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	<title>Comments on: CIA helping Japan steal Dokdo: VANK</title>
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		<title>By: Flashpoint Dokdo at The Marmot&#8217;s Hole</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/03/07/cia-helping-japan-steal-dokdo-vank/#comment-33573</link>
		<dc:creator>Flashpoint Dokdo at The Marmot&#8217;s Hole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As if the backing of the CIA, Reuters and Canada wasn&#8217;t enough, the Japanese have enlisted in yet another ally in their nefarious scheme to steal Dokdo&#8212;the British government! According to the Japanese Coast Guard, the Japanese and British governments signed a deal April 17 to sell Japan&#8217;s English-language maritime maps through the United Kingdom&#8217;s overseas sales network. The Coast Guard said that with the help of the Brits, their English nautical maps, which are currently sold in 10 stores in nine countries, would be sold in 139 stores in 52 nations. Remember, last time the Japanese and British formed an alliance, Tokyo followed it up by blockading Port Arthur and relocating the Russian Baltic Fleet to the bottom of the Korea Strait. The Japanese will start with 14 maps of Tokyo Bay from July. No decision has been made on whether Japan will start selling nautical maps of the Dokdo area through the British sales network, but a Japan Coast Guard official told the Kyunghyang Shinmun that a decision would be reached through negotiations with the British. The United Kingdom has used maps produced by the Japan Coast Guard to produce its own maps of Japan&#8217;s major ports and bays and Pacific waters, including Dokdo and the East Sea. With the agreement, Britain plans to affix the seals of both the Japanese and British governments on maps produced by Japan. The problem, of course, is that Japanese maps mark the Dokdo islets as &#8220;Takeshima,&#8221; and the East Sea as the &#8220;Sea of Japan.&#8221; And British maritime maps are globally quite influential. According to the National Oceanographic Research Institute, Korea produces its own maritime maps, but sells them only domestically. This is because Japan was selected by the International Hydrographic Organization as the country that draws up the nautical maps for Region K, which includes Korea. This means Japanese-produced maps marked &#8220;Takeshima&#8221; are getting international recognition. The National Oceanographic Research Institute has been working its butt off ahead of the IHO general meeting to convene in Germany this June on getting Dokdo marked, well, Dokdo. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As if the backing of the CIA, Reuters and Canada wasn&#8217;t enough, the Japanese have enlisted in yet another ally in their nefarious scheme to steal Dokdo&#8212;the British government! According to the Japanese Coast Guard, the Japanese and British governments signed a deal April 17 to sell Japan&#8217;s English-language maritime maps through the United Kingdom&#8217;s overseas sales network. The Coast Guard said that with the help of the Brits, their English nautical maps, which are currently sold in 10 stores in nine countries, would be sold in 139 stores in 52 nations. Remember, last time the Japanese and British formed an alliance, Tokyo followed it up by blockading Port Arthur and relocating the Russian Baltic Fleet to the bottom of the Korea Strait. The Japanese will start with 14 maps of Tokyo Bay from July. No decision has been made on whether Japan will start selling nautical maps of the Dokdo area through the British sales network, but a Japan Coast Guard official told the Kyunghyang Shinmun that a decision would be reached through negotiations with the British. The United Kingdom has used maps produced by the Japan Coast Guard to produce its own maps of Japan&#8217;s major ports and bays and Pacific waters, including Dokdo and the East Sea. With the agreement, Britain plans to affix the seals of both the Japanese and British governments on maps produced by Japan. The problem, of course, is that Japanese maps mark the Dokdo islets as &#8220;Takeshima,&#8221; and the East Sea as the &#8220;Sea of Japan.&#8221; And British maritime maps are globally quite influential. According to the National Oceanographic Research Institute, Korea produces its own maritime maps, but sells them only domestically. This is because Japan was selected by the International Hydrographic Organization as the country that draws up the nautical maps for Region K, which includes Korea. This means Japanese-produced maps marked &#8220;Takeshima&#8221; are getting international recognition. The National Oceanographic Research Institute has been working its butt off ahead of the IHO general meeting to convene in Germany this June on getting Dokdo marked, well, Dokdo. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tora, tora, tora! at The Marmot&#8217;s Hole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tora, tora, tora! at The Marmot&#8217;s Hole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Japanese warmongers will likely be escorted by officials from Reuters, the CIA and the U.S. State Department. Oh yeah, and the Canadians. In an editorial, the Chosun Ilbo, likening the Japanese move to the Unyo-maru Incidenct of 1875 (a rather interesting historical tidbit in itself, mirroring as it did Japan&#8217;s own experience with the Black Ships), laid the blame for this latest flare-up squarely at the feet of&#8211;you guessed it&#8211;the Roh administration: President Roh Moo-hyun, around this time last year, vowed to put an end to Japan&#8217;s hegemonic ambitions. Since then, the only measure the government has taken was to cancel all further bilateral summits. That Tokyo continues with its stealth campaign to take the islets suggests the absence of a summit is causing no great inconvenience or regret there. The U.S. has usually offered opportunities to resolve such disputes behind the scenes whenever South Korea and Japan became mired in them. Not this time. Because the bilateral alliance between Korea and the U.S. is shaky, the cooperative framework among South Korea, the U.S. and Japan has collapsed. The public must wonder what action Seoul has in mind as Japan carries on its campaign to seize Dokdo. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Japanese warmongers will likely be escorted by officials from Reuters, the CIA and the U.S. State Department. Oh yeah, and the Canadians. In an editorial, the Chosun Ilbo, likening the Japanese move to the Unyo-maru Incidenct of 1875 (a rather interesting historical tidbit in itself, mirroring as it did Japan&#8217;s own experience with the Black Ships), laid the blame for this latest flare-up squarely at the feet of&#8211;you guessed it&#8211;the Roh administration: President Roh Moo-hyun, around this time last year, vowed to put an end to Japan&#8217;s hegemonic ambitions. Since then, the only measure the government has taken was to cancel all further bilateral summits. That Tokyo continues with its stealth campaign to take the islets suggests the absence of a summit is causing no great inconvenience or regret there. The U.S. has usually offered opportunities to resolve such disputes behind the scenes whenever South Korea and Japan became mired in them. Not this time. Because the bilateral alliance between Korea and the U.S. is shaky, the cooperative framework among South Korea, the U.S. and Japan has collapsed. The public must wonder what action Seoul has in mind as Japan carries on its campaign to seize Dokdo. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mizar5</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mizar5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you! This one is really precious, just hilarious!

