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	<title>Comments on: Korean Wave slams American shores: Dong-A</title>
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		<title>By: Mizar5</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/02/25/korean-wave-slams-american-shores-dong-a/#comment-30160</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizar5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 12:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also a correction for Slim: "nationalism" is not the issue in Korea; it's "race-ism" or "tribalism" (민족주의). Korea has not been a nation state very long and may continue to exist as a race long after it is reabsorbed by China in 100 years or so. Every once in a while we just jump on a new phrase - "nation" and "대한민국" and such - but it's just code for "우리한국" which means our little extended tribal family. 

The one thing you have to realize, however, is that, no matter how dysfunctional and fractional our little family is, this is not going to keep us from intermarrying and remaining self-absorbed. And this is the reason that we like to make up stories about how popular we are with the rest of the world. There need not be a shred of truth in such stories for us to believe them. It's just part of the self-deception that we indulge ourselves in to continue to live in our little fantasy world. Just leave us alone and stop holding us up to analysis. We're happy this way. Or at least that's what we need to believe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also a correction for Slim: &#8220;nationalism&#8221; is not the issue in Korea; it&#8217;s &#8220;race-ism&#8221; or &#8220;tribalism&#8221; (민족주의). Korea has not been a nation state very long and may continue to exist as a race long after it is reabsorbed by China in 100 years or so. Every once in a while we just jump on a new phrase - &#8220;nation&#8221; and &#8220;대한민국&#8221; and such - but it&#8217;s just code for &#8220;우리한국&#8221; which means our little extended tribal family. </p>
<p>The one thing you have to realize, however, is that, no matter how dysfunctional and fractional our little family is, this is not going to keep us from intermarrying and remaining self-absorbed. And this is the reason that we like to make up stories about how popular we are with the rest of the world. There need not be a shred of truth in such stories for us to believe them. It&#8217;s just part of the self-deception that we indulge ourselves in to continue to live in our little fantasy world. Just leave us alone and stop holding us up to analysis. We&#8217;re happy this way. Or at least that&#8217;s what we need to believe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mizar5</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/02/25/korean-wave-slams-american-shores-dong-a/#comment-30159</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizar5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 12:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I’m really starting to understand the race-card fatigue that you White folks have to go through back home. Really, no joke.&lt;/i&gt;

Better decades late than never, Bluejives. Now that US society has moved so far beyond racism that the race card has become nearly obsolete, hardly anyone but insecure Korean Americans take it seriously anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’m really starting to understand the race-card fatigue that you White folks have to go through back home. Really, no joke.</i></p>
<p>Better decades late than never, Bluejives. Now that US society has moved so far beyond racism that the race card has become nearly obsolete, hardly anyone but insecure Korean Americans take it seriously anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: slim</title>
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		<dc:creator>slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 01:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I put a question mark there because I'm not sure what was at work. I guess it could be fear of boycotts or other campaigns by the movie industry itself..

It would be intellectually lazy to put everything that is said, done or decided in Korea down to nationalism. But in a country where the patriotism meter is usually turned up to 11, it would be wrong to dismiss it outright as some here are wont to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I put a question mark there because I&#8217;m not sure what was at work. I guess it could be fear of boycotts or other campaigns by the movie industry itself..</p>
<p>It would be intellectually lazy to put everything that is said, done or decided in Korea down to nationalism. But in a country where the patriotism meter is usually turned up to 11, it would be wrong to dismiss it outright as some here are wont to do.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slim to the rescue. Koreans overwhelmingly prefer Korean movies, to the point of "volunteering" to maintain the screen quota. Don't talk to me about Americans being closed-minded about foreign films.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slim to the rescue. Koreans overwhelmingly prefer Korean movies, to the point of &#8220;volunteering&#8221; to maintain the screen quota. Don&#8217;t talk to me about Americans being closed-minded about foreign films.</p>
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		<title>By: slim</title>
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		<dc:creator>slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patriotism at work?

Cinemas to Maintain Screen Quota Voluntarily
Korea’s leading movie theaters said Wednesday they will voluntarily continue showing Korean movies for 146 days a year despite a government decision to halve the official screen quota.

The announcement came after representatives of major theater chains including CJ CGV chief Park Dong-ho, Megabox CEO Kim Woo-taek and Lotte Cinema head Kim Gwang-seop met Culture Minister Chung Dong-chea and Uri Party chairman Chung Dong-young. It was organized by the government to listen to concerns of theaters in response to the decision to halve the quota.

