preemptive air strikes on North Korea. It is also better than escalating the crisis by adopting Japan&#8217;s suggestion to impose comprehensive international economic sanctions. We need cool heads to prevail during this difficult time.</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
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		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 04:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newsagencies are businesses too.  Have you seen the movie, "Insider"?  Many people think newspaper reporters are neutral.

Far from it.

Editors consider the effect of their articles to the reader.  Would this article sell more papers or less in the future?  Newspaper articles are nearly never neutral.

Sometimes, if a newspaper publish something against Koreans, yes you do have to do something about it.  If a McDonald's restaurant make a commercial ridiculing Koreans, yes you do have to boycott the restaurant.

The same principle should work against newspaper business.  It is "business", even though they pretend not to be so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newsagencies are businesses too.  Have you seen the movie, &#8220;Insider&#8221;?  Many people think newspaper reporters are neutral.</p>
<p>Far from it.</p>
<p>Editors consider the effect of their articles to the reader.  Would this article sell more papers or less in the future?  Newspaper articles are nearly never neutral.</p>
<p>Sometimes, if a newspaper publish something against Koreans, yes you do have to do something about it.  If a McDonald&#8217;s restaurant make a commercial ridiculing Koreans, yes you do have to boycott the restaurant.</p>
<p>The same principle should work against newspaper business.  It is &#8220;business&#8221;, even though they pretend not to be so.</p>
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		<title>By: Zonath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zonath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 22:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad ook

Again, you're way off base, here.  "Thinking about buying" does not equate to "is developing or soon will buy".  For the one talking about bringing facts to the table, you sure do all you can do in order to distort your own (when you don't just make stuff up you know little or nothing about). 

&lt;blockquote&gt;A better discussion can result if you bring facts instead of your emotional outbursts. Are you under age?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hey, I'm not the one with an ugly baby as my avatar picture, or a loose grasp on reality. You might think of bringing some actual facts to the discussion yourself, lest you be in danger of being labelled as just another useless Internet troll.  At any rate, I'm not really interested in discussing your fantasy world any longer, so go ahead and call me emotional and lacking any basis in reality, but that's just the pot calling the kettle black, as far as I'm concerned.  After all, I haven't gone around advocating the expulsion of any particular news agency from Korea based solely on an article unfavorable to a certain poorly-ranked soccer team lately.

Good luck with those delusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad ook</p>
<p>Again, you&#8217;re way off base, here.  &#8220;Thinking about buying&#8221; does not equate to &#8220;is developing or soon will buy&#8221;.  For the one talking about bringing facts to the table, you sure do all you can do in order to distort your own (when you don&#8217;t just make stuff up you know little or nothing about). </p>
<blockquote><p>A better discussion can result if you bring facts instead of your emotional outbursts. Are you under age?</p></blockquote>
<p>Hey, I&#8217;m not the one with an ugly baby as my avatar picture, or a loose grasp on reality. You might think of bringing some actual facts to the discussion yourself, lest you be in danger of being labelled as just another useless Internet troll.  At any rate, I&#8217;m not really interested in discussing your fantasy world any longer, so go ahead and call me emotional and lacking any basis in reality, but that&#8217;s just the pot calling the kettle black, as far as I&#8217;m concerned.  After all, I haven&#8217;t gone around advocating the expulsion of any particular news agency from Korea based solely on an article unfavorable to a certain poorly-ranked soccer team lately.</p>
<p>Good luck with those delusions.</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
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		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 21:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>China, I believe, is still using NK nukes and missiles as an exchange chip for Taiwan.

The Japanese, who are alarmed by the missiles, will influence the US politicians to give up Taiwan to China.

The Japanese has lots of spending money.  They may be successful in giving the Taiwanese to China.  The people with no values other than survival.

If that happens, the US credibility in the region will hit new lows.  China will become the Boss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China, I believe, is still using NK nukes and missiles as an exchange chip for Taiwan.</p>
<p>The Japanese, who are alarmed by the missiles, will influence the US politicians to give up Taiwan to China.</p>
<p>The Japanese has lots of spending money.  They may be successful in giving the Taiwanese to China.  The people with no values other than survival.</p>
<p>If that happens, the US credibility in the region will hit new lows.  China will become the Boss.</p>
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