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	<title>Comments on: wc06: It&#8217;s down to four</title>
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		<title>By: dogbertt</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/07/04/wc06-its-down-to-four/#comment-42334</link>
		<dc:creator>dogbertt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 03:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;After all, pro wrestling has almost as much fakery and acting as soccer, and it’s still popular here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

1. Pro wrestling knows it's entertainment and it knows the fans know it's entertainment.  Soccer, on the other hand, takes itself deathly seriously as a competitive sport.

2. The acting in pro-wrestling is entertaining, the acting in soccer is embarassing.

3. Pro wrestlers actually do get injured. Unlike soccer players, they are not faking that aspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>After all, pro wrestling has almost as much fakery and acting as soccer, and it’s still popular here.</p></blockquote>
<p>1. Pro wrestling knows it&#8217;s entertainment and it knows the fans know it&#8217;s entertainment.  Soccer, on the other hand, takes itself deathly seriously as a competitive sport.</p>
<p>2. The acting in pro-wrestling is entertaining, the acting in soccer is embarassing.</p>
<p>3. Pro wrestlers actually do get injured. Unlike soccer players, they are not faking that aspect.</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/07/04/wc06-its-down-to-four/#comment-42333</link>
		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 03:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Germany played 120 minutes of grueling soccer with Argentina.  I predicted Germany will lose in the next round.

Germany ran out of gas at the end of another 120 minutes.  They are only humans.

Tomorrow, I expect France to win against Poltugal, 2-1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Germany played 120 minutes of grueling soccer with Argentina.  I predicted Germany will lose in the next round.</p>
<p>Germany ran out of gas at the end of another 120 minutes.  They are only humans.</p>
<p>Tomorrow, I expect France to win against Poltugal, 2-1.</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/07/04/wc06-its-down-to-four/#comment-42327</link>
		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 02:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Italy simply outplayed Germany and deserved to win. Lehmann was very busy, and Grosso finally broke thru.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Italy simply outplayed Germany and deserved to win. Lehmann was very busy, and Grosso finally broke thru.</p>
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		<title>By: JiMong</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/07/04/wc06-its-down-to-four/#comment-42281</link>
		<dc:creator>JiMong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 22:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, Sewing,,,
anyting can happen in 2 min.
That's why I was hoping to see some counter strike by German w/in last 5 min...but nothing happened..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, Sewing,,,<br />
anyting can happen in 2 min.<br />
That&#8217;s why I was hoping to see some counter strike by German w/in last 5 min&#8230;but nothing happened..</p>
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		<title>By: sewing</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/07/04/wc06-its-down-to-four/#comment-42280</link>
		<dc:creator>sewing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 22:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much added time was there at the end of extra time?  Looks like Del Piero's goal was actually at 120+1' = 121', according to the match report.  So maybe it is more like the last 5 mins of play, as JiMong said....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much added time was there at the end of extra time?  Looks like Del Piero&#8217;s goal was actually at 120+1&#8242; = 121&#8242;, according to the match report.  So maybe it is more like the last 5 mins of play, as JiMong said&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: sewing</title>
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		<dc:creator>sewing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 21:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Less than 2 minutes!  Grosso's goal was in the 119th minute and Del Piero scored in the 120th minute.  Absolutely incredible.  I was going to go and see the last few minutes of the game on the TV, knowing that the score was 0-0 and it was going to go to penalty kicks.  Next thing I see is the Italians congratulating themselves, and finding out it's suddenly 2-0 at the end of extra time.  It happened so quickly, everyone was still standing around stunned, watching the game like it was still going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Less than 2 minutes!  Grosso&#8217;s goal was in the 119th minute and Del Piero scored in the 120th minute.  Absolutely incredible.  I was going to go and see the last few minutes of the game on the TV, knowing that the score was 0-0 and it was going to go to penalty kicks.  Next thing I see is the Italians congratulating themselves, and finding out it&#8217;s suddenly 2-0 at the end of extra time.  It happened so quickly, everyone was still standing around stunned, watching the game like it was still going on.</p>
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		<title>By: JiMong</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/07/04/wc06-its-down-to-four/#comment-42278</link>
		<dc:creator>JiMong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 21:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Germany 0 - Italy 2

ugh... 5 minutes left. this has been quite an enjoyable game. 

But common German!...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Germany 0 - Italy 2</p>
<p>ugh&#8230; 5 minutes left. this has been quite an enjoyable game. </p>
<p>But common German!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JiMong</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/07/04/wc06-its-down-to-four/#comment-42265</link>
		<dc:creator>JiMong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 18:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My prediction:

Germany 2-1 italy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My prediction:</p>
<p>Germany 2-1 italy</p>
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		<title>By: sewing</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/07/04/wc06-its-down-to-four/#comment-42255</link>
		<dc:creator>sewing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 17:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...For what it's worth, (West) Germany, Brazil, France, Sweden, and Poland have each placed third twice (Sweden winning the 3rd-place award the first time in 1950 based on points after the round robin).  Austria, Chile, Portugal, Italy, Croatia, and Turkey have each placed third once.  &lt;a href="http://www.soccerhall.org/history/World_Cup_History.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;This page&lt;/a&gt; gives the US the third-place spot for the first match in Uruguay in 1930, but the FIFA page for the tournament doesn't list a third-place award winner.

No, I agree that it is admittedly a pretty depressing result if your side just manages to win third-place, since just a few days earlier, it was defeated by one of the two teams to make to the final&#8212;in the end, the only match anyone &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; cares about.  It's the dream that almost was, but shatteringly, ultimately, wasn't.  It's one last ultimately unsatisfying consolation victory to send you on your way, while everyone else is getting ready for the big game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;For what it&#8217;s worth, (West) Germany, Brazil, France, Sweden, and Poland have each placed third twice (Sweden winning the 3rd-place award the first time in 1950 based on points after the round robin).  Austria, Chile, Portugal, Italy, Croatia, and Turkey have each placed third once.  <a href="http://www.soccerhall.org/history/World_Cup_History.htm" rel="nofollow">This page</a> gives the US the third-place spot for the first match in Uruguay in 1930, but the FIFA page for the tournament doesn&#8217;t list a third-place award winner.</p>
<p>No, I agree that it is admittedly a pretty depressing result if your side just manages to win third-place, since just a few days earlier, it was defeated by one of the two teams to make to the final&mdash;in the end, the only match anyone <i>really</i> cares about.  It&#8217;s the dream that almost was, but shatteringly, ultimately, wasn&#8217;t.  It&#8217;s one last ultimately unsatisfying consolation victory to send you on your way, while everyone else is getting ready for the big game.</p>
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		<title>By: sewing</title>
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		<dc:creator>sewing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do recall that Turkey was the 3rd-place finisher in '02 (defeating South Korea); the 3rd-place match may or may not be an audience cash grab on the part of FIFA, but they've had 3rd-place matches in every tournament since 1934 (except for 1950, when bizarrely there was a 4-team, 6-game round robin Final Round to determine the winner).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do recall that Turkey was the 3rd-place finisher in &#8216;02 (defeating South Korea); the 3rd-place match may or may not be an audience cash grab on the part of FIFA, but they&#8217;ve had 3rd-place matches in every tournament since 1934 (except for 1950, when bizarrely there was a 4-team, 6-game round robin Final Round to determine the winner).</p>
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