“Theaters too can survive only when there are many good local movies being produced,” the CJ CGV president said. “So we’ve decided to maintain the screen quota to help the film industry grow.” The government slashed the quota last month to accommodate U.S. demands ahead of free-trade talks. (Chosun)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patriotism at work?</p>
<p>Cinemas to Maintain Screen Quota Voluntarily<br />
Korea’s leading movie theaters said Wednesday they will voluntarily continue showing Korean movies for 146 days a year despite a government decision to halve the official screen quota.</p>
<p>The announcement came after representatives of major theater chains including CJ CGV chief Park Dong-ho, Megabox CEO Kim Woo-taek and Lotte Cinema head Kim Gwang-seop met Culture Minister Chung Dong-chea and Uri Party chairman Chung Dong-young. It was organized by the government to listen to concerns of theaters in response to the decision to halve the quota.</p>
<p>“Theaters too can survive only when there are many good local movies being produced,” the CJ CGV president said. “So we’ve decided to maintain the screen quota to help the film industry grow.” The government slashed the quota last month to accommodate U.S. demands ahead of free-trade talks. (Chosun)</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 07:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well...contemporary dramas in Korea are pretty tame fare compared with "Desperate Housewives," and the historical ones are too...historical. Ask Kushibo, Americans are blind to the wiles of hanryu  :)

BOA likewise is fairly bland and imitative of Western pop singers, sorry. Someone like Park Jin-young had a better chance of crossing over because he understands the market, but it looks like he's concentrating on producing now.

In the end, it's a big world, as there's really no need to seek validation in the U.S. As Sperwer said at the very beginning of the comments, it's proof of what, exactly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;contemporary dramas in Korea are pretty tame fare compared with &#8220;Desperate Housewives,&#8221; and the historical ones are too&#8230;historical. Ask Kushibo, Americans are blind to the wiles of hanryu  <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>BOA likewise is fairly bland and imitative of Western pop singers, sorry. Someone like Park Jin-young had a better chance of crossing over because he understands the market, but it looks like he&#8217;s concentrating on producing now.</p>
<p>In the end, it&#8217;s a big world, as there&#8217;s really no need to seek validation in the U.S. As Sperwer said at the very beginning of the comments, it&#8217;s proof of what, exactly?</p>
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		<title>By: Origami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Origami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 06:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Korean movies has it's limits; but, if I had to guess, I think K-Drama's are going to become very popular in America, along with BoA!

K-Drama's are a perfect match for America's Soccer Mom crowd. 

http://boa-nation.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Korean movies has it&#8217;s limits; but, if I had to guess, I think K-Drama&#8217;s are going to become very popular in America, along with BoA!</p>
<p>K-Drama&#8217;s are a perfect match for America&#8217;s Soccer Mom crowd. </p>
<p><a href="http://boa-nation.com/" rel="nofollow">http://boa-nation.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 00:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, OK, America is full of hicks who can't stand subtitled movies by ferriners :)

That doesn't jibe with me or anyone I know, but whatever. "Origami" said Americans were closed-minded about film fare, and my point was, no more so than Koreans. I don't see a great embrace of foreign films in Korea vis-a-vis America.  

On nationalism in the preference for Korean movies (what this has to do with "race-card fatigue" I have no idea), I was thinking of all the recent movies--"Typhoon," "Welcome to Dongmakgol," "Shilmido," "Taeguki"--with overtly nationalist themes, which has obviously translated into box office success. So I still think nationalism is a bigger factor here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, OK, America is full of hicks who can&#8217;t stand subtitled movies by ferriners <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t jibe with me or anyone I know, but whatever. &#8220;Origami&#8221; said Americans were closed-minded about film fare, and my point was, no more so than Koreans. I don&#8217;t see a great embrace of foreign films in Korea vis-a-vis America.  </p>
<p>On nationalism in the preference for Korean movies (what this has to do with &#8220;race-card fatigue&#8221; I have no idea), I was thinking of all the recent movies&#8211;&#8221;Typhoon,&#8221; &#8220;Welcome to Dongmakgol,&#8221; &#8220;Shilmido,&#8221; &#8220;Taeguki&#8221;&#8211;with overtly nationalist themes, which has obviously translated into box office success. So I still think nationalism is a bigger factor here.</p>
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		<title>By: bluejives</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluejives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 20:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Nationalism as a motivating consumer factor gets a bit overblown sometimes.&lt;/i&gt;

I'm really starting to understand the race-card fatigue that you White folks have to go through back home. Really, no joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Nationalism as a motivating consumer factor gets a bit overblown sometimes.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m really starting to understand the race-card fatigue that you White folks have to go through back home. Really, no joke.</p>
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		<title>By: kushibo</title>
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		<dc:creator>kushibo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 06:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Speaking of “Amelie,” you might be interested in this somewhat old CS Monitor article–there’s maybe a lesson here for Korean filmmakers:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/1109/p13s1-almo.html &lt;/b&gt;

I just reread this and maybe we are on the same page: it seems the article in 2001 was overly optimistic about how well French films &lt;i&gt;would do&lt;/i&gt; in the coming years.

By the way, a number of those obscure French films have shown up on cable TV here in Korea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Speaking of “Amelie,” you might be interested in this somewhat old CS Monitor article–there’s maybe a lesson here for Korean filmmakers:<br />
<a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/1109/p13s1-almo.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/1109/p13s1-almo.html</a> </b></p>
<p>I just reread this and maybe we are on the same page: it seems the article in 2001 was overly optimistic about how well French films <i>would do</i> in the coming years.</p>
<p>By the way, a number of those obscure French films have shown up on cable TV here in Korea.</p>
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