The Burger King website also lumps Mongolia into the “Africa, Europe, and Russia” category (although it doesn’t specify exactly which region Mongolia belongs to.)
I wonder if this a portent into the near future. Could Korean politics and nationalism piss off the US so much that they let China have the entire peninsula in exchange for Taiwan?
I just noticed that the Burger King map also excludes Taiwan and Hainan Island from their map of China, and lumps them into the category “Asia (Excluding China)”. Burger King: Changing the geopolitical landscape of Asia, one clogged artery at a time. (Nevermind that corporate sales territories often don’t follow geopolitical lines.)
Oh well, at least the VANKers have something to keep them occupied now, what with school going into vacation mode soon. Has anyone started protesting outside the Burger King in Itaewon yet?
What can I say, all your Kimchi whoppers are belong to us! Does this mean Dokdo belongs to China now?
Speaking of which, does BK Korea make Kimchi flavoured burgers?
Anyways, in case anyone else has a keen eye, Nepal has also been lumped into BK’s China region of business.
It’s a map on a burger site for fecks sake! Some webmaster does some sloppy coding, all of Asia comes out one color, the VANKers go wild and Yonhap does a story about it and it’s on the evening news. What a sad, insecure country.
The Vankers need to do their homework. ‘Sea of Japan’ is not the Japanese name for the body of water between Korea and Japan. It is the ENGLISH name. I really resent their attempts to force Korean terminology into English.
The Japanese call it Japan Sea. When are the Vankers going to bitch about Korea Strait and Korea Bay?
If they think that their whining and screaming about how Korea has been ’slighted’ makes Korea look powerful and deserving of respect, they are mistaken. They make Korea and Koreans look ridiculous, sadly. I am glad that most Koreans don’t seem to jump on their bandwagon.
Looking at Nomad’s links, Arthur Patterson does not appear to be 100% Black. Nor does he appear to be 100% Korean (though there is always a risk in judging these things). Judging by his family name and his appearance, Patterson may be mixed, but it’s not 100% apparent what.
At any rate, I had read in one place that he was Black, though most articles didn’t list race/ethnicity at all, but at most that appears to be only half correct.
Anyway, Dogbert is right that they were studying in Korea, though they were here as part of their respective families: Lee was the son of a contractor and Patterson the son of USFK military personnel. It’s not like they came here to study on their own.
Itaewon is also the site of another grisly murder, that of Jamie Penich, a one-year exchange student studying in Taegu. Brendon Carr defended the woman accused of killing her, another exchange student from the US.
“April 3rd, Eddy Lee was with his friends in Burger King in Itaewon and he put the jack knife, which he played with, in his right pocket. After, he said to his friends “I will show you something” and followed Mr. Cho, who was heading for the bathroom, then stabbed Mr. Cho with his knife for no reason at all. Mr. Cho died at that scene because of too much bleeding. After killing Mr. Cho, Lee came out of the bathroom, pretending that nothing happened, and played games with his friends again. It is said that they talked about killing people for fun. Consequently, Eddy Lee was accused of murder and Patterson was caught as a party to the crime.”
“Then Edward Lee stabbed him to death while Patterson held him down. Then, they came out and put on their friends’ shirts and caps, and walked out. As they walked out, they said to their friends, ”We played a bloody game. We killed, for fun.” On April 26th, Edward Lee was convicted of murder and Arthur Patterson was convicted of assault.”
“On April 3, 1997, Joong Pil and his steady girlfriend Jung Eun were on their way to her home in Itaewon after studying at the Kook Ki Won Library. They stopped to use the restroom at the fast food restaurant. Jung Eun went to order soft drinks and Joong Pil went into the restroom.
However, two boys, Korean-American Patterson (17 years old) and Korean Immigrant Edward Lee (18 years old), who were sitting at the table near the restroom, followed Joong Pil into the restroom. They stabbed him when he was using the urinal in the neck and chest, with a knife they normally carried around, severing veins and arteries. The blood from his whole body covered the floor and the ceiling, and he died on the very cold floor of the restroom. Afterwords, the murderer was interrogated by the Prosecutor and the trial began.
The motive for the murder was that Lee killed the victim just for fun. After killing Cho, Lee went back to the table and hung out again with Patterson like nothing had happened while Cho slowly bled to death in the restroom.”
