UPDATE: Actually, I see some people have already been having a good time with the tiger map. My own feeling is that if you’re going to screw around with maps, you gotta be a bit more ambitious (notice the blog ID image, BTW).
Original Post:
With emotions running high following Japanese and Chinese “provocations” concerning territory and history, a 42-year-old netizen in Jeonju has gotten the attention of Korean cyberland with a revised picture of the “Korean Peninsula Tiger” and a map incorporating much of Manchuria into the Land of the Morning Calm. Previous drawings of this nature (like this one) were composed of just North and South Korea and faced northward toward China and Russia; as you can see, this one includes Gando and the Russian Maritimes and faces toward the Pacific, i.e., Japan.
And for good measure, “Korea” is spelled with a C, although it saddens the Marmot’s Hole to report that barring a major revision in the English alphabet, “Corea” will still follow “China.”
The map also contains the names of all the various manifestations of Korea, from Gojoseon to the Republic of Korea, with the capitals marked.
Said the artist, “With a recent series of provocations by neighboring countries over Dokdo and Goguryeo territory, I came up with the concept to show that our people’s spirit was bold like the tiger and that our territory was at one time broad like this.”
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Lead story on Yonhap:
“Roh vows to make lots of concessions to Pyongyang”
Quite a tiger, that one.
One night my wife and I came home and turned on the TV, and the last half of the movie “Independence Day” was on. The U.S. president was rallying armies around the world to fight the alien invasion, and they showed soldiers in Europe, Russia, and then Japan, and my wife said, “Why don’t they show Korean soldiers…Korea is a small country, isn’t it?” And I said “There’s nothing wrong with being a small country.”
Maybe VANK should start a campaign to change the enunciation of “B” to “K” or a hard “C”. Then “Borea” would come out ahead.
‘there’s nothing wrong with being a small country.’ big mouth
nothing small about korea economically. what’s your definition of small? and aren’t you small and petty yourself?
‘independence day…’
somewhere in the outtakes, there’s a segment in which you can see foreign news playing in the background, it’s korean news. in another, a news map or a news report indicates that seoul was under attack. don’t know why it was taken out but interesting that it was filmed at all since korea is such a small country.
rule #1 for the expat in korea:
always slam korea whenever possible.
Thanks for link to the picture of the small tiger (oh nos!!! pawi gonna get me now). I never could see it before. The only thing I have ever seen is a rabbit - not that there is anything wrong with rabbits….
Nulji, I’m not the one putting silly made-up maps on the Internet that pretend warring kingdoms from different eras constitute a unified “Korea.” And this blog is about Korea, so I sometimes make fun of this silliness. Believe me, I have a much more measured view of this country’s capabilities than you, so some Korean people using pretend nonsense like this to bolster their pride rather than taking pride in real achievements and doing the hard work needed to maintain those achievements, that I mock.
Korea is small compared to most of the countries it deals with on a daily basis (USA, Russia, China, Japan). Most of the other small nations in the region were eaten up by China or Russia long ago.
If Korea were in almost any other part of the world it would be a nice mid-ranged regional power along the lines of Egypt, South Africa or Vietnam.
rules #1 and 2 for pawikirogi: Always completely miss the point of a marmot post and always make the most small-minded, petty individual person on the planet look positively gandhiesque with my own banal nativism.
There used to be a kingdom in Europe called Lotharingia (made from the Treaty of Verdun in 843) that ran from what is now Belgium through Holland, central France and into northern Italy. So using this “nutizen logic” I could put a map on the Internet and say “Look! Belgium used to be a huge territory!” It makes about that much sense.
True, Korea’s economy is comparatively large, thanks to the U.S., which poured billions of dollars in direct aid and loans into the country, along with Japan, which also put money in aside from its WWII compensation–but of course Nulji will never admit that is the root of Korea’s success today.
My brother-in-law (KU grad for what its worth) told me the other day that Korea is about the same as Philipines in terms of GDP if you take Samsung out of the equation. Kind of interesting but I did not care enough to look it up and verify it.
pawikirogi, Korea is a small country in size and in international standing. You however are very big headed. Foreigners slam their own countries just as much as they slam Korea and if they don’t they should. Independence Day is a terrible movie aimed at people in America with the mentality of 2 year olds. Everyone else in the real world understands that NO country is perfect. I openly criticise the problems in my country and if Koreans did the same more often then foreigners wouldn’t feel the need to. Grow up matey. Grow up.
Just a chickenhawk looking for some chicken.
Hey Travolta, your movies aren’t so hot either
Independence Day is a pile of stinking cheese, but my wife and I just had that exchange recently, so it came to mind when I saw this.
Koreans are generally very ambitious individuals and have made inroads into just about everything, but when people put crap like this fake map on the Internet it just makes them look ridiculous.
Maybe all countries should draw their maps depicting the largest extent of their historical borders. That way, every country could feel all cool and important. Well… except for Ireland…. They’ve always been small.
Your eye for detail is truly amazing.
Have you considered applying for a position at VANK?
(there was a can of Korean tuna in the U.S. remake of Godzilla, too!)
Maybe I should draw a 13th century Mongolian map using a huge angry Chinggis Khaan face and claim the half of the world. And if they refuse to give our land back we shall abduct them in the middle of the night using our “flying ger” and it should be called “UFG”.
