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		<title>By: Remort</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/22/more-north-korea-missile-stuff/#comment-40380</link>
		<dc:creator>Remort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, we gave North Korea countless opportunities to end the situation peacefully, they resisted, stalled, and haven't taken this situation seriously.  Talk is cheap.  Now is the time for decisive action to prevent North Korea from playing these types of games in the future.  But, more importantly, move closer toward unification, while those who were seperated are still alive and have a chance to see their loved ones before their life is over.

--Remort</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, we gave North Korea countless opportunities to end the situation peacefully, they resisted, stalled, and haven&#8217;t taken this situation seriously.  Talk is cheap.  Now is the time for decisive action to prevent North Korea from playing these types of games in the future.  But, more importantly, move closer toward unification, while those who were seperated are still alive and have a chance to see their loved ones before their life is over.</p>
<p>&#8211;Remort</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Koehler</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/22/more-north-korea-missile-stuff/#comment-40207</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Koehler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 04:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Robert is right, as much as the USA has totally fucked up in Iraq, it has done the correct thing in the Dear Leader’s case. This leads me to wonder, however, how much was by design or accident?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I wonder that myself.  Part of it might be that the administration is split on how to handle North Korea, leading to policy paralysis, i.e., Washington doing nothing about North Korea, which ironically is precisely how North Korea probably should be played.

Another thing to, as Dogbertt has been pointing out, is that it's not like North Korea is in the middle of the Sahara somewhere by its lonesome.  Military action against the North comes at a substantially higher price than it does in, say, the Middle East.  So yeah, the administration might simply be saying, the only way to really disarm North Korea is to invade them or pay them, and the former is too costly and we simply don't want to do the latter, so let them eat plutonium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Robert is right, as much as the USA has totally fucked up in Iraq, it has done the correct thing in the Dear Leader’s case. This leads me to wonder, however, how much was by design or accident?</p></blockquote>
<p>I wonder that myself.  Part of it might be that the administration is split on how to handle North Korea, leading to policy paralysis, i.e., Washington doing nothing about North Korea, which ironically is precisely how North Korea probably should be played.</p>
<p>Another thing to, as Dogbertt has been pointing out, is that it&#8217;s not like North Korea is in the middle of the Sahara somewhere by its lonesome.  Military action against the North comes at a substantially higher price than it does in, say, the Middle East.  So yeah, the administration might simply be saying, the only way to really disarm North Korea is to invade them or pay them, and the former is too costly and we simply don&#8217;t want to do the latter, so let them eat plutonium.</p>
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		<title>By: kimchipig</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/22/more-north-korea-missile-stuff/#comment-40173</link>
		<dc:creator>kimchipig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 01:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remort, haven't you learned anything from the Iraq debacle? Recall the "Bring it on" farce?

Or are you just a troll?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remort, haven&#8217;t you learned anything from the Iraq debacle? Recall the &#8220;Bring it on&#8221; farce?</p>
<p>Or are you just a troll?</p>
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		<title>By: Remort</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/22/more-north-korea-missile-stuff/#comment-40044</link>
		<dc:creator>Remort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go ahead and launch it North Korea, we'll knock your asses back into the stone age.  We just might take care of China, Russia and Cuba too while we're at it.

--Remort</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go ahead and launch it North Korea, we&#8217;ll knock your asses back into the stone age.  We just might take care of China, Russia and Cuba too while we&#8217;re at it.</p>
<p>&#8211;Remort</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;"It is also pretty obvious that tyrants do not live forever"&lt;/b&gt;

KJI is rumored to have health problems, and in footage of Hu and KJI walking down the red carpet together, broadast on Nork TV, Hu strode confidently with shoulders erect while KJI slouched along in his grunge wear.  KJI did not look vigorous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>&#8220;It is also pretty obvious that tyrants do not live forever&#8221;</b></p>
<p>KJI is rumored to have health problems, and in footage of Hu and KJI walking down the red carpet together, broadast on Nork TV, Hu strode confidently with shoulders erect while KJI slouched along in his grunge wear.  KJI did not look vigorous.</p>
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		<title>By: kimchipig</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/22/more-north-korea-missile-stuff/#comment-40008</link>
		<dc:creator>kimchipig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert is right, as much as the USA has totally fucked up in Iraq, it has done the correct thing in the Dear Leader's case. This leads me to wonder, however, how much was by design or accident?

In NK's case, the USA simply does not have the manpower. The US Army is tied up in a Sunni-Shia civil war in Iraq and could not do much in Korea even if it wanted to. It is also pretty obvious that tyrants do not live forever. It would be a much better scenario for NK's people to overthrow their despot and decide their own destiny. Perhaps there is a lesson to be learn here?

Besides, Bush, Cheney and Wolfie went to Iraq to get the oil. Unfortunately the enemy did not play to their tune, as Saadam promised before the invasion. 