1) Why did they kill the victim?
2) Why did they choose a public place?
3) Is it really a random killing?
If the whole story is what is known, then these two kids are criminally insane. They are random killers and they do not even hide the fact. Sick people. They need to be medicated for life.
Incidents like these raise anti-American feeling in Korea. If these were Korean citizens, they would have been executed for sure. Because they were American citizens, they have been given leniency. Not fair.
Gee, baduk, funny how Michelle Wie, excuse me, SUNG-MI Wie is a Korean and stirs up Korean pride, but Edward Lee is an American and stirs up anti-American feeling.
I don’t see how ‘incidents like these raise anti-American feeling in Korea’. After all, it was the Korean prosecutors who fucked up the prosecution, the Korean Immigration office who fucked up by not extending Mr. Patterson’s exit prohibition, and (I assume) some office of the Korean executive branch that granted clemency. They were given leniency because they were American citizens? Nope. They were given leniency because the Korean government bungled the case and let them get away, plain and simple.
Zonath is right; not only that — baduk, recent Korean convicted serial killers have not even received the death penalty, so brush up a little on current Korean sentencing trends before believing your own hype.
I think it would be kind of fun to make up a bunch of websites with Korea blended as parts of other countries. It would keep Vank busy to no end. Or maybe even append Korea to other countries around teh world–as Manhattan was done in these map photoshops, http://www.kottke.org/plus/manhattan-elsewhere/. (kind of cool photoshops)
Anyhow, I wish BK had been able to penetrate the China market, instead of McD’s.
(total non-sequitur current thought: I am finding bits of rusted wire in my bag of roasted sunflower seeds. WTF? I guess that’s what you get when you buy streetside food.)
Baduk,
They were not given leniency. The Korean legal system completely botched the cases (and a high court reward the victim’s father 100,000,000 won for that).
I don’t have time to look for it at this moment, but if I recall correctly, the Korean prosecutor was prosecuting one person (which I thought was Lee) as the actual murderer, when the CID investigators on post thought all along that the other one (who I thought was Patterson) was the actual murderer.
CID, USFK, etc., were NOT trying to cover this up, get leniency, or anything like that, if I recall correctly. Your gut reaction in this case is wrong.
In the Jamie Penich case the physical evidence was not collected by Gil Grissom, that’s for sure. The investigation spadework was also handled pretty lackadaisically for quite some time by the Korean National Police. If you ask me, there was a lot of circumstantial evidence in the record pointing to an English-speaking male, but beyond that there wasn’t enough specificity to find a single suspect. Which is, of course, why the murder remains unsolved.
Also I got the feeling the FBI was unfair. One point of “evidence” they used was the supposed “fact” that the shower in Jamie Penich’s room could not have dried out in eight hours if Kenzi’s timeline was correct. I went to the Kum Sung Motel (which gave me the willies, really) in the midst of the monsoon season, on a day with 150% humidity, and ran the shower. My own experience was that the shower dried out, in the middle of the rainiest day of the year, well within eight hours. I don’t believe there was a conspiracy to frame Kenzi or anything like that. But it sure seemed that there was a willingness not to follow up certain leads (which were pretty difficult to follow, admittedly) and to view facts in a certain way once they decided Kenzi might have been involved.
Not every crime results in justice. Sometimes there is no resolution at all. What I do know is that after reviewing all the evidence it was pretty plain to us that Kenzi Snider did not commit the crime to which she confessed and for which she was extradited to stand trial in Korea, and that’s why we were glad to help her.
Since the Supreme Court’s final ruling, I’ve left Aurora Law Offices and no longer work with Hong-Kyoung Kim. I’m really proud of the work he did in that case — H.K. deserves all the praise. I just convinced him to take it and helped him with some of the records. Not taking a copy of the record was a mistake. As time goes by my memories will fade and I won’t be able to recall details.
We would not have defended a murderer whom we knew to be guilty. I believe murderers ought to be punished by death. Which doesn’t leave much room for defense services. We do defend other criminals from time to time — usually foreigner drug criminals — because we believe justice is better served by a lighter sentence than Korean courts usually award in those cases.
