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	<title>Comments on: Refereeing controversy?  What refereeing controversy?</title>
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		<title>By: Mizar5</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/20/refereeing-controversy-what-refereeing-controversy/#comment-40775</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizar5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Sonagi, you're more astute than I assumed. I thought you might be fooled into mistaking that for argumentum ad hominem, but no...you're not that dumb...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Sonagi, you&#8217;re more astute than I assumed. I thought you might be fooled into mistaking that for argumentum ad hominem, but no&#8230;you&#8217;re not that dumb&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/20/refereeing-controversy-what-refereeing-controversy/#comment-40771</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;"Indeed, it is a perfect example of the exploration of ideas as opposed to argumentum ad hominem. Had it been argumenum ad hominem it would have skirted the issue and attacked the person as a primary line of defense. Being able to tell the difference is half the battle."&lt;/b&gt;

Next time you come to America, Mizar, I'd like to meet you to get some tips on logical debating since I mistook as an adhominom attack this brilliant exploration of ideas in post #125:  

&lt;b&gt;"Friends, be assured that not all Koreans are like this abject loser who has no doubt invited ridicule from others all his life through such insecurity and arrogance and now erroneously credits his own shortcoming to anyone who is not born Korean. 

But he does have one thing going for him - he is indeed fortunate not to have been born English, Italian, Polish, Chinese or any other non-Korean ationality, in which case he would not be able to pull the racist card."&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>&#8220;Indeed, it is a perfect example of the exploration of ideas as opposed to argumentum ad hominem. Had it been argumenum ad hominem it would have skirted the issue and attacked the person as a primary line of defense. Being able to tell the difference is half the battle.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>Next time you come to America, Mizar, I&#8217;d like to meet you to get some tips on logical debating since I mistook as an adhominom attack this brilliant exploration of ideas in post #125:  </p>
<p><b>&#8220;Friends, be assured that not all Koreans are like this abject loser who has no doubt invited ridicule from others all his life through such insecurity and arrogance and now erroneously credits his own shortcoming to anyone who is not born Korean. </p>
<p>But he does have one thing going for him - he is indeed fortunate not to have been born English, Italian, Polish, Chinese or any other non-Korean ationality, in which case he would not be able to pull the racist card.&#8221;</b></p>
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		<title>By: dda</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/20/refereeing-controversy-what-refereeing-controversy/#comment-40746</link>
		<dc:creator>dda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JiMong from Canada wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth, Mizar5!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As long as it's green, man...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JiMong from Canada wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I’m already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth, Mizar5!</p></blockquote>
<p>As long as it&#8217;s green, man&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mizar5</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/20/refereeing-controversy-what-refereeing-controversy/#comment-40722</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizar5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 14:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Kushibo: "Absolutely fascinating. I would really love to meet with him and learn what makes him tick, to see how he got to where he is."&lt;/i&gt;

Sounds almost nonduplicitous - the mendacity is barely perceptible. You're starting to win me over, I tell you.

&lt;i&gt;Shakuhachi:"The only utility of claiming to be Korean in being critical about Korea is to avoid being labeled racist by hyper-sensitive and kettle-calling-pot-black Koreans and clueless foreigners."&lt;/i&gt;

Admittedly, I preclude the factor of race/nationality to argue from a strictly empirical/intellectual standpoint, remaining aloof from flame wars swirling around nothing more substantial than emotionalism and logical fallacies such as race. So sue me.

&lt;i&gt;Kushibo: "Huh? It’s not about Mizar’s identity. The largest piece of evidence against Mizar5 is what The Marmot said...&lt;/i&gt;

That's a relief. Evidence sounds so... threatening...but when you put it that way, it sounds so much more like...well, unsubstantiated hearsay.

&lt;i&gt;Kushibo: "How does Coffee Bean near the Kyobo sound?"&lt;/i&gt;

Sounds too close to where I work - never shit where you eat, and never drink what gives you the shits.  And never venture  into shitstorms without a paddle.

If you need a better rationalization for evasiveness, let me say that as an Intellectual Independent and a devout agnostioc, I simply will not be seduced by kindness. I prefer to be reviled as
an object of swirling rumor and solipsistic projectionism. 

I leave you with the concluding lines of the Diamond Sutra:

&lt;i&gt;"Thus should you look on all this fleeting world -  

A star at dawn, a bubble in a stream

A flash of lightning in a summer cloud,

A flickering lamp. a phantom and a dream."&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Kushibo: &#8220;Absolutely fascinating. I would really love to meet with him and learn what makes him tick, to see how he got to where he is.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Sounds almost nonduplicitous - the mendacity is barely perceptible. You&#8217;re starting to win me over, I tell you.</p>
<p><i>Shakuhachi:&#8221;The only utility of claiming to be Korean in being critical about Korea is to avoid being labeled racist by hyper-sensitive and kettle-calling-pot-black Koreans and clueless foreigners.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Admittedly, I preclude the factor of race/nationality to argue from a strictly empirical/intellectual standpoint, remaining aloof from flame wars swirling around nothing more substantial than emotionalism and logical fallacies such as race. So sue me.</p>
<p><i>Kushibo: &#8220;Huh? It’s not about Mizar’s identity. The largest piece of evidence against Mizar5 is what The Marmot said&#8230;</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a relief. Evidence sounds so&#8230; threatening&#8230;but when you put it that way, it sounds so much more like&#8230;well, unsubstantiated hearsay.</p>
<p><i>Kushibo: &#8220;How does Coffee Bean near the Kyobo sound?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Sounds too close to where I work - never shit where you eat, and never drink what gives you the shits.  And never venture  into shitstorms without a paddle.</p>
<p>If you need a better rationalization for evasiveness, let me say that as an Intellectual Independent and a devout agnostioc, I simply will not be seduced by kindness. I prefer to be reviled as<br />
an object of swirling rumor and solipsistic projectionism. </p>
<p>I leave you with the concluding lines of the Diamond Sutra:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Thus should you look on all this fleeting world -  </p>
<p>A star at dawn, a bubble in a stream</p>
<p>A flash of lightning in a summer cloud,</p>
<p>A flickering lamp. a phantom and a dream.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: shakuhachi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/20/refereeing-controversy-what-refereeing-controversy/#comment-40695</link>
		<dc:creator>shakuhachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 10:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The largest piece of evidence against Mizar5 is what The Marmot said, and after having a few beers with the guy, I have to tell ya, the dude is full of shit.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nice &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip" rel="nofollow"&gt;Freudian slip&lt;/a&gt; there, 95. Go and meet Mizar5 if the offer is still on the table. Personally, I always thought his claims of Korean ethnicity worked against his arguments, some of which were good. The only utility of claiming to be Korean in being critical about Korea is to avoid being labeled racist by hyper-sensitive and kettle-calling-pot-black Koreans and clueless foreigners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The largest piece of evidence against Mizar5 is what The Marmot said, and after having a few beers with the guy, I have to tell ya, the dude is full of shit.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nice <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip" rel="nofollow">Freudian slip</a> there, 95. Go and meet Mizar5 if the offer is still on the table. Personally, I always thought his claims of Korean ethnicity worked against his arguments, some of which were good. The only utility of claiming to be Korean in being critical about Korea is to avoid being labeled racist by hyper-sensitive and kettle-calling-pot-black Koreans and clueless foreigners.</p>
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		<title>By: kushibo</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/20/refereeing-controversy-what-refereeing-controversy/#comment-40693</link>
		<dc:creator>kushibo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 10:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haisan wrote:
&lt;i&gt;Very weird. My Safari browser resets the comments to #1 after #49.&lt;/i&gt;

Mine, too. However, on Firefox for Macintosh, the numbers do not reset. 

The weird thing is, though, that the bold-face problem started with Sonagi's #49 post. 

Frankly, I think that Mizar5 and I should meet up over a beer and/or coffee to discuss how to fix the bold face problem and the numbers being reset. 

How does Coffee Bean near the Kyobo sound?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haisan wrote:<br />
<i>Very weird. My Safari browser resets the comments to #1 after #49.</i></p>
<p>Mine, too. However, on Firefox for Macintosh, the numbers do not reset. </p>
<p>The weird thing is, though, that the bold-face problem started with Sonagi&#8217;s #49 post. </p>
<p>Frankly, I think that Mizar5 and I should meet up over a beer and/or coffee to discuss how to fix the bold face problem and the numbers being reset. </p>
<p>How does Coffee Bean near the Kyobo sound?</p>
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		<title>By: Haisan</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/20/refereeing-controversy-what-refereeing-controversy/#comment-40692</link>
		<dc:creator>Haisan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 09:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very weird. My Safari browser resets the comments to #1 after #49.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very weird. My Safari browser resets the comments to #1 after #49.</p>
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		<title>By: kushibo</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/20/refereeing-controversy-what-refereeing-controversy/#comment-40690</link>
		<dc:creator>kushibo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 09:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry. Not &lt;i&gt;full&lt;/i&gt; of shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry. Not <i>full</i> of shit.</p>
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		<title>By: kushibo</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/20/refereeing-controversy-what-refereeing-controversy/#comment-40689</link>
		<dc:creator>kushibo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 09:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry. You're not &lt;i&gt;full&lt;/i&gt; of shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry. You&#8217;re not <i>full</i> of shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Koehler</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/20/refereeing-controversy-what-refereeing-controversy/#comment-40685</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Koehler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 08:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The largest piece of evidence against Mizar5 is what The Marmot said, and after having a few beers with the guy, I have to tell ya, the dude is full of shit.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Eh?  What the hell's that supposed to mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The largest piece of evidence against Mizar5 is what The Marmot said, and after having a few beers with the guy, I have to tell ya, the dude is full of shit.</p></blockquote>
<p>Eh?  What the hell&#8217;s that supposed to mean?</p>
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