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		<title>By: V for Victory? at The Marmot&#8217;s Hole</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/04/06/and-i-was-wondering-what-the-7th-fleet-was-doing-here/#comment-33713</link>
		<dc:creator>V for Victory? at The Marmot&#8217;s Hole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why is the Korea Times running interviews with Prof. Shin Yong-ha? Yes, that Shin Yong-ha. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: R. Elgin</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/04/06/and-i-was-wondering-what-the-7th-fleet-was-doing-here/#comment-32544</link>
		<dc:creator>R. Elgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 15:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mahathir_fan, is it bad to have the U.S. military around?  I mean are they going to steal your wallet or something?  Did they try to kiss your sister?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mahathir_fan, is it bad to have the U.S. military around?  I mean are they going to steal your wallet or something?  Did they try to kiss your sister?</p>
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		<title>By: Iceberg</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/04/06/and-i-was-wondering-what-the-7th-fleet-was-doing-here/#comment-32538</link>
		<dc:creator>Iceberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 10:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank god the Malaysian military is around to maintain world order.  Maybe they can team up with the Dokdo Riders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank god the Malaysian military is around to maintain world order.  Maybe they can team up with the Dokdo Riders.</p>
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		<title>By: mahathir_fan</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/04/06/and-i-was-wondering-what-the-7th-fleet-was-doing-here/#comment-32532</link>
		<dc:creator>mahathir_fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 07:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Somehow I don’t think 300 pirate attacks in 99, 469 in 2000 and 365 in 01 are merely a scare tactic. How about this idea? "

No, we do have a pirate problem. However, the United States should also have been frank and tell us that they wanted to help us but in return they wish to expand their naval influences into the region, PERPERTUALLY.

But they concealed that latter part. The whole assistance offer was prep up like a charity gift to Malaysia. A fight of good vs. evil with no ulterior motives. It was exposed when we asked them to send radars to us which is more cost effective instead of spending billions of dollars relocating their naval armada into the region.

Sending or loaning us radar equipment will also not put any American soldiers in harms way. We are know what happened when inexperience US soldiers get in trouble. Then our Malaysian navy will have to be called on to save their asses. This happened in Somalia about 14 years ago, when American black hawk helicopters were shot down over at Mogadishu. Our Malaysian UN Peace keeping forces who happened to be there had to risk their lives to go in and rescue those soldiers. Now, if US ships get in trouble at the straits of malacca, who do you think have to go and rescue them out? Us! So let us take care of it but help us by loaning equipment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Somehow I don’t think 300 pirate attacks in 99, 469 in 2000 and 365 in 01 are merely a scare tactic. How about this idea? &#8221;</p>
<p>No, we do have a pirate problem. However, the United States should also have been frank and tell us that they wanted to help us but in return they wish to expand their naval influences into the region, PERPERTUALLY.</p>
<p>But they concealed that latter part. The whole assistance offer was prep up like a charity gift to Malaysia. A fight of good vs. evil with no ulterior motives. It was exposed when we asked them to send radars to us which is more cost effective instead of spending billions of dollars relocating their naval armada into the region.</p>
<p>Sending or loaning us radar equipment will also not put any American soldiers in harms way. We are know what happened when inexperience US soldiers get in trouble. Then our Malaysian navy will have to be called on to save their asses. This happened in Somalia about 14 years ago, when American black hawk helicopters were shot down over at Mogadishu. Our Malaysian UN Peace keeping forces who happened to be there had to risk their lives to go in and rescue those soldiers. Now, if US ships get in trouble at the straits of malacca, who do you think have to go and rescue them out? Us! So let us take care of it but help us by loaning equipment.</p>
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		<title>By: kotaji</title>
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		<dc:creator>kotaji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no... not Shin Yongha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no&#8230; not Shin Yongha.</p>
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		<title>By: snow</title>
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		<dc:creator>snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, Mahathir_fan, the US military used scare tactics to scare the Malaysians to act? Somehow I don't think 300 pirate attacks in 99, 469 in 2000 and 365 in 01 are merely a scare tactic. How about this idea? The US military told Malaysia to start doing something, anything to try to stop it? And they offered their 'services'. You seem so surprised that the US acts in its own interests. Whose interests does South Korea act in, besides South Korea's? Or Malaysia's or anyone else's for that matter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, Mahathir_fan, the US military used scare tactics to scare the Malaysians to act? Somehow I don&#8217;t think 300 pirate attacks in 99, 469 in 2000 and 365 in 01 are merely a scare tactic. How about this idea? The US military told Malaysia to start doing something, anything to try to stop it? And they offered their &#8217;services&#8217;. You seem so surprised that the US acts in its own interests. Whose interests does South Korea act in, besides South Korea&#8217;s? Or Malaysia&#8217;s or anyone else&#8217;s for that matter?</p>
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		<title>By: mahathir_fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>mahathir_fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iceberg, 
No. Malaysians have never in our history asked the US for anything. Even during the Asian Financial Crisis, we NEVER asked the IMF for any assistance.It was the IMF that came to us, and we outright rejected their aid. 

 In the Straits of Malacca, it was the US that came to us FIRST and offer to help us by sending in their troops. We merely scaled back their orginal offer of help and told them to just send equipments because it is cheaper.

The question you need to ask is, why did they come to us FIRST and offer us help yet when we decided to accept it by scaling down the offer, we were snubbed? It suggests that there were concealed intentions.