As for Patterson and Lee, the plain fact is that Korean investigative and prosecutorial techniques suck. Each kid pointed to the other as the perpetrator and claimed to simply be along for the ride. And that’s all they had to do to skate. Korean process depends on a confession and there isn’t much (or any, really) investigative skill at building and proving a theory of the case without the confession of the suspect. In most cases: No confession, no conviction.
when i was in china, a chinese guy told me china’s destiny can be seen in the very shape of the country - which is shaped like a rooster. he told me that soon, the rooster will become hungry, and will want to eat a certain worm - which is Japan. But, before it can eat that worm, it will need a beak - which is, you guessed it, Korea. As for the egg? Taiwan. The feet? SE Asia. The final roost? America. And also, Italy looks like a boot, but that has nothing to do with a big hungry rooster.
Ah the old shape-of-the-country-determines-what-it’ll-be platitude. Pretty standard stuff with the Moonies’ vagina-country / penis-country gambit. Anyone up for a game of Risk at VANK HQ? “WTF, where’s Korea!!??” Mongorea just keeps attacking Japan.
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The Burger King website also lumps Mongolia into the “Africa, Europe, and Russia” category (although it doesn’t specify exactly which region Mongolia belongs to.)
I wonder if this a portent into the near future. Could Korean politics and nationalism piss off the US so much that they let China have the entire peninsula in exchange for Taiwan?
I just noticed that the Burger King map also excludes Taiwan and Hainan Island from their map of China, and lumps them into the category “Asia (Excluding China)”. Burger King: Changing the geopolitical landscape of Asia, one clogged artery at a time.
(Nevermind that corporate sales territories often don’t follow geopolitical lines.)
Oh well, at least the VANKers have something to keep them occupied now, what with school going into vacation mode soon. Has anyone started protesting outside the Burger King in Itaewon yet?
That Burger King in Itaewon deserves a landmark status. Who has not eaten there?
The video camera there will show all foreigners who visited Korea. A true landmark. Burgers and fries taste good, too.
I bet some GIs have asked the owner to call french fries “freedom fries”. Maybe they still do. I will check when I go to Korea next time.
The Burger King in Itaewon is noted for being the site of a gruesome murder of a Hongik student.
I dislike VANK because they’ve turned what would have been a noble goal into an exercise of promoting nationalism.
This Burger King thing is exactly the kind of thing they should be focusing on, not all that other stuff they get in the news over.
What can I say, all your Kimchi whoppers are belong to us! Does this mean Dokdo belongs to China now?
Speaking of which, does BK Korea make Kimchi flavoured burgers?
Anyways, in case anyone else has a keen eye, Nepal has also been lumped into BK’s China region of business.
Anyways, in case anyone else has a keen eye, Nepal has also been lumped into BK’s China region of business.
You’re right! And it seems they got Tibet and Inner Mongolia, as well!
If I’m not mistaken, they’ve swallowed Kyrgyzstan as well.
It’s a map on a burger site for fecks sake! Some webmaster does some sloppy coding, all of Asia comes out one color, the VANKers go wild and Yonhap does a story about it and it’s on the evening news. What a sad, insecure country.
Burger King can easily fix this by coming out with a limited edition Tokdo burger set. Two for the price of one.
Kushibo,
Tell me more about this murder. At BK? Did he/she come in to get a burger? Murder? Why? For a burger?
“That Burger King in Itaewon deserves a landmark status. Who has not eaten there?”
I haven’t.
As for the BK murder, here are a couple of links for you, baduk: Here’s one, Here’s another, and here’s one more.
It was a thrill killing committed by a couple of disaffected kyopos studying in Korea.
Dogbert, I thought the guy who actually did it was Black. Is this not correct?
I thought the murder was by one person, and the cover-up was by he and his buddy, who was in fact a kyopo.
The Vankers need to do their homework. ‘Sea of Japan’ is not the Japanese name for the body of water between Korea and Japan. It is the ENGLISH name. I really resent their attempts to force Korean terminology into English.
The Japanese call it Japan Sea.
When are the Vankers going to bitch about Korea Strait and Korea Bay?
If they think that their whining and screaming about how Korea has been ’slighted’ makes Korea look powerful and deserving of respect, they are mistaken. They make Korea and Koreans look ridiculous, sadly. I am glad that most Koreans don’t seem to jump on their bandwagon.
Looking at Nomad’s links, Arthur Patterson does not appear to be 100% Black. Nor does he appear to be 100% Korean (though there is always a risk in judging these things). Judging by his family name and his appearance, Patterson may be mixed, but it’s not 100% apparent what.
