Comments on: Korean Teachers Union blames English camp sexual assaults on ‘unchecked’ foreign teachers http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/02/korean-teachers-union-blames-english-camp-sexual-assaults-on-unchecked-foreign-teachers/ Korea... in Blog Format Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:53:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Hànyǔ 汉语 » Oh 加拿大! Bilingual today, trilingüe demain? http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/02/korean-teachers-union-blames-english-camp-sexual-assaults-on-unchecked-foreign-teachers/#comment-131311 Hànyǔ 汉语 » Oh 加拿大! Bilingual today, trilingüe demain? Thu, 24 Jan 2008 04:01:29 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/?p=2944#comment-131311 [...] An influx of young globe-trotting native speakers financing their travels by teaching their mother tongue (sound familiar?). Oh no! Better watch out for the pedophiles and lock up your daughters. [...] [...] An influx of young globe-trotting native speakers financing their travels by teaching their mother tongue (sound familiar?). Oh no! Better watch out for the pedophiles and lock up your daughters. [...]

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]]> By: winter12480 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/02/korean-teachers-union-blames-english-camp-sexual-assaults-on-unchecked-foreign-teachers/#comment-38305 winter12480 Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:39:42 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/?p=2944#comment-38305 I am an american who was working as an english teacher in seoul last august when a KOREAN man broke into my house, violently attacked me and assaulted me. I was told by the police and by my school that they didn't want to put anything in the news about this, or even in essence, try to find the man because it would make "all korean men look crazy" . Yeah, but it is ok to try to pen the "crazy sex fiends" on foreigners. I am disgusted by their ignorance I am an american who was working as an english teacher in seoul last august when a KOREAN man broke into my house, violently attacked me and assaulted me. I was told by the police and by my school that they didn’t want to put anything in the news about this, or even in essence, try to find the man because it would make “all korean men look crazy” . Yeah, but it is ok to try to pen the “crazy sex fiends” on foreigners. I am disgusted by their ignorance

]]> By: KTU foreigner quits at The Marmot’s Hole http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/02/korean-teachers-union-blames-english-camp-sexual-assaults-on-unchecked-foreign-teachers/#comment-37289 KTU foreigner quits at The Marmot’s Hole Tue, 06 Jun 2006 16:21:35 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/?p=2944#comment-37289 [...] Jason Thomas, the Canadian English teacher who made the news by becoming the Korean Teachers and Educational Worker’s Union’s first foreign member, has apparently quit the union over a recent statement by the KTU’s Gyeonggi-do office claiming recent sexual assaults at two provincial English camps represented a “structural problem” owing to under-qualified, over-sexed foreign instructors. On his blog, he writes: First, I’ll attempt to explain what I think Gyeonggi KTU was doing with the release. [...] [...] Jason Thomas, the Canadian English teacher who made the news by becoming the Korean Teachers and Educational Worker’s Union’s first foreign member, has apparently quit the union over a recent statement by the KTU’s Gyeonggi-do office claiming recent sexual assaults at two provincial English camps represented a “structural problem” owing to under-qualified, over-sexed foreign instructors. On his blog, he writes: First, I’ll attempt to explain what I think Gyeonggi KTU was doing with the release. [...]

]]> By: Iceberg http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/02/korean-teachers-union-blames-english-camp-sexual-assaults-on-unchecked-foreign-teachers/#comment-37012 Iceberg Sat, 03 Jun 2006 23:18:40 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/?p=2944#comment-37012 In defense of Remort, I imagine English teachers are the root of all evil in SE Asia as well. :-) <i>BTW, when are you going to be back in Seoul?</i> I'm hoping to head up there for a short visit in a couple of weeks. In defense of Remort, I imagine English teachers are the root of all evil in SE Asia as well. :-)

BTW, when are you going to be back in Seoul?

I’m hoping to head up there for a short visit in a couple of weeks.

]]> By: kushibo http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/02/korean-teachers-union-blames-english-camp-sexual-assaults-on-unchecked-foreign-teachers/#comment-37010 kushibo Sat, 03 Jun 2006 22:51:25 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/?p=2944#comment-37010 Remort wrote: <b>Beyond that, most universities in <i>SE Asia</i> (Japan, Korea & Taiwan) are just diploma mills and simply horrible (perhaps similar to junior or community colleges in the States) It does irritate me, a lot in fact, to hear criticism about “unqualified American English teachers” being the root of all evil in SE Asia</b> Psst... superior American university graduate, Korea and Japan are in <i>North</i>east Asia. Taiwan, too, from a geo-political standpoint. Since you repeated the apparent error, I guess it isn't a typo. I hope you don't mind an aristocrat from a top-tiered Korean school correcting your knowledge of geography. If so, a thousand apologies, sir or ma'am. Remort wrote:
Beyond that, most universities in SE Asia (Japan, Korea & Taiwan) are just diploma mills and simply horrible (perhaps similar to junior or community colleges in the States)

It does irritate me, a lot in fact, to hear criticism about “unqualified American English teachers” being the root of all evil in SE Asia

Psst… superior American university graduate, Korea and Japan are in Northeast Asia. Taiwan, too, from a geo-political standpoint.

