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At the risk of starting another potential flame war in my comments section, I direct you to this video (and ensuing conversation) over at Ruminations in Korea.
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Funny overload ~ I mean really… the Indian guy did make some sense.
“Korean men think they are number one. White women think they are number one. Together, no good. But white men think they are number two. Korean women think they are number two. Together, that’s okay.”
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LOL, Some brilliant observations, so true.
We were all howling with laughter. The video is very witty. I only wonder if Korean guys would find it amusing as well.
Korean guys can have all the white women they want, as far as I’m concerned. Origami, your comment is too funny as well.
Women go for money. As Asians get rich, there will be more White female-Asian male couples.
Women dig money and power.
Eve bit into the forbidden fruit because she wanted “power like God’s”. This has been the history of human race. Who can satisfy a woman’s longing to be the best (by using men)? Modern society unleashed this evil to the max.
I long for the old time in Korea, where women were happy to be willing servants to men. Korean society, under Confucian teaching, was a very stable and an advanced society.
Western culture, while fixing some problems, brought in a fresh bag of problems and miseries. Rampant teen sex, divorces, homeless people… I understand why Korean Commies want to kick out all foreigners and close the country. But, their way will only bring poverty.
No one can stop the flow of modern society. The only exception is the hermits like Amish people or Solvang scandinavian people. They just stop contacts with outside and froze time.
Maybe Korea will try that once more. But, hermits are poor people.
“Korean society, under Confucian teaching, was a very stable and an advanced society.”
Huh? Korea’s history is full of political and military conflicts. Despite Confucian value of learning and the invention of Hangeul, most of the population remained illiterate until the 20th Century brought education to the masses. In Confucian Korea, nobles fathered illegitimate children with concubines and slaves. Peasants and laborers were malnourished. Ah, the good ol’ days.
The Indian guy is actually quite wrong. Census figures reveal that among interracial marriages from South Asia, the gender ratios are nearly balanced. There are just as many Indian male/White female couples as there are White male/Indian female ones.
But I digress, I do my part batting for the home team by fornicating with as many white women.
Count so far…1
and it wasn’t even that good.
“Western culture, while fixing some problems, brought in a fresh bag of problems and miseries.”
Baduk, you forgot to mention the worst, most heinous, reprehensible, and repugnant element from that bag of problems and miseries brought to Korean women: Freedom.
Oh the horror. The horror.
And despite your assertion about money being the primary draw, I would guess that if you polled a large number of Korean women who ran off with whitey, they’d tell you that their ability to live life by their own rules (as opposed to living under the thumb of a Confucianista husband such as yourself, along with a mother-in-law, sister-in-laws and countless other relatives all competing to see who can crush her under their respective thumbs) is the main draw to whitey as opposed to economics.
I personally know several Korean women who gladly turned down arranged marriages to Korean doctors and lawyers in favor of Canadian or American English teachers, who obviously don’t compare on economic scale alone. Of course they battled their parents, who were adamant in trying to convince them that being the servant of a doctor is better “for the family pride” than being the partner of an English teacher or even a GI. But in the end they thought of themselves and their own well-being and decided that the ability of their parents to brag about money and status was in fact not very relevant to their own future.
Of course there are still plenty of Korean women willing to take the arranged marriages and implied subservience to a Korean man of higher economic and social status. My wife in particular takes great schaudenfreudian joy in getting phone calls from two friends of hers who chose that route and the inherent misery that generally goes along with it. They inevitably complain for hours on end about their in-laws treating them like shit, and their husbands weekly room salon visits “for business reasons,” as well as the general attitude their husbands have toward them, best summed up as “you’re lucky to be the wife of a powerful man, so shut the fuck up.” My wife snickers, tells them it’s their own damn fault, and then explains in great detail to them how wonderfully she’s treated by her whitey in-laws, who lo and behold, treat her like a person and not like a childbearing maid.
