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	<title>Comments on: Noise from Osan AB harming health of nearby residents: report</title>
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		<title>By: usinkorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/03/10/noise-from-osan-ab-harming-health-of-nearby-residents-report/#comment-30516</link>
		<dc:creator>usinkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2006 03:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I talked to a high school friend of mine about this back a couple of years ago when Yongsan was in the news and the military was taking loads of soil up for treatment.  He is an environmental engineer from Georgia Tech, and his job for years before that time was handling soil contamination at gas stations and other places that had large underground tanks.  He said 80% of the stations you see in the US have such contamination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I talked to a high school friend of mine about this back a couple of years ago when Yongsan was in the news and the military was taking loads of soil up for treatment.  He is an environmental engineer from Georgia Tech, and his job for years before that time was handling soil contamination at gas stations and other places that had large underground tanks.  He said 80% of the stations you see in the US have such contamination.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizar5</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/03/10/noise-from-osan-ab-harming-health-of-nearby-residents-report/#comment-30513</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizar5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2006 02:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;show me an american military base with no toxic wastes and I’ll show you an Amish playboy centerfold model&lt;/i&gt;

Again, this is a complex issue that is intentionally distorted by special interest groups and the media. US Army has found numerous oil tanks left by the Japanese and removed many at their own expense. They have underwritten the expenses of numerous cleanups and even written provisions into SOFA that make it the most generous SOFA agreement in existance. And whatever the soil content, the army bases remain well upkept, spotlessly clean environments.

But the media is not revealing that the govt wants to hold them to standards far stricter than they apply to Korean sites. It is not showing how the govt has reneged on uts responsibility to upgrade rotting infrastructure. Again its wrangling over money and attempting to use the media to negotiate the issue publically. Should the US be responsible for cleaning up conditions that were preexisting or caused as a result of ROK negligence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>show me an american military base with no toxic wastes and I’ll show you an Amish playboy centerfold model</i></p>
<p>Again, this is a complex issue that is intentionally distorted by special interest groups and the media. US Army has found numerous oil tanks left by the Japanese and removed many at their own expense. They have underwritten the expenses of numerous cleanups and even written provisions into SOFA that make it the most generous SOFA agreement in existance. And whatever the soil content, the army bases remain well upkept, spotlessly clean environments.</p>
<p>But the media is not revealing that the govt wants to hold them to standards far stricter than they apply to Korean sites. It is not showing how the govt has reneged on uts responsibility to upgrade rotting infrastructure. Again its wrangling over money and attempting to use the media to negotiate the issue publically. Should the US be responsible for cleaning up conditions that were preexisting or caused as a result of ROK negligence?</p>
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		<title>By: usinkorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/03/10/noise-from-osan-ab-harming-health-of-nearby-residents-report/#comment-30504</link>
		<dc:creator>usinkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't leave Tripwire Lite.  Take all troops out.  Promise air support from aircraft carriers and bases outside NK's effective missile range (meaning not those in Japan), or not.

Leave no boots on the ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t leave Tripwire Lite.  Take all troops out.  Promise air support from aircraft carriers and bases outside NK&#8217;s effective missile range (meaning not those in Japan), or not.</p>
<p>Leave no boots on the ground.</p>
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		<title>By: snow</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/03/10/noise-from-osan-ab-harming-health-of-nearby-residents-report/#comment-30501</link>
		<dc:creator>snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Lux, I actually don't know if it would be a good idea to take all of them out (strategic advantage for the US, and most Koreans don't really want them to all be gone, cause of the increased taxes), but I would like to see a drawdown to 2 or 3,000 or less. Sorry, there's no point in me saying anything to Pres Bush. I'm not American. I just see the advantage that Korea gets from having US troops here and don't like the commie whining over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Lux, I actually don&#8217;t know if it would be a good idea to take all of them out (strategic advantage for the US, and most Koreans don&#8217;t really want them to all be gone, cause of the increased taxes), but I would like to see a drawdown to 2 or 3,000 or less. Sorry, there&#8217;s no point in me saying anything to Pres Bush. I&#8217;m not American. I just see the advantage that Korea gets from having US troops here and don&#8217;t like the commie whining over it.</p>
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		<title>By: luxbearer</title>
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		<dc:creator>luxbearer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>snow

Do you want to have them troops pulled out, too? Why don't you tell Mr. 조지 워커 부시 that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>snow</p>
<p>Do you want to have them troops pulled out, too? Why don&#8217;t you tell Mr. 조지 워커 부시 that?</p>
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		<title>By: snow</title>
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		<dc:creator>snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well,Lux, there are plenty of people who would love to pull the troops out of here and redirect all future bills (and responsibility) for defending the place to you and your relatives here. 