This is the same CIA that, in its former incarnation as the OSS was training Korean exiles in China to invade Korea during the Japanese occupation?

The real story behind the Liancourt Rocks appears to be a KCIA-related - on one hand, a ploy to expand Korea's maritime rights and, more important, an engineered appeal to Korean jingoistic nationalism as a political tool for distraction and mind control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you! This one is really precious, just hilarious!</p>
<p>This is the same CIA that, in its former incarnation as the OSS was training Korean exiles in China to invade Korea during the Japanese occupation?</p>
<p>The real story behind the Liancourt Rocks appears to be a KCIA-related - on one hand, a ploy to expand Korea&#8217;s maritime rights and, more important, an engineered appeal to Korean jingoistic nationalism as a political tool for distraction and mind control.</p>
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		<title>By: thorin</title>
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		<dc:creator>thorin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only I had any fingers left to cut off!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only I had any fingers left to cut off!</p>
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		<title>By: Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 13:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I am originally from a land-locked Midwestern state in North America, I have decided to claim Dokdo/Takeshima for my own. The new name is “Lincoln Island,” in honor of the island in the Jules Verne novel, “Mysterious Island” (which is blown to smithereens by a volcano).  Please adjust your maps and histories accordingly (yes, that’s you, CIA peoples). Thanks. 

If either of the other sides refuses to acknowledge my claim, I will be forced to wage war on them. This may include, but will not be limited to, printing maps of their countries and turning them into a “Sea of Fire” in my BBQ, and tirelessly continuing poke fun. 