Unfortunately for you and the rest of the Korean male population baduk, these facts are slowly leaking out of the hermit kingdom. It should surprise no one that the more Korean women travel, study abroad, and meet whitey in Korea, the more attracted they are to “the land of rampant teen sex, divorce, and homeless people” as you so eloquently put it.
Let me also say, that your statements of longing for the old days of women servants sounds very similar to David Duke and his ilk, proclaiming their desire to see blacks in chains and back in the cotton fields “where they belong.” In a funny coincidence, they too often cite how much more “stable” American society was back in the 1800’s as support for their position.
Just thought you’d like to know about the company you keep.
I must note it is amusingly ironic to hear whitey get on another one of his high horses and preach about sexual equality when the real reason he is with an Asian woman is because he cant deal with a Western “womyn” ruined by feminist ideology with huge chips on their shoulders and an Asian woman is more “traditional” and “generally know how to act like a woman”. Isnt that right, Blueballs?
Please spare us the tired rhetoric because it only makes you look like a big fucking hypocrite.
As far as this sexual equality thing is concerned, I for one dont spend too much time thinking or fussing about it too much because most guys simply dont do that , but I give credit to Western women for actually having fought and struggled for it for more than a 100 years. Asian women’s version of “feminism” is running away from “oppressive Asian society” and embracing “enlightened” whitey. That’s right: not doing anything to actually fix the problem and avoiding it because the grass is supposedly greener on the other side.
As far as the battle of the sex go in Korea, let me just point out a lot of this so-called “male chauvinistic sexism” is inflicted on women by other women. The most compelling example is the traditional relationship between a mother-in-law and other female in laws upon a daugther in law. Instead of waking up and saying “hey, this is fucked up”, they perpetuate the same old crap just because they got the same kind of initiation when they were young. It’s all bullshit. I realize that whitey expat is all too happy to capitalize upon systemic divisions and fractures within the Asian community like a parasitic opportunist. If I were you, I’d probably do the same thing. Hey, I’ll even admit that you guys are probably more morally superior and better than all those womanizing Asian men patronizing the room salons. But seriously, stop talking crap because I’ve heard it all before and you are just giving Koreans more reasons to hate your guts.
God forbid more Koreans should hate our guts. The only way to have a Korean or kyopo not hate our guts would seem to be to grovel abjectly before one, while apologizing for “white privilege”, promising not so much as to look in the direction of a Korean woman, and acknowledging the superiority of Koreans for their pure blood and 5000-year history.
Who are you and nulji to tell me or anyone else what to say?
That’s just ridiculous. There have long been women’s groups in Korea that have worked among other things, for the abolition of the sexist family register system and other discriminatory laws and customs. There are womens’ movements opposing sexual trafficking and domestic violence. None of this has anything to do with running away from “oppressive Asian society” and embracing “enlightened whitey.”
Thank God for people like bluejives and nulji though. The more open and aware North Americans, Australians, etc. become of the naked contempt and disdain with which many kyopos view the dominant culture of the societies in which they live, the less we will continue believe the model minority myth.
Generally white women are not attracted to men who look and act like boys, but white men are very attracted to women who look and act like girls.
Oh boy, this thread should be entertaining…
And it should be pointed out, Dogbertt, that many of the comments found on this blog could be taken in some circles as indicative of the expat community’s “naked contempt and disdain” for the dominant culture in which they live.
hey hardandtiny.
BTW, your screenname, what does that refer to, eh? Arent you the resident creep whose always looking to prey on some unsuspecting, divorsed ajummas?
Fair point Robert. Comments like:
“Look, I know it hurts your all-important national pride, but I think it should be common Liberation Day courtesy to mention, however briefly, which country did the liberating. It’s not too much to ask, is it? You don’t even have to mention the United States by name - you can just use the term “Allies” if you find an overt show of gratitude to the Americans too galling.”
“With the economy falling apart and the nation embroiled in a nuclear crisis with North Korea, some anal Koreans (including the government) are worried about foreign websites littered with wrong info on Korea.”
