UPDATE 2: The Battle of Pyeongtaek appears to have ended in a rout. And there was much sorrow and shattered dreams of reunification:

UPDATE: NoCut News is reporting that the you can pretty much stick a fork in the protesters. A couple of die-hards are holding out, but their situation doesn’t look good. The National Police Agency says it will bring before the law all violent protesters from Pyeongtaek. I wouldn’t bet on that, but who knows.
ORIGINAL POST: Korea has invaded Pyeongtaek:
Thousands of police Thursday scuffled with hundreds of farmers, civic activists and anti-U.S. students in an area designated for expanded U.S. military facilities. There have been no immediate reports of casualties, according to police.
The Defense Ministry sent some 3,000 troops, including 600 military engineers, and about 700 civilian security personnel and heavy equipment to build a barbed wire fence around the area. Engineers started setting up the wire fence earlier Thursday morning.
3,000 troops… that’s roughly what Korea has stationed in Iraq. Infantry apparently accounted for around 2,000 of them. The National Police Agency deployed some 11,500 men to the area around Camp Humphreys to conduct eviction operations, which reportedly started at around 6:00 a.m. (“I love the smell of tear gas in the morning”).
So far, about 10 people have been reported injured, although this number is likely to climb as police press on with their mission.
Needless to say, OhMyNews is bringing you its outstanding blend of stellar war photography and agitprop.
An interesting side note is that at least one of the Defense Ministry’s operational plans was apparently leaked to a civic group and made public by the protesters during a press conference yesterday, although the military is denying that the leaked information had anything to do with their battle plans.
Amids the chaos, one wonders how that joint-struggle is going:
In response to the news, protesters called on all supporters to gather at the school and make a stand. Already leaflets have compared the situation to the 1980 Gwangju Democratic Uprising, which was bloodily suppressed, and now there are slogans in the vein of, “We will unite with the workers of the North to fight against the U.S.,” all of which bodes ill for the eviction.
Apparently, the Chosun Ilbo was quoting Korean Confederation of Trade Unions general secretary Kim Tae-il, who said Thursday:
“During the May 1 North-South Workers’ Rally in Pyongyang, the workers of North and South agreed to unify to carry out the anti-American struggle… The center of that struggle with the United States is Daechu-ri, Pyeongtaek.”
FROM THE FRONT LINES: As of 9:45, police have taken the playground of Daechuri Elementary School. Only the school building remains. Most of the civic group demonstrators are stuck in the school, although some 200 [university] students are apparently mixing it up with police—according to OhMyNews, they won’t last long. Some 50 people have been transported to a local hospital with various injuries.
You know, what I don’t get is this—clearly, by both accepting the USFK relocation plan and using force to clear out the demonstrators, Seoul wants the United States to stay. Yet not once have I heard anyone—at least not on the Korean side—explain just why the U.S. troop presence is so critical that not only is Seoul apparently willing to take a less-than-satisfactory deal to relocate U.S. bases, but is also willing to crack skulls to get it done. Instead, we get crap like this out of President Roh:
“So far, we have made a success through dependence on the U.S. Now it’s time to choose an independent course of diplomacy,” the president said at an American chapter meeting of the National Unification Advisory Council in Seoul.
“But living a dependent life is different from living independently and maintaining a close friendship. The two countries will remain friends forever.” [Please read Joshua's take on this]
Hey, fine if you want to choose an independent course of diplomacy. An independent course of diplomacy, however, should begin with an independent course of security, or else your independent diplomacy don’t mean jack shit in the end. But what we end up seeing is a willingness on the part of the Roh administration to continue to host U.S. troops on Korean soil, to pay a substantial portion of the relocation and base construction costs, to evict farmers from their land and to back it all up by deploying a small army to Pyeongtaek. Heck, I’ll even grant Roh that states can “independently” decide, as part of their “independent” diplomacy, to play host to the armed forces of other states. But there needs to be an explanation why. And I’m not hearing one, other than this is necessary to ensure good relations with an ally, which ain’t good enough.



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Funny how the Korean progressive movement seems like such a retrograde throwback to the 1970s or earlier.
Yes, the progressives still believe in the tired old slogans of the past. Still anti-US, anti-capitalist, pro-communist. And leftists think christians are brainwashed morons.
Well if most Koreans want the US out and KJI in why not let them have at it ?
Give it 5 or so years and the disparity between the life-styles experiences and outlooks would drive Korea to the brink of civil chaos, they’d be no match for a decent invasionary force (we could even call it a UN peace mission).
… I gues it pays to remember that this is a vocal minority who in the end have very little influence over anything (like most lefties in the end). By letting them have their say we effectively rub their noses in their own shit – and if we give them enough rope eventually the moonbats will hang themselves without our having to do anything
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peace.
eventually, the South Korean government will have to honor the agreement it had with the US. Which is a good thing. Stop Team Spirit, send the US troops back to the US, what will happen?
1 million North Korean troops will land in South Korea and conquer it. War will happen. It’s a given. Dumb ass leftist South Koreans.
The solution is coming. When the Uri party loses in the upcoming election, the leftists will lose a lot of influence in the media, the public, and in politics.
One can only blame the pro Jap Han Nara old timers for having essentially created this emergence of the Uri Party. Lee Hoi Chang was a poster child for pro Jap, elite, corrupt as hell, un trust worthy, South Korean Han Nara leadership. Who the hell in their right mind would vote for him, if they’ve been wronged in Korea by the upperclass at least once in education, business, or politics?
