Ah, so you’ve a stadium full of conversation partners, then. And they all attended the same game, did they?

You see what I’m getting at, don’t you, mahathir_fan? I believe you were being untruthful in that statement above, in order to sway opinion. That wouldn’t be such a great issue - I’d guess it’s hardly the first time someone’s lied in a post. But I’m having a hard time correlating that with the ‘And I swear I am not making this up’ part of the post.

See, if the first part is untrue, then that second part would also be untrue, and that would make you a Big Fat Boring Liar, as opposed to having an amazingly different experience than most everyone who actually lives here.

Results of Saddam Hussein’s presidential election in 2002.

Saddam Hussein: 100%

Looks like he definitely had the people’s mandate to pursue the freedom of mass torture and murder.

Iran’s result of last Presidential election.

Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani 6,159,453 21.01 10,046,701 35.93
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad 5,710,354 19.48 17,284,782 61.69

Looks like he’s got the people’s mandate to pursue the freedom of scientific experiement and exploitation. That’s the beauty of freedom and democracy.

In Palestine, Hamas controls the government. Chavez is democratically elected, and so was Dr. Mahathir.

If you cannot stand people who disagree with you to win power, then you should support facism - not democracy and freedom.

On the other question:
Look at the banners held up at the last US-Korea soccer match to see if it is semi colony.

I’m not even asking him to provide the number of South Koreans who actually used the term ’semi colony’ to describe the current condition of their country. I think we all know that that is an amazingly small number of individuals, and I’d actually like him to respond without yet again burying a blog about South Korea in a mire of Malaysian political history.

So, how many?

Oh, hang on…

I wrote:
““11. I’m quite sure Seoul’s 48 million residence feel a bit safer at night knowing we’re going to defend them, given North Korea’s proximity, you can spit on North Korea.”

Mad_hatter_fan responded:
“Most Koreans I have met admit to me that they consider their country a semi colony. And I swear I am not making this up.”

This is understandable that some Koreans might feel this way 53 years ago, after being colonized by Japan twice. Korea has some mighty powerful neighbors. But, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’re speaking of modern South Korea. Ok, show me 10 signatures from your “Korean friends” that said this TO YOU, and I won’t write you off as defeatist, ultra-leftwing, doesn’t-know-anything-about-Asia idiot.

By the way, are you SURE you’re speaking to Koreans, not Mexicans?

This doesn’t actually jibe with comments you’ve made elsewhere, M-F, but it is a coherent statement…and of course, being pro-freedom and democracy you should also welcome such a development in North Korea. Cheers.

Malaysia a US client? Actually, the US is our client. We sell more stuff to them, so we are like the store owner and they are our customers/client.

To be serious, not all SEA are as strongly principled as Malaysia during the Mahathir era. Yes, we were a British client after independence, in fact, this was the major reason why our independence struggle was bloodless. But it all changed when Mahathir came to power. Mahathir was the first prime minister to be locally educated - a true local boy compared to his previous pred-asors who were all British educated. Thanks to democracy, everything the British had planned for Malaysia became undone overnight by Mahathir. Malaysia began to have a mind of its own. And that served the country very well during the Asian Financial Crisis when it outright rejected IMF proposed solutions and it turned out to be the correct move.

Also, I am not anti US. In fact, I am a Bush supporter. When I read about what is happening in Iraq, I definitely support what Bush is doing - to bring democracy. I remember also that he has a plan to bring democracy to the rest of middle east and I am also very supportive of that idea. My critics will say that it is nothing more than an attempt to install puppet governments. But in Malaysia’s experience, we once were “puppet” too. But the beauty of democracy is the “puppet” will be eventually replaced. Then there are those who fear democracy especially Moslems. To which I say, just look at Iran today. What would Iran be today had the students not overthrown the Shah dictatorship and brought democracy to Iran?

Everybody seems to jump into a conclusion that because of what I write, I must be anti Bush, anti War, anti democracy, anti freedom. That’s completely wrong. I would not completely say I am pro war, but I am definitely pro Bush pro democracy and pro freedom.