There is nothing worth fighting for in NK and I don't buy the "freedom and democracy" manta because the Dear Leader is every bit as bad, or even worse, than Saadam ever was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert is right, as much as the USA has totally fucked up in Iraq, it has done the correct thing in the Dear Leader&#8217;s case. This leads me to wonder, however, how much was by design or accident?</p>
<p>In NK&#8217;s case, the USA simply does not have the manpower. The US Army is tied up in a Sunni-Shia civil war in Iraq and could not do much in Korea even if it wanted to. It is also pretty obvious that tyrants do not live forever. It would be a much better scenario for NK&#8217;s people to overthrow their despot and decide their own destiny. Perhaps there is a lesson to be learn here?</p>
<p>Besides, Bush, Cheney and Wolfie went to Iraq to get the oil. Unfortunately the enemy did not play to their tune, as Saadam promised before the invasion. </p>
<p>There is nothing worth fighting for in NK and I don&#8217;t buy the &#8220;freedom and democracy&#8221; manta because the Dear Leader is every bit as bad, or even worse, than Saadam ever was.</p>
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		<title>By: Radical Moderation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radical Moderation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 13:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;NK, Nukes, and Alliances Swimming Around My Head...&lt;/strong&gt;

Jodi gives me a chance to get a post down and dirty before all the articles swimming around in my head just coalesce in goo and then explode in my brain. I&#8217;ve considered a Korea-related paper for two terms now, first in my Japan class and now in ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>NK, Nukes, and Alliances Swimming Around My Head&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Jodi gives me a chance to get a post down and dirty before all the articles swimming around in my head just coalesce in goo and then explode in my brain. I&#8217;ve considered a Korea-related paper for two terms now, first in my Japan class and now in &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: usinkorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/22/more-north-korea-missile-stuff/#comment-39977</link>
		<dc:creator>usinkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Jesus, this crisis is like listening to Bolero…only not nearly as much fun. just get it over with, guys, one way or another!"

So much to chew over and ponder.

Quiet profound.

Thanks for adding it to the discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jesus, this crisis is like listening to Bolero…only not nearly as much fun. just get it over with, guys, one way or another!&#8221;</p>
<p>So much to chew over and ponder.</p>
<p>Quiet profound.</p>
<p>Thanks for adding it to the discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: dogbertt</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogbertt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 09:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Mauritania had a bug up its bum about the U.S. and was threatening to test-fire an ICBM over the Atlantic Ocean, I would hope the U.S. would take a more aggressive stance than it is against North Korea.  I maintain that the U.S. is hobbled because of the existence of South Korea and China and for that reason  South Koreans should not be all giggly about their co-ethnics in the North "standing up" to the U.S.

FYI, the U.S. did bomb Libya, killing Qaddafi's adopted daughter.  I think that the U.S. considered that reprisal enough at the time.

Of course, Koreans hyperbolically call for the death of America and Japan all the time and can be safely ignored.  It's when they take concrete steps to threaten the safety of the U.S. or Americans (as Libya did) that action need be taken.

Now that li'l Kim has been spotted at an Eric Clapton concert, maybe it's time to kidnap the little 'mo and put some pressure on dad that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Mauritania had a bug up its bum about the U.S. and was threatening to test-fire an ICBM over the Atlantic Ocean, I would hope the U.S. would take a more aggressive stance than it is against North Korea.  I maintain that the U.S. is hobbled because of the existence of South Korea and China and for that reason  South Koreans should not be all giggly about their co-ethnics in the North &#8220;standing up&#8221; to the U.S.</p>
<p>FYI, the U.S. did bomb Libya, killing Qaddafi&#8217;s adopted daughter.  I think that the U.S. considered that reprisal enough at the time.</p>
<p>Of course, Koreans hyperbolically call for the death of America and Japan all the time and can be safely ignored.  It&#8217;s when they take concrete steps to threaten the safety of the U.S. or Americans (as Libya did) that action need be taken.</p>
<p>Now that li&#8217;l Kim has been spotted at an Eric Clapton concert, maybe it&#8217;s time to kidnap the little &#8216;mo and put some pressure on dad that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Zonath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zonath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 09:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If North Korea bordered Mali and the Western Sahara rather than South Korea and China I doubt Kim Jong-il would be the mouthy arrogant little dwarf he is.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If North Korea bordered Mali and the Western Sahara, it'd be Mauritania, and the United States would probably ignore it.  :P  Of course, I'm not so sure being in such a position would mean that Jong-il would be any less of a mouthy prick.  After all, Libya is in the same general area, and Kadaffi (or however you spell it) never seemed too reserved in calling for the death of America... even after the USA tried to bomb him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If North Korea bordered Mali and the Western Sahara rather than South Korea and China I doubt Kim Jong-il would be the mouthy arrogant little dwarf he is.
</p></blockquote>
<p>If North Korea bordered Mali and the Western Sahara, it&#8217;d be Mauritania, and the United States would probably ignore it.  <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  Of course, I&#8217;m not so sure being in such a position would mean that Jong-il would be any less of a mouthy prick.  After all, Libya is in the same general area, and Kadaffi (or however you spell it) never seemed too reserved in calling for the death of America&#8230; even after the USA tried to bomb him.</p>
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