Pyung Taek will just provide a lot of colorful photos, a lot of injured leftists citizens, and injured and worn out South Korean army and policemen.
The outcome is fixed. Only time is the matter.
Christians aren’t brainwashed. Leftists communists are. They are living in the past. Communism failed. Miserably.
Ahh, but what did Michelle Wie think!
http://mylpga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=916&start=45
She had a good game
I really feel sorry for just about everyone involved in this mess…
I feel sorry for the farmers who have to give up their land so that the US Army can have a new base.
I feel sorry for the whores of Itaewon, who will be losing aforementioned US Army’s custom… maybe some of them will be willing to move out to Pyeongtaek.
I feel sorry for the Korean troops, most of whom are likely just kids serving their mandatory tour of duty, and have no choice but to follow orders and forcibly move the protestors out.
I don’t really feel sorry for the university students and the trade unionists, most of whom are probably just there to stir shit up, and probably only succeeding in making everything worse for everyone. Unless their parents are farmers who are sitting-in with them, they really have no business being there.
I really, really don’t feel sorry for Mr. Roh, since well… he’s the President, and life is good for him. Plus, he doesn’t have to worry about re-election, and so he can do all the crazy or unpopular things he likes without worrying too much abot his job. Sure, he might be impeached again, but that would be some damn entertaining viewing on CNN, and I can’t seem to find any channel that carries Ultimate Fighting, so I could use a fix.
I suppose Roh saying that he wants Korea to be independant diplomatically while bending over backwards to make sure the US troops stay is sort of like GWB claiming that he’s trying to protect freedom while… well.. you get the idea.
Anyhow, with luck, nobody dies, the soldiers maybe get an extra 5,000 won hazard pay with which they can buy a few bottles of the incredibly cheap soju they have at the commissary, and the farmers get relocated somewhere nicer… like maybe Tahiti.
I blame Hong Kong for not putting these losers in the clink.
Did the farmers bring their sexy Vietnamese wives to the protest?
“I feel sorry for the whores of Itaewon, who will be losing aforementioned US Army’s custom… maybe some of them will be willing to move out to Pyeongtaek.”
Wow. How true. In a nation where prostitution generates more revenue than fishery and agriculture, what will the whores do without the GIs in Seoul????
But if American academics and reporters can come to Korea to cover prostitution (related to USFK) and not make note of the Korean only side of the industry, why shouldn’t everybody…
Back in 2002-2003 shortly after getting elected, NK tried to stage a US spyplane China-like incident by sending a few fighters to burn up jet fuel they desperately try to conserve to harass the US plane and according to the US crew, probably tried to intimidate them to fly to North Korea.
Roh’s response was a warning:
He said a military threat against an enemy might be a good negociating tool, but he urged them not to go to far.
He was talking about the United States.
He went on further to explain that the North Korea response was just predictable (justifiable).
he went even further in telling the US that —- you see —– we might think pressuring NK into rash actions is fine ——- because American society has nothing at stake while (South) Korean lives are.
In a 2002 base protest video, a man in a nice suit says in English through the hole cut in the fence line, “This is our land. Not your land. You must leave our country. You are our slaves. You are our watchdogs.”
These two things amply illustrate what is the norm:
USFK is supposed to be a wing of the Korean military. Toy soldiers kept in a box just in case they are needed, but until then, they’d rather not have then seen or heard.
Roh can talk about independant diplomacy and finding a way to get away from the US while all the while keeping firmly planted in the mind that the US security protection must and will always remain —- because that is what the alliance is all about…..
Roh is a distaster in every imaginable way (unless you are North Korea’s ruling elite).
I still lay much of the blame for his mess on the dishonest, shoddy and completely unprofessional media handling of 2002 schoolgirl deaths. Had here been even a modicum of accurate or professional reporting on that accident and relevant SOFA issues etc — instead of jingoism and demagogery across the spectrum from Hankyoreh to Cho-Dong-Joong — it would have not been as easy to turn that issue into a votegetter for the nativist left.
I’ve got a can of red paint with Mr. Bamboo’s name on it. That sack of dung and Hanara let this country down in the worst sort of way and they have not the honesty or wits to acknowledge such beyond the crocidile tears they shed back when Roh was running for president.
As I have stated many times, nothing in South Korea happens without at least tacit permission from the government. Seems that Comrade Roh has learned that there is little to be gained by pandering to a mob. In this case, the government played hard ball right away and the situation will go away equally quickly. Those arrested will be given warnings, which in Korea means “If you like you school and if you ever want to get a job, stay away.”
Equally important, is the the USA seems to have learned something from the 2002 Race Riots. Koreans are tough people and not known for reasoned judgement. The removal of the 2ID troops and the base closures were exactly the correct move. Any more BS and I doubt USFK would have been around for long. BTW, have a look and Micheal Breen’s excellent piece in the Korea Lies regarding Korean nationalism.
The current changes in USFK have little to do with 2002. The base plans go back to the early 1990s or earlier.
2002 and/or 9/11 have altered things only in perhaps giving the US side the mind to actually implement plans Korea doesn’t like where before I was used to letting Korea delay them to death.
I agree but there is little doubt the Race Riots taught the Americans a useful lesson and actually got their plans in motion.
I agree. It helped, but I have a hard time guaging it because of outside factors — 9/11 and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. How much of the US military thinkers’ apparent desire to find a way out of SK is based on that and how much influenced by the orgy of hate in 2002?????
We can’t know.
If we pull out NK will not attack. They don’t have the fuel to mobilize. They would blow over in the first stiff breeze!
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