Mrs. Marmot threatens to unleash the dreaded Flying Ger
Hey, a Mongolian artist is going to be at Seoul Selection on Saturday, ask your husband about that.
That’s a cute tiger except the right arm looks awkward compared to the short left one.
People have too much time on their hands.
No matter how many contortions that tiger makes it still looks like a rabbit.
Another kind of map…
http://www.korealiberator.org/.....-in-korea/
Rabbit road-kill.
“toki” is ok; it is a very Korean character in more than a few good Korean stories. The “toki” always fools the tiger too.
Mrs. Marmot threatens to unleash the dreaded Flying Ger
Her ancestors made other people’s ancestors build walls.
I accept the map with open arms. However, Koreans like those who drew the map must be careful what they wish for.
History has shown that any country that invades China, eventually become China itself. To give an anology, China is like a big pot of black ink. The invading country is like a drop of red ink. Mix a pot of black ink with a drop of red ink and what do you get? Over time, still a pot of black ink.
Mongolia came and invaded, and if not for the Communist Party of China, and if Chiang Kai Shek was in power, today, Mongolia would just be a province of China. Manchuria too came and invaded, and today, there are no more Manchurians despite strict rules regarding intermarriage between Manchurians and hans in the 16the century.
Most Koreans are smart and they would oppose retaking Manchuria because taking Manchuria will open up the gate for millions of Han Chinese to march South and emigrate into cities like Seoul and eventually wiping out the pure Korean population from the face of history. I do not mean this in an insulting way, but it is simply a reality of the matter. The population of Chinese in Manchuria is simply too large for any form of realitic invasion that would preserve Korean identity.
He’s baaaack….
And to think I was wondering where he’d gone…
‘pawi will never admit that korea is the success that it is because the us and japan made korea such a success.’
you mean koreans weren’t primarily responsible for their success? i see a lot of money poured into places like the philipines and se asia by japan and the us, don’t see another korea there, do you? and really, do you think any reasonable person who isn’t a scumbag expat would believe your absurd contention that koreans have nothing to do with their own success? you’re an idiot. tell the world of what you know.
‘philipines and korea…’
pi gnp around 88 billion
sk gnp around one trillion
you’re friend must be a moron. did you star in ‘dumb and dumberer’?
‘the picture bohered me!’ whined the whino expat
well, why not be mature and just ignore it? what’s it really to you? who fucking cares if some korean drew a map? the fact that many of you simply go beserk is more interesting than the picture.
wanna know something? a low class scumbag expat in korea isn’t taken seriously by anyone outside of the group of low class scumbag expats.
man, can we say ‘marry-your-own-cousin’?
Who the fuck cares? Well, apparently enough people that Yonhap—the state news agency—ran a piece on it. Enough the it was one of the most looked at pieces on Naver. And if you had actually read the piece, enough people cared that when it was posted on a major Korean portal site (in this case, Daum.net), it got over 500 comments, few of which, I can only guess, were left by scummy expats who marry their own cousins. Which, BTW, I’d thought you’d approve of, because then at least then they wouldn’t be marrying Korean women.
And I’ll let you ponder the irony of telling anyone to “be mature and just ignore it.”
Considering the fact that the majority of maps printed in South Korea even to this day don’t show the DMZ or North Korea, I would hazard to say that it doesn’t look like most mapmakers in Korea are deeply rooted in something the rest of us like to call ‘reality’.
The only qualification nulji has for calling someone an idiot or moron is the old takes-one-to know-one principle.
Yes, and nulji himself is actually the “scummy expat” too. An extreme case of self-hatred and projection there.
If South Koreans can be primarily responsible for their success, can North Koreans be primarily responsible for their failure?
‘you should be happy they’re not marrying white guys.’ marmot
yeah, yeah, so typical. you can marry all of them, marmot; i don’t give a fuck. but i do wonder how a group of people who obviously despise koreans actually marries koreans.
‘the white man is evil reincarnate!’ cried the black as he went home to his white wife
‘i hate koreans!’ whined the whino expat as he headed home to his korean family
‘tsk, tsk, tsk, what a scumbag expat!’ said pawi
“dogbertt May 12th, 2006 at 11:09 am
If South Koreans can be primarily responsible for their success, can North Koreans be primarily responsible for their failure?
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Wjk writes: I would agree with that North Koreans are pirmarily responsible for their failure. But, not 100%. I would add that idol like worship of Kim Il Sung-Kim Jong Il is based on Shintoism forced by Japan on Koreans and China’s indescriminate sacrifice of their worthless lives during the Korean War is responsible for keeping the North Korean regime alive. Notice I said “indescriminate sacrifice of their WORTHLESS lives”
I mean it.
They called it In Hae Jun Sool.
Nulji, we can train Mexicans to operate dry-cleaning machines. Get out of my country.
That’s a bit much, wouldn’t you say dog?
Nulji’s back with his usual ’scummy expat’ commentary. To Nulji, any criticism of Korea whatsoever means the criticizer hates Korea and Koreans. Sorry to disappoint you Nulji-nut, but there are plenty of expats who like it here, and many of us ain’t leaving soon, either.