“More stupid Korea/Corea shit. Fuck you. English is MY language, and you have no right to even request - let alone demand - that we change our spellings to assuage your national inferiority complex.”
do indeed show a fair amount of contempt and disdain.
the naked contempt and disdain with which many kyopos view the dominant culture of the societies in which they live
Just the assholes.
Sorry, I meant to write axxholes. Can I have a mulligan?
I think you both forgot to include some important information that makes the two situations worlds apart. I’ve been kind enough to include it in parentheses.
Dogbert said: The more open and aware North Americans, Australians, etc. become of the naked contempt and disdain with which many kyopos view the dominant culture of the societies in which they live(permanently, and that choice of permanent residence would seem to imply an acceptance rather than a rejection of said culture),
Robert said: Many of the comments found on this blog could be taken in some circles as indicative of the expat community?? ??aked contempt and disdain??for the dominant culture in which they live (for a year or two on average, after which that same naked contempt and disdain generally drives them back home because they find it unbearable to reside permanently and contemplate raising their own children in such a culture).
Glad I could help.
[the real reason he is with an Asian woman is because he cant deal with a Western ??omyn??ruined by feminist ideology with huge chips on their shoulders and an Asian woman is more ??raditional??and ??enerally know how to act like a woman?? Isnt that right, Blueballs?]
Absolutely right BJ. There are in fact a small percentage of whitey that are attracted to Asian women for that reason you described. How small is that percentage? Let’s just say it’s about as small as the percentage of Korean men that treat their wives as fully equal partners.
Yes, that small.
Ok, let’s say that statement is true and that it has absolutely nothing to do with your own warped, self-serving perception. What the hell do you care about it? By your account, you seem to be enjoying a highly satisfactory marriage? So what do the business of other people concern you?
I guess what I am trying to ask is why is it that there seems to be way too many you of, that is expats who are married or dating Korean women who seem to have this constant need to bash Korean men to make themselves look better? Are you threatened by something? DO you have such a deep-seated inferiority that you need to malign others?
That, or the same inability to land a decent job in the U.S., Australia, etc. that drove them to Korea in the first place keeps them here because they find the prospect of flipping burgers and being deprived of a steady supply of cheap booze and women fascinated with white guys so unbearable that they remain in the country, all the while bitching up a storm and making no effort to adjust.
Uh, as a white guy married to an Asian woman, I dislike the WM-AF stereotype, too, but let’s be honest here–there are a lot of white dudes who dig Asian chicks for exactly the reason Bluejives describes. That, and because they’re “easy.” Does that account for a majority of such relatiobships? No. But it ain’t a small percentage of whitey, either.? Be curious to see if there’s any reliable statistics on that sort of thing.
And very cute, Dogbertt. I stick by those statements, too. Include the links next time.
Robert, I really dont care about the reasons why you guys are so attracted to asian girls. Be it fetish or whatever, that’s not really my problem. My problem is why do guys like Blueballs here have to bash Korean guys in order to justify their relationships? Why do they have to politicize and racialize interracial relationship any more than it already is? Because none of that craps helps anybody. It is the height of chutzpah when I hear complaints of mistreatment of mixed race kids and the like and then I find the same people harboring certain attitudes which I find distasteful.
Blueballs, you’re so concerned about Korean men being chavinist pigs or what not, right? So what are you doing about it? Why dont you share your thoughts with your father-in-law, brother-in-law, and any other Korean male acquaintances or friends (if you have any, that is) that you may have. I’m sure you’ll have a much bigger impact that way, because you’re so damn concerned about it.
But you wont, right? You’re only saying this because it makes you look “better” to your Korean spouse in comparision to all those god-awful Korean men. Because you are so lacking in your own instrinsic merits, you need to bash strangers, people you dont even know, in order to make yourself look better. This makes you a certified asshole.
Did he actually save that up just for this occasion?
Perfectly valid points. None of our business why two people decide to get together, be it fetishes, money, social position or love. And no reason to bash any party involved, be it white guys, white women, Asian guys or Asian women. Probably doesn’t help matters much.
jyce: Who saved what up?