At any rate, I had read in one place that he was Black, though most articles didn’t list race/ethnicity at all, but at most that appears to be only half correct.
Anyway, Dogbert is right that they were studying in Korea, though they were here as part of their respective families: Lee was the son of a contractor and Patterson the son of USFK military personnel. It’s not like they came here to study on their own.
Itaewon is also the site of another grisly murder, that of Jamie Penich, a one-year exchange student studying in Taegu. Brendon Carr defended the woman accused of killing her, another exchange student from the US.
Iceberg, you made me laugh out loud! Fair play!
Not really Brendon Carr — Brendon Carr’s former partner Hong-Kyoung Kim is the attorney who did that excellent work. I just helped him.
Kushibo, all accounts I’ve read have Lee wielding the knife alone and Patterson covering up after the fact.
Sounds like total incompetence of the Korean prosecution. Those two scumbag murderers should be in prison for a long, long time.
Kushibo, all accounts I’ve read have Lee wielding the knife alone and Patterson covering up after the fact.
I thought it was Patterson who was covered in blood, not Lee. I thought it was Patterson whom the CID thought was the murderer.
Snow, one of them is a murderer. The other is an accessory after the fact, I believe.
Brendon, who do you think killed Jamie Penich then?
“April 3rd, Eddy Lee was with his friends in Burger King in Itaewon and he put the jack knife, which he played with, in his right pocket. After, he said to his friends “I will show you something” and followed Mr. Cho, who was heading for the bathroom, then stabbed Mr. Cho with his knife for no reason at all. Mr. Cho died at that scene because of too much bleeding. After killing Mr. Cho, Lee came out of the bathroom, pretending that nothing happened, and played games with his friends again. It is said that they talked about killing people for fun. Consequently, Eddy Lee was accused of murder and Patterson was caught as a party to the crime.”
http://usacrime.or.kr/maybbs/v.....amp;page=2
“Then Edward Lee stabbed him to death while Patterson held him down. Then, they came out and put on their friends’ shirts and caps, and walked out. As they walked out, they said to their friends, ”We played a bloody game. We killed, for fun.” On April 26th, Edward Lee was convicted of murder and Arthur Patterson was convicted of assault.”
http://iacenter.org/Koreafiles.....report.htm
“On April 3, 1997, Joong Pil and his steady girlfriend Jung Eun were on their way to her home in Itaewon after studying at the Kook Ki Won Library. They stopped to use the restroom at the fast food restaurant. Jung Eun went to order soft drinks and Joong Pil went into the restroom.
However, two boys, Korean-American Patterson (17 years old) and Korean Immigrant Edward Lee (18 years old), who were sitting at the table near the restroom, followed Joong Pil into the restroom. They stabbed him when he was using the urinal in the neck and chest, with a knife they normally carried around, severing veins and arteries. The blood from his whole body covered the floor and the ceiling, and he died on the very cold floor of the restroom. Afterwords, the murderer was interrogated by the Prosecutor and the trial began.
The motive for the murder was that Lee killed the victim just for fun. After killing Cho, Lee went back to the table and hung out again with Patterson like nothing had happened while Cho slowly bled to death in the restroom.”
http://jetiranger.tripod.com/B.....id=1033369
The whole thing does not make sense.
1) Why did they kill the victim?
2) Why did they choose a public place?
3) Is it really a random killing?
If the whole story is what is known, then these two kids are criminally insane. They are random killers and they do not even hide the fact. Sick people. They need to be medicated for life.
Incidents like these raise anti-American feeling in Korea. If these were Korean citizens, they would have been executed for sure. Because they were American citizens, they have been given leniency. Not fair.
Gee, baduk, funny how Michelle Wie, excuse me, SUNG-MI Wie is a Korean and stirs up Korean pride, but Edward Lee is an American and stirs up anti-American feeling.
No hypocrisy there, no siree.
I don’t see how ‘incidents like these raise anti-American feeling in Korea’. After all, it was the Korean prosecutors who fucked up the prosecution, the Korean Immigration office who fucked up by not extending Mr. Patterson’s exit prohibition, and (I assume) some office of the Korean executive branch that granted clemency. They were given leniency because they were American citizens? Nope. They were given leniency because the Korean government bungled the case and let them get away, plain and simple.