Important Note: if you are currently living on, have troops stationed on, or run tours to/on Lincoln Island, please contact me for the rent, tax, and other fees schedule. Thanks in advance, and have I nice day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I am originally from a land-locked Midwestern state in North America, I have decided to claim Dokdo/Takeshima for my own. The new name is “Lincoln Island,” in honor of the island in the Jules Verne novel, “Mysterious Island” (which is blown to smithereens by a volcano).  Please adjust your maps and histories accordingly (yes, that’s you, CIA peoples). Thanks. </p>
<p>If either of the other sides refuses to acknowledge my claim, I will be forced to wage war on them. This may include, but will not be limited to, printing maps of their countries and turning them into a “Sea of Fire” in my BBQ, and tirelessly continuing poke fun. </p>
<p>Important Note: if you are currently living on, have troops stationed on, or run tours to/on Lincoln Island, please contact me for the rent, tax, and other fees schedule. Thanks in advance, and have I nice day.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 11:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CIA???  So is all that guano to be considered WMD, or just another South Korean fertilizer shipment destined for North Korea?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CIA???  So is all that guano to be considered WMD, or just another South Korean fertilizer shipment destined for North Korea?</p>
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		<title>By: Max Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 11:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd like Kim Jung-Il to chime in on the issue, not by claiming the rocks, but rather by unloading enough of his arsenal to completely wipe them from the map.  Then he could brag that he attacked both Japan and South Korea.  Just gotta get those SK troops off the rocks first so there are no casualties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like Kim Jung-Il to chime in on the issue, not by claiming the rocks, but rather by unloading enough of his arsenal to completely wipe them from the map.  Then he could brag that he attacked both Japan and South Korea.  Just gotta get those SK troops off the rocks first so there are no casualties.</p>
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		<title>By: judge judy</title>
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		<dc:creator>judge judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 09:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And a rock feels no pain;
And an island never cries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And a rock feels no pain;<br />
And an island never cries.</p>
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		<title>By: Wedge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wedge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 09:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still say these should be given to the Frogs. Let them handle the issue. After all, if they hadn't discovered the damned rocks there wouldn't be all this trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still say these should be given to the Frogs. Let them handle the issue. After all, if they hadn&#8217;t discovered the damned rocks there wouldn&#8217;t be all this trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: Darin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 07:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>usinkorea, that solution would not be acceptable to the Korean side because she views this as a closed issue that is not open for compromise.  I can understand them to an extent, even though historically Japan has claimed ownership of the rocks for round about the same time as Korea has, it has only recently started to make claims in modern times which is mighty suspicious, just like that Chinese side on the Senkaku islands issue only making claims after gas fields were found.  But at the same time, an issue being closed and not open for compromise has never stopped Korea from pushing something, take a look at the normalization of relations act 1964 for S. Korea and Japan where it says all issues of Japanese reparations for WW2 are closed.

My personal "solution" is that the rocks are not islands, but rocks and can not be claimed.  Just like a beach, it's everyone's.  The rocks are not islands and, without lots of government spending to build special buildings, are uninhabitable which is why this type of dispute is possible.  Had people been living there for a long time under natural circumstances, they would be islands and claimable (as well as conquerable).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>usinkorea, that solution would not be acceptable to the Korean side because she views this as a closed issue that is not open for compromise.  I can understand them to an extent, even though historically Japan has claimed ownership of the rocks for round about the same time as Korea has, it has only recently started to make claims in modern times which is mighty suspicious, just like that Chinese side on the Senkaku islands issue only making claims after gas fields were found.  But at the same time, an issue being closed and not open for compromise has never stopped Korea from pushing something, take a look at the normalization of relations act 1964 for S. Korea and Japan where it says all issues of Japanese reparations for WW2 are closed.</p>
<p>My personal &#8220;solution&#8221; is that the rocks are not islands, but rocks and can not be claimed.  Just like a beach, it&#8217;s everyone&#8217;s.  The rocks are not islands and, without lots of government spending to build special buildings, are uninhabitable which is why this type of dispute is possible.  Had people been living there for a long time under natural circumstances, they would be islands and claimable (as well as conquerable).</p>
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