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		<title>By: Norwegian Embassy...Prepare to Have Your Home Page Shut Down &#124;</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/24/koreans-robbed-by-crappy-officiating/#comment-183585</link>
		<dc:creator>Norwegian Embassy...Prepare to Have Your Home Page Shut Down &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] lost a game that included a bad call (the call itself wasn&#8217;t the reason Korea lost the game) Korean netizens flooded the homepages of FIFA, the Swiss Embassy in Korea, and the Swiss tourism agency, eventually shutting them [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] lost a game that included a bad call (the call itself wasn&#8217;t the reason Korea lost the game) Korean netizens flooded the homepages of FIFA, the Swiss Embassy in Korea, and the Swiss tourism agency, eventually shutting them [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Asia-Watch</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/24/koreans-robbed-by-crappy-officiating/#comment-40926</link>
		<dc:creator>Asia-Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Marmot&#8217;s Hole:  First article, Second article It seems like there is never a day that goes by without Korean nationalists somehow embarassing their country in the eyes of the world&#8230;      By Grom, 26. June 2006, 01:56 o'clock [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Marmot&#8217;s Hole:  First article, Second article It seems like there is never a day that goes by without Korean nationalists somehow embarassing their country in the eyes of the world&#8230;      By Grom, 26. June 2006, 01:56 o&#8217;clock [...]</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/24/koreans-robbed-by-crappy-officiating/#comment-40858</link>
		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 02:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pyroz,

Well, thank you for your kind remarks.

The biggest problem with Korean team is still the lack of basic ball handling skills as pointed out this pundit.

http://www.chosun.com/se/news/200606/200606260078.html

He basically says that Korean player needs several touches to control the ball while better teams(Germany, Argentina, Spain) only need one touch.  He adds this slows down Korean attack and gives chance for other teams to steal the ball.  And, since the transition from defense to offense is so slow, no player bothers to run into an open space.  They wait for the ball to come to them.

I agree.  Korean players can run as fast as other teams.  However, their ball handling skills and passing abilities are terrible.  Koreans need Hiddink, to teach them the basics again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pyroz,</p>
<p>Well, thank you for your kind remarks.</p>
<p>The biggest problem with Korean team is still the lack of basic ball handling skills as pointed out this pundit.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chosun.com/se/news/200606/200606260078.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chosun.com/se/news/.....60078.html</a></p>
<p>He basically says that Korean player needs several touches to control the ball while better teams(Germany, Argentina, Spain) only need one touch.  He adds this slows down Korean attack and gives chance for other teams to steal the ball.  And, since the transition from defense to offense is so slow, no player bothers to run into an open space.  They wait for the ball to come to them.</p>
<p>I agree.  Korean players can run as fast as other teams.  However, their ball handling skills and passing abilities are terrible.  Koreans need Hiddink, to teach them the basics again.</p>
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		<title>By: Maekchu</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/24/koreans-robbed-by-crappy-officiating/#comment-40848</link>
		<dc:creator>Maekchu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 02:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baduk,

1. You implied there was a possibility that the Swiss bribed the officials.  This is just plain silly.  I was trying to point out that no other teams fans make those kinds of silly insinuations after a loss except Korea.  I used France as an example of NOT making these accusations even though they had a bad call go against them.  

2. We mostly agree on this one.  :-)

3. Official records do not say a call was controversial.  Official records only state what was ruled on the field.  Official records will show the second Swiss goal was scored too.  Koreans will still consider this to be blatantly biased.  All I'm saying is in 2002 many similar controversial calls occured that benefitted Korea.  More than anyone else.  Now that they have experienced a controversial call against them, they need to take it easy and stop with the protests and bomb threats.

4.  I'm no expert on Korean behavior, but it's a fact no other country has ever threatened to blow up an embassy after a loss.  You don't need a psychology degree to see the obvious.  It's also a fact that in international competitions, when Korea suffers a defeat they always look for external reasons rather than accepting the loss gracefully.  Nobody can deny this.  