What the hell do I care? Because I can. And because I’ve met plenty of very decent Asian women in several different countries whose lives are miserable due to the behavior of the men in their lives and neandrethal norms of society at large. And because at the beginning of this thread we had baduk longing for the good old days when women were “happy to be willing servants to men.”
Did you miss that quote? Or are you painfully aware of how common that attitude is among Korean men so you choose to ignore it and play diversion games instead?
This is a forum for expressing opinions BJ, and I’m expressing mine. Unfortunately for people like you, there are people of all races, sexes, and nationalities that do in fact care about the treatment of other people, regardless of where they live. I know you’d enjoy it immensely if the rest of the world (and especially whitey) weren’t aware of the realities of sexism in Korea, but the hermit’s been exposed long ago. Deal with it.
This reminds me of conservatives who claim that any and all criticisms of President Bush are “Bush-bashers.” Paint your critics as irrational and unreasonable bashers and at the same time ignore the criticisms themselves.
It may behoove you to consider the reasons for the criticisms instead of pretending to be a victim of a “bashing,” as if YOU’RE the victim in this.
Pointing out the realities of sexism in Korea has nothing to do with feeling threatened or inferiority. Your reaction however, does. The fact that you offer little or no defense, but rather insist on attacking your critics and their motives says more about you than you probably realize. Guilty consciences offer no answers, only attacks on the messenger of uncomfortable truths.
Done and done. In fact, I have had several conversations with my wife’s father and brother about the topic. And not only did they hear my opinion, but they saw me live that opinion when they visited our home in the US and saw me cooking and washing dishes while my wife sat and watched television and drank soju with them. Did they give me shit? Yes. Did I care? No.
My behavior and treatment of my wife makes me look better. Nothing else is necessary.
I know them, have lived with them, have seen their behavior and its consequences up close and personal, and if pointing out painful realities makes me a certified asshole, then send me the certificate.
You my friend, keep up the denial. You’re so well qualified that I’ll go ahead and let you skip the certification process.
The problem that I have with you Blueballs is that this has absolutely nothing to do with a genuine concern for the problem of sexism as you like to profess. Seriously, drop the act. The sweeping generalizations about Korean men that you like to indulge in is about buttressing your own superiority-inferiority complex. It is an insult to my father and all other Korean men that I know who dont fit into your neat little boxes. Back home, when Western women talk about sexism, you guys would be rolling your eyes and complaining about feminazis and man-haters. I am not denying that sexism exists in Korea. If Baduk prefers women who are more subservient or traditional or whatever, then that’s his business, just as you choosing to play the role of the pussified husband who cooks and washes the dishes while the missus watches TV and drinks soju and calling that “gender equality” is your perogative. You go around harboring attitudes like this and wonder then why Koreans dont like “waeguk-noms” so much? That’s fucking rich. I highly recommend that you drop your misguided, uppity-Western ways or find some more diplomatic way of conveying your so-called “concerns”, which seriously, Koreans dont give a shit about. You are not in your own country anymore, Korea is NOT exactly the same as the US, and you need to deal with that and get it through your thick stubborn skull. While you are busy condemning Korean men for “sexism” or whatever I am sure you are also enjoying, at the same time the myriad benefits of Korean society being the way it is, for instance, the fact that women wont jump to sue you for “sexual harassment” just for “looking at them funny” and other examples of the miscarriage of “social gender equality” back in the States, Canada, or wherever you came from.
Or not. Really, if you want to play your silly games, then that’s up to you. But then, like I said, dont be too surprised if Koreans grow even more sick and tired of waeguk-nom antics. You cant have your cake and eat it too. Because Korean or not, regardless of cultural differences or what not, FAKE BULLSHIT is a universally recognized trait.
["the real reason he is with an Asian woman is because he cant deal with a Western ??omyn??ruined by feminist ideology with huge chips on their shoulders and an Asian woman is more ??raditional??and ??enerally know how to act like a woman??"]