I hope you're making a good salary, cause your tax bite's going to hurt real bad-that is, unless the Roh-nothings downgrade the military to the point that they just turn the country over to kind old Mr. KJI. If it ever comes to that, who will you call for help? China?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,Lux, there are plenty of people who would love to pull the troops out of here and redirect all future bills (and responsibility) for defending the place to you and your relatives here. </p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;re making a good salary, cause your tax bite&#8217;s going to hurt real bad-that is, unless the Roh-nothings downgrade the military to the point that they just turn the country over to kind old Mr. KJI. If it ever comes to that, who will you call for help? China?</p>
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		<title>By: R. Elgin</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/03/10/noise-from-osan-ab-harming-health-of-nearby-residents-report/#comment-30493</link>
		<dc:creator>R. Elgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 05:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you should say "show me a large industrial Korean factory with less toxic waste than an American military base and I'll show you a cloned stem cell.

Though most any military base undoubtedly has toxic waste products (jet fuel, oil, etc.), it is obviously foolish and dishonest to consider American bases as being the primary source of pollution that occurs in Korea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you should say &#8220;show me a large industrial Korean factory with less toxic waste than an American military base and I&#8217;ll show you a cloned stem cell.</p>
<p>Though most any military base undoubtedly has toxic waste products (jet fuel, oil, etc.), it is obviously foolish and dishonest to consider American bases as being the primary source of pollution that occurs in Korea.</p>
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		<title>By: luxbearer</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/03/10/noise-from-osan-ab-harming-health-of-nearby-residents-report/#comment-30490</link>
		<dc:creator>luxbearer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 03:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Koehler must be seeing the light.

american military presence on the peninsula is just difficult to defend intelligently?

Those living near the bases should also check for toxic substances in the water supply.

show me an american military base with no toxic wastes and I'll show you an Amish playboy centerfold model</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Koehler must be seeing the light.</p>
<p>american military presence on the peninsula is just difficult to defend intelligently?</p>
<p>Those living near the bases should also check for toxic substances in the water supply.</p>
<p>show me an american military base with no toxic wastes and I&#8217;ll show you an Amish playboy centerfold model</p>
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		<title>By: R. Elgin</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/03/10/noise-from-osan-ab-harming-health-of-nearby-residents-report/#comment-30475</link>
		<dc:creator>R. Elgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a sly bit of news *making* in that one does not hear of statistics involving koreans that have moved into apartment buildings that were knowingly built too close to road traffic -- in violation of existing laws.  We do hear of this simply because certain parties have political agendas.  

These parties can manufacture as much data as they want but it will not change anything.  The military is there for a reason and most people want them there.  If people are not willing to relocate, then that is their burden and the Korean Government's affair.

I laugh at the Hanyroreh and so should everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a sly bit of news *making* in that one does not hear of statistics involving koreans that have moved into apartment buildings that were knowingly built too close to road traffic &#8212; in violation of existing laws.  We do hear of this simply because certain parties have political agendas.  </p>
<p>These parties can manufacture as much data as they want but it will not change anything.  The military is there for a reason and most people want them there.  If people are not willing to relocate, then that is their burden and the Korean Government&#8217;s affair.</p>
<p>I laugh at the Hanyroreh and so should everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: usinkorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/03/10/noise-from-osan-ab-harming-health-of-nearby-residents-report/#comment-30473</link>
		<dc:creator>usinkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no trouble complaining about Korea or America...err...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no trouble complaining about Korea or America&#8230;err&#8230;</p>
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