Since you repeated the apparent error, I guess it isn’t a typo. I hope you don’t mind an aristocrat from a top-tiered Korean school correcting your knowledge of geography. If so, a thousand apologies, sir or ma’am.

]]> By: slim http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/02/korean-teachers-union-blames-english-camp-sexual-assaults-on-unchecked-foreign-teachers/#comment-37002 slim Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:47:02 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/?p=2944#comment-37002 SE Asia begins with Vietnam, Laos and Burma. You are talking about NE Asia, Remort. SE Asia begins with Vietnam, Laos and Burma. You are talking about NE Asia, Remort.

]]> By: Remort http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/02/korean-teachers-union-blames-english-camp-sexual-assaults-on-unchecked-foreign-teachers/#comment-36990 Remort Sat, 03 Jun 2006 14:41:01 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/?p=2944#comment-36990 Mook, Thanks for the reply and insight. I had incorrectly assumed things would be different at "top universities" in Korea; my impressions were largely formed by what students attending these schools conveyed to me. It does irritate me, a lot in fact, to hear criticism about "unqualified American English teachers" being the root of all evil in SE Asia, having graduated from some of the top universities in the world -- while living abroad can be fun at times, all in all it's certainly no picnic. I know I had to really work hard for my bachelor's degree. Admittedly, graduate school was way more relaxed, but still a ton of work. Based on people I've known, I am suspicious as to how good of an education is provided at Seoul National University, or other "top Asian universities" given their educational system is based on Japan's. This seems to me to simply be a 4 year vacation; in the case of Taiwanese and Koreans, with a 2 year stint of military service (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_South_Korea" rel="nofollow">24, 26, or 28 months in Korea</a>, <a href="http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/taiwan/mnd.htm" rel="nofollow">2 months of boot camp and 22 or 24 months of assignment in Taiwan</a>) and a short break from living with their parents thrown in for added fun. I simply couldn't believe what I had witnessed in Japanese, Korean, and Taiwanese universities, the level of expectation is next to nil with people showing up to classes when it was convenient for them. However, I did find it pretty interesting that the students went out drinking with their professors. :P Iceberg, I'll happily accept an Iceberg comment or typo anyday. Don't worry, Marmot hasn't put these comments in book form yet. :P "South East Asia" isn't too bad of a name. But, personally, I like the phrases "Pacific rim", "Asian theatre/theater", and "North Pacific" more. BTW, when are you going to be back in Seoul? --Remort Mook,

Thanks for the reply and insight. I had incorrectly assumed things would be different at “top universities” in Korea; my impressions were largely formed by what students attending these schools conveyed to me.

It does irritate me, a lot in fact, to hear criticism about “unqualified American English teachers” being the root of all evil in SE Asia, having graduated from some of the top universities in the world — while living abroad can be fun at times, all in all it’s certainly no picnic. I know I had to really work hard for my bachelor’s degree. Admittedly, graduate school was way more relaxed, but still a ton of work.

Based on people I’ve known, I am suspicious as to how good of an education is provided at Seoul National University, or other “top Asian universities” given their educational system is based on Japan’s. This seems to me to simply be a 4 year vacation; in the case of Taiwanese and Koreans, with a 2 year stint of military service (24, 26, or 28 months in Korea, 2 months of boot camp and 22 or 24 months of assignment in Taiwan) and a short break from living with their parents thrown in for added fun. I simply couldn’t believe what I had witnessed in Japanese, Korean, and Taiwanese universities, the level of expectation is next to nil with people showing up to classes when it was convenient for them. However, I did find it pretty interesting that the students went out drinking with their professors. :P

Iceberg,

I’ll happily accept an Iceberg comment or typo anyday. Don’t worry, Marmot hasn’t put these comments in book form yet. :P “South East Asia” isn’t too bad of a name. But, personally, I like the phrases “Pacific rim”, “Asian theatre/theater”, and “North Pacific” more.

BTW, when are you going to be back in Seoul?

–Remort

]]> By: judge judy http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/02/korean-teachers-union-blames-english-camp-sexual-assaults-on-unchecked-foreign-teachers/#comment-36967 judge judy Sat, 03 Jun 2006 04:40:03 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/?p=2944#comment-36967 korea's only competitive higher education institute is KAIST, and it is solely tech-based. there are no general universities that are globally competitive or even competitive throughout asia when compared to japan, singapore, hong kong and most recently the better indian schools. korea’s only competitive higher education institute is KAIST, and it is solely tech-based. there are no general universities that are globally competitive or even competitive throughout asia when compared to japan, singapore, hong kong and most recently the better indian schools.

]]> By: Iceberg http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/06/02/korean-teachers-union-blames-english-camp-sexual-assaults-on-unchecked-foreign-teachers/#comment-36960 Iceberg Sat, 03 Jun 2006 02:22:32 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/?p=2944#comment-36960 Ugh. Try to be witty and end up looking like an idiot. I'm sure it was "a" typo. Ugh. Try to be witty and end up looking like an idiot.

I’m sure it was “a” typo.

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