Zonath is right; not only that — baduk, recent Korean convicted serial killers have not even received the death penalty, so brush up a little on current Korean sentencing trends before believing your own hype.
I think it would be kind of fun to make up a bunch of websites with Korea blended as parts of other countries. It would keep Vank busy to no end. Or maybe even append Korea to other countries around teh world–as Manhattan was done in these map photoshops, http://www.kottke.org/plus/manhattan-elsewhere/. (kind of cool photoshops)
Anyhow, I wish BK had been able to penetrate the China market, instead of McD’s.
(total non-sequitur current thought: I am finding bits of rusted wire in my bag of roasted sunflower seeds. WTF? I guess that’s what you get when you buy streetside food.)
Baduk,
They were not given leniency. The Korean legal system completely botched the cases (and a high court reward the victim’s father 100,000,000 won for that).
I don’t have time to look for it at this moment, but if I recall correctly, the Korean prosecutor was prosecuting one person (which I thought was Lee) as the actual murderer, when the CID investigators on post thought all along that the other one (who I thought was Patterson) was the actual murderer.
CID, USFK, etc., were NOT trying to cover this up, get leniency, or anything like that, if I recall correctly. Your gut reaction in this case is wrong.
In the Jamie Penich case the physical evidence was not collected by Gil Grissom, that’s for sure. The investigation spadework was also handled pretty lackadaisically for quite some time by the Korean National Police. If you ask me, there was a lot of circumstantial evidence in the record pointing to an English-speaking male, but beyond that there wasn’t enough specificity to find a single suspect. Which is, of course, why the murder remains unsolved.
Also I got the feeling the FBI was unfair. One point of “evidence” they used was the supposed “fact” that the shower in Jamie Penich’s room could not have dried out in eight hours if Kenzi’s timeline was correct. I went to the Kum Sung Motel (which gave me the willies, really) in the midst of the monsoon season, on a day with 150% humidity, and ran the shower. My own experience was that the shower dried out, in the middle of the rainiest day of the year, well within eight hours. I don’t believe there was a conspiracy to frame Kenzi or anything like that. But it sure seemed that there was a willingness not to follow up certain leads (which were pretty difficult to follow, admittedly) and to view facts in a certain way once they decided Kenzi might have been involved.
Not every crime results in justice. Sometimes there is no resolution at all. What I do know is that after reviewing all the evidence it was pretty plain to us that Kenzi Snider did not commit the crime to which she confessed and for which she was extradited to stand trial in Korea, and that’s why we were glad to help her.
Since the Supreme Court’s final ruling, I’ve left Aurora Law Offices and no longer work with Hong-Kyoung Kim. I’m really proud of the work he did in that case — H.K. deserves all the praise. I just convinced him to take it and helped him with some of the records. Not taking a copy of the record was a mistake. As time goes by my memories will fade and I won’t be able to recall details.
We would not have defended a murderer whom we knew to be guilty. I believe murderers ought to be punished by death. Which doesn’t leave much room for defense services. We do defend other criminals from time to time — usually foreigner drug criminals — because we believe justice is better served by a lighter sentence than Korean courts usually award in those cases.
As for Patterson and Lee, the plain fact is that Korean investigative and prosecutorial techniques suck. Each kid pointed to the other as the perpetrator and claimed to simply be along for the ride. And that’s all they had to do to skate. Korean process depends on a confession and there isn’t much (or any, really) investigative skill at building and proving a theory of the case without the confession of the suspect. In most cases: No confession, no conviction.
when i was in china, a chinese guy told me china’s destiny can be seen in the very shape of the country - which is shaped like a rooster. he told me that soon, the rooster will become hungry, and will want to eat a certain worm - which is Japan. But, before it can eat that worm, it will need a beak - which is, you guessed it, Korea. As for the egg? Taiwan. The feet? SE Asia. The final roost? America. And also, Italy looks like a boot, but that has nothing to do with a big hungry rooster.
Ah the old shape-of-the-country-determines-what-it’ll-be platitude. Pretty standard stuff with the Moonies’ vagina-country / penis-country gambit. Anyone up for a game of Risk at VANK HQ? “WTF, where’s Korea!!??” Mongorea just keeps attacking Japan.
I wonder what this guy has to say about all this.
This guy.