Anyway....you are right about one thing...it's time to move on.  I also think all of this will blow over shortly.  I do wish Korea good luck in 2010.  It's a better WC when they are in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baduk,</p>
<p>1. You implied there was a possibility that the Swiss bribed the officials.  This is just plain silly.  I was trying to point out that no other teams fans make those kinds of silly insinuations after a loss except Korea.  I used France as an example of NOT making these accusations even though they had a bad call go against them.  </p>
<p>2. We mostly agree on this one.  <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>3. Official records do not say a call was controversial.  Official records only state what was ruled on the field.  Official records will show the second Swiss goal was scored too.  Koreans will still consider this to be blatantly biased.  All I&#8217;m saying is in 2002 many similar controversial calls occured that benefitted Korea.  More than anyone else.  Now that they have experienced a controversial call against them, they need to take it easy and stop with the protests and bomb threats.</p>
<p>4.  I&#8217;m no expert on Korean behavior, but it&#8217;s a fact no other country has ever threatened to blow up an embassy after a loss.  You don&#8217;t need a psychology degree to see the obvious.  It&#8217;s also a fact that in international competitions, when Korea suffers a defeat they always look for external reasons rather than accepting the loss gracefully.  Nobody can deny this.  </p>
<p>Anyway&#8230;.you are right about one thing&#8230;it&#8217;s time to move on.  I also think all of this will blow over shortly.  I do wish Korea good luck in 2010.  It&#8217;s a better WC when they are in it.</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
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		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1-2. I wrote before that the goal keeper Lee Unjae made a big booboo for stop playing before the whistle.  I also wrote that the offside call was 50-50.  And, the call did not matter, because even if the goal was voided and Koreans scored the equalizer, Korean team still would not advance due to goal differential.

3."blatantly biased calls"- your opinion.  Official records show otherwise.  Are you implying all three referees were paid off?

4. "Koreans always make trouble and excuses when they lose" - You are no expert on Korean behavior.   Most editorials I read in Korean newspapers said, "Let's move on. And, prepare for 2010 World cup".  

"No other country makes bomb threats against embassies after a defeat except Korea" - Every country has nutcases. Oki bombing, for example.  What was that about?  Do you know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1-2. I wrote before that the goal keeper Lee Unjae made a big booboo for stop playing before the whistle.  I also wrote that the offside call was 50-50.  And, the call did not matter, because even if the goal was voided and Koreans scored the equalizer, Korean team still would not advance due to goal differential.</p>
<p>3.&#8221;blatantly biased calls&#8221;- your opinion.  Official records show otherwise.  Are you implying all three referees were paid off?</p>
<p>4. &#8220;Koreans always make trouble and excuses when they lose&#8221; - You are no expert on Korean behavior.   Most editorials I read in Korean newspapers said, &#8220;Let&#8217;s move on. And, prepare for 2010 World cup&#8221;.  </p>
<p>&#8220;No other country makes bomb threats against embassies after a defeat except Korea&#8221; - Every country has nutcases. Oki bombing, for example.  What was that about?  Do you know?</p>
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		<title>By: Maekchu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maekchu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baduk,

1. I'm saying the referee made a bad call and took away a legitimate goal from France but you don't see the French complaining about corrupt officials.  Only Korea makes these claims (including you) when they get a bad call against them.  Koreans (IMHO) are not mature enough to accept defeat without finding excuses or conspiracies.

2. I'm not sure what you're talking about here.  Korea did not score any goals against the Swiss so if the "offsides" goal were disallowed the score still would have been Swiss 1 and Korea 0.

3.  If you didn't see any bad calls against teams playing Korea in 2002 and 2006 then you are either blind or you know nothing about soccer.  There are video clips on You Tube that show some of the blatantly biased calls that helped Korea in 2002.  There were over 8 horrendous calls that assisted Korea in advancing.  One call against Italy was perhaps the most blatant call I've ever seen in a soccer match.  I'm not trying to take anything away from the 2002 Korea team; I'm just saying Korea has had more calls benefit them than anyone else and now that one went against them they need to relax.

4. English soccer hooligans are a poor comparrison as they cause trouble both before and after games no matter who won the game.  Koreans always make trouble and excuses when they lose. No other country makes bomb threats against embassies after a defeat except Korea.  The fact that even an educated person such as yourself can't admit to these problems shows Koreans are blind to their own faults and will always blame others for their defeats.  It's very childish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baduk,</p>
<p>1. I&#8217;m saying the referee made a bad call and took away a legitimate goal from France but you don&#8217;t see the French complaining about corrupt officials.  Only Korea makes these claims (including you) when they get a bad call against them.  Koreans (IMHO) are not mature enough to accept defeat without finding excuses or conspiracies.</p>
<p>2. I&#8217;m not sure what you&#8217;re talking about here.  Korea did not score any goals against the Swiss so if the &#8220;offsides&#8221; goal were disallowed the score still would have been Swiss 1 and Korea 0.</p>
<p>3.  If you didn&#8217;t see any bad calls against teams playing Korea in 2002 and 2006 then you are either blind or you know nothing about soccer.  There are video clips on You Tube that show some of the blatantly biased calls that helped Korea in 2002.  There were over 8 horrendous calls that assisted Korea in advancing.  One call against Italy was perhaps the most blatant call I&#8217;ve ever seen in a soccer match.  I&#8217;m not trying to take anything away from the 2002 Korea team; I&#8217;m just saying Korea has had more calls benefit them than anyone else and now that one went against them they need to relax.</p>
<p>4. English soccer hooligans are a poor comparrison as they cause trouble both before and after games no matter who won the game.  Koreans always make trouble and excuses when they lose. No other country makes bomb threats against embassies after a defeat except Korea.  The fact that even an educated person such as yourself can&#8217;t admit to these problems shows Koreans are blind to their own faults and will always blame others for their defeats.  It&#8217;s very childish.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendon Carr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendon Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More from that crazy cat. Take away the only objective measure -- goals scored -- and pick winners on subjective measures by "points"? Like figure skating?