Yes, I am familiar with the term armistice, but have you heard of the term "statute of limitations". The Korean War is a relic. The situation in Korea today is no more dangerous than border skirmishes between hostile nations that share common borders eg. Pakistan-India.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iceberg,<br />
No. Malaysians have never in our history asked the US for anything. Even during the Asian Financial Crisis, we NEVER asked the IMF for any assistance.It was the IMF that came to us, and we outright rejected their aid. </p>
<p> In the Straits of Malacca, it was the US that came to us FIRST and offer to help us by sending in their troops. We merely scaled back their orginal offer of help and told them to just send equipments because it is cheaper.</p>
<p>The question you need to ask is, why did they come to us FIRST and offer us help yet when we decided to accept it by scaling down the offer, we were snubbed? It suggests that there were concealed intentions.</p>
<p>Yes, I am familiar with the term armistice, but have you heard of the term &#8220;statute of limitations&#8221;. The Korean War is a relic. The situation in Korea today is no more dangerous than border skirmishes between hostile nations that share common borders eg. Pakistan-India.</p>
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		<title>By: Iceberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iceberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So basically you told the U.S. to give, give, give, and then get the fuck away from you, right?

Of course, I've never been to Malaysia, so I'm just looking at the big picture.

(By the way, are you familiar with the term "armistice"?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So basically you told the U.S. to give, give, give, and then get the fuck away from you, right?</p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;ve never been to Malaysia, so I&#8217;m just looking at the big picture.</p>
<p>(By the way, are you familiar with the term &#8220;armistice&#8221;?)</p>
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		<title>By: mahathir_fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>mahathir_fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mizar5,

To be honest, I have only been to south Korea less than 10 days in total. So I don't know much. That's good and bad. Bad for the obvious, but good because it is a 10000 foot level view of the big picture. I have seen photos of Panmunjeom, and I saw no South Korean flags, only UN flags. That is a disturbing photograph. I see the DMZ zone still being patrolled like war could erupt at any time when the war has ended since the 1950s. It is again a disturbing picture. But let me get back to your comment.  I think US foreign policy is self serving. I posted this before and I am cutting and pasting: 

I had always questioned if there were hidden intentions. For example, last year, the US military sent strategies to scare Malaysians about the rampant pirate attacks happening on the straits of Malacca. They said it was very important for us to deal with these pirates which were a threat to our security.

We got so scared by all the statistics, we were literally pee-ing under our pants.

Then, the US military said, that they were willing to HELP US by sending in their troops into the straits of malacca to help us deal with the pirates.

WOW! How generous. I always knew the Americans of being generous. Of course there were Malaysian sceptics. 20 years of Mahathirism help created these sceptics who think that the US military are concealing their true intentions of spreading their naval power into South East Asia and using piracy as a pretext to enter the region.

But most of us believe what the American s told us. We believe in the generousity that American military is willing to spend billions and billions of dollars to send in their naval armada into our straits of malacca to help us fight these pirates.

But in our hearts, we felt uneasy accepting such a big gift. So at the last minute, we proposed to scale down the gift. Instead of the Americans sending in their naval armada, let’s just have them send us their radar equipments. That way, our own Malaysian Navy can do the job of fighting the pirates and we can use their radar equipment to locate those pirates. This would cost the Americans far less money and the objective would still be achived. Like they say, don’t give a hungry man fish, because he will be hungry the next day and he will need to come to you again. Instead teach him how to fish.

We haven’t heard back from the Americans since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mizar5,</p>
<p>To be honest, I have only been to south Korea less than 10 days in total. So I don&#8217;t know much. That&#8217;s good and bad. Bad for the obvious, but good because it is a 10000 foot level view of the big picture. I have seen photos of Panmunjeom, and I saw no South Korean flags, only UN flags. That is a disturbing photograph. I see the DMZ zone still being patrolled like war could erupt at any time when the war has ended since the 1950s. It is again a disturbing picture. But let me get back to your comment.  I think US foreign policy is self serving. I posted this before and I am cutting and pasting: </p>
<p>I had always questioned if there were hidden intentions. For example, last year, the US military sent strategies to scare Malaysians about the rampant pirate attacks happening on the straits of Malacca. They said it was very important for us to deal with these pirates which were a threat to our security.</p>
<p>We got so scared by all the statistics, we were literally pee-ing under our pants.</p>
<p>Then, the US military said, that they were willing to HELP US by sending in their troops into the straits of malacca to help us deal with the pirates.</p>
<p>WOW! How generous. I always knew the Americans of being generous. Of course there were Malaysian sceptics. 20 years of Mahathirism help created these sceptics who think that the US military are concealing their true intentions of spreading their naval power into South East Asia and using piracy as a pretext to enter the region.</p>
<p>But most of us believe what the American s told us. We believe in the generousity that American military is willing to spend billions and billions of dollars to send in their naval armada into our straits of malacca to help us fight these pirates.</p>
<p>But in our hearts, we felt uneasy accepting such a big gift. So at the last minute, we proposed to scale down the gift. Instead of the Americans sending in their naval armada, let’s just have them send us their radar equipments. That way, our own Malaysian Navy can do the job of fighting the pirates and we can use their radar equipment to locate those pirates. This would cost the Americans far less money and the objective would still be achived. Like they say, don’t give a hungry man fish, because he will be hungry the next day and he will need to come to you again. Instead teach him how to fish.</p>
<p>We haven’t heard back from the Americans since.</p>
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		<title>By: Wedge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wedge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm shocked the guy found out about the secret plan. I just hope he hasn't found out that the CIA has been running South Korea since 1945. Oops, forget I said that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m shocked the guy found out about the secret plan. I just hope he hasn&#8217;t found out that the CIA has been running South Korea since 1945. Oops, forget I said that.</p>
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