Then Korea will have a "fighting" chance -- since the judges will all be for sale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More from that crazy cat. Take away the only objective measure &#8212; goals scored &#8212; and pick winners on subjective measures by &#8220;points&#8221;? Like figure skating?</p>
<p>Then Korea will have a &#8220;fighting&#8221; chance &#8212; since the judges will all be for sale.</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
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		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 14:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About Korean protest, I think it to be silly and will be over in a few days.

However, I want it to continue.  I have been writing that soccer rules need changing.  It needs to be modernized.  Especially, the off-side rule.

FIFA needs to re-examine the off-side rule.  Outside experts from other sports have to be consulted to make the rule more palatable for fans.  FIFA may end up with the system similar to NFL; many referees communicating with microphone and instant video reference.

However, the game itself needs to be cleaned up.  Too many fouls and dirty plays.  I hate to see slow motion because I see players punching/pushing/pulling/stepping/kicking/spitting etc.  Soccer at present time is a dirty sports.  I want to get it cleaned up.  

A judging system is another alternative.  Instead of deciding the winner by goals, look at how they play.  Like picking a winner in boxing match, ten referees from different countries will look at how the game progressed.  If a team plays dirty, automatic point deduction.  If one team scores, add points.  The team with more points wins.

A system to clean up the soccer is badly needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About Korean protest, I think it to be silly and will be over in a few days.</p>
<p>However, I want it to continue.  I have been writing that soccer rules need changing.  It needs to be modernized.  Especially, the off-side rule.</p>
<p>FIFA needs to re-examine the off-side rule.  Outside experts from other sports have to be consulted to make the rule more palatable for fans.  FIFA may end up with the system similar to NFL; many referees communicating with microphone and instant video reference.</p>
<p>However, the game itself needs to be cleaned up.  Too many fouls and dirty plays.  I hate to see slow motion because I see players punching/pushing/pulling/stepping/kicking/spitting etc.  Soccer at present time is a dirty sports.  I want to get it cleaned up.  </p>
<p>A judging system is another alternative.  Instead of deciding the winner by goals, look at how they play.  Like picking a winner in boxing match, ten referees from different countries will look at how the game progressed.  If a team plays dirty, automatic point deduction.  If one team scores, add points.  The team with more points wins.</p>
<p>A system to clean up the soccer is badly needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 14:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mizar, cut the "we Koreans" crap.  Even if you were Korean, no one has appointed you as spokesperson for the Korean people, and this "we Koreans" this and "we Koreans" that presumes that 46 million Koreans all think alike.  

Regardless of your nationality, you definitely speak for yourself, not 46 million people.  Do you ever post any other ideas besides negative generalizations of Koreans?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mizar, cut the &#8220;we Koreans&#8221; crap.  Even if you were Korean, no one has appointed you as spokesperson for the Korean people, and this &#8220;we Koreans&#8221; this and &#8220;we Koreans&#8221; that presumes that 46 million Koreans all think alike.  </p>
<p>Regardless of your nationality, you definitely speak for yourself, not 46 million people.  Do you ever post any other ideas besides negative generalizations of Koreans?</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
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		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am tired of some of you keep using World Cup to bash Koreans.  If you hate Koreans (some of you hate some Koreans and others hate all Koreans- genocide level), just say it.  Don't hide behind soccer game results to make your bias legitimate.

Just come out and say like Xi that you hate Koreans.  I think that is more manly.

And, as I advise another young man, if you hate Koreans so much, why are you wasting your time in Korea.  Life is short and Korea is not the only country in the world.  Instead of wasting your energy hating Koreans, why don't you leave Korea and find some people you can love?

It will be good for you and good for Koreans.  Just go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am tired of some of you keep using World Cup to bash Koreans.  If you hate Koreans (some of you hate some Koreans and others hate all Koreans- genocide level), just say it.  Don&#8217;t hide behind soccer game results to make your bias legitimate.</p>
<p>Just come out and say like Xi that you hate Koreans.  I think that is more manly.</p>
<p>And, as I advise another young man, if you hate Koreans so much, why are you wasting your time in Korea.  Life is short and Korea is not the only country in the world.  Instead of wasting your energy hating Koreans, why don&#8217;t you leave Korea and find some people you can love?</p>
<p>It will be good for you and good for Koreans.  Just go!</p>
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