I think you’re discussing a serious relationship or marriage issue, but that is not the subject of the video. It’s about races dating/getting laid, and what creates the attraction - its’ not about marriage.
my op, the main reason there’s less marriage is due to a conflict between the East Asian mother-in-law and the Western daughter-in-law. In general, white mother-in-laws are more liberal and not as concernd about racial purity as their East Asian counterparts.
The reason for the disparity in dating is related to physical attraction. White women are simply not as attracted to East Asian men as white men are attracted to East Asian women.
divorced ajummas? never, no, my ajummas are married.
(To robert) The old posts.
While everyone stereotypes Asian women let’s not forget there are differences. From my experiences in Korean and Japan there are major differences among Asian women. Only a whiskey bottle could explain why this “whitey” got married in Seoul.
Do you realize how utterly ridiculous you look decrying the sweeping generalizations above of Korean men, while making your own sweeping generalizations (”the real reason he is with an Asian woman is because he cant deal with a Western ??omyn??ruined by feminist ideology with huge chips on their shoulders”) of Western women in the SAME THREAD? No, really, do you even read what you write, or are you intentionally trying to look like a hypocritical fool?
Should I add the inevitable and simple comeback about how insulting your sweeping generalization about Western women is to my mother and all other Western women?
Hey look ma, more sweeping generalizations from the guy who hates sweeping generalizations!
In your own special, retarded way…you are. By claiming that anyone that dare talk about the reality isn’t really interested in that reality but has other, sinister motives.
Your characterization of men who actually contribute to housework as “pussified” proves my entire point. Thanks for that, Confucianista.
Only idiots wonder about that. It was obvious to me after a month in country.
Willfully ignorant people don’t listen or respond to diplomacy. They do respond to embarrassment and shame. Which is what you’re doing now with your denial routine.
Wrong again nulji. Oh sorry, “BJ”. I am in my own country.
I love the fact that you put sexism in quotations, like it’s some fantasy or unbelievable assertion on my part. Korean “fan death” belongs in quotations. Korean sexism does not. Unlike fan death, it does exist.
Yes it is BJ. Yes. It. Is.
Dude, I’m not the one who started this absurdity, it was you. Having said that, if you are going to say asinine things then you ought to be prepared to have flung back at you what you dish out. But it is clear you cant take it.
If you are going to be insulted by that then be insulted by your own fellow whitey who say such things. I’m just relaying the common beliefs of your own ilk.
Dealing with trash like you only confirms to be further that hatred of Korea is the opiate of the white expat loser.
I hate to be a referee here, but… bluejives, just quit while you’re behind.
Seriously, I can understand Asian chicks turning into Joy Luck Cluck feminists but white guys? OK dudes, whatevers…just make damn sure your own shit dont stink.
Oh BTW HT, yeah whatever makes you feel better about yourself.
“Women are not that different from men. They feel desire for sex just as much, but they express it in different ways. The Chosun Ilbo asked modern women what turns them on and how to spot the signs.”
http://english.chosun.com/w21d.....40013.html
You might have left the Chosun, Robert, but they seem to have taken your “Korean Tabloid Crap” to heart….
BJ, I am going to assume that your family immigrated to the US, so I am going to ask you why your family couldnt hack it in Korea and had to go to the US. Was it because they were loser emigrant Koreans? Perhaps ‘Korean trash’ of poor lineage?
There are millions of Koreans in the US, and most that left Korea to emigrate to the US were much poorer circumstances and levels of education than the handful white temporary expats in Korea. Think before you write.
As usual, jyce is in the dark. I found those quotes in literally less than one minute.
The video clip was hilarious. But as an Asian woman, I point out two things that I don?? agree with. It depends on context, but when a white man tries to speak Asian language to me, I am usually offended. Of course, I don?? speak for all Asian women, but for me it somehow shows his perception that Asian people don?? speak English.
Also, the white man character (in the clip) Andrew (?) was not cute. Not only that he had a bad hair (shaggy and un-charming frizzy curly hair), but he has a terrible body (if you notice his torso). Yikes! I am afraid that the video gives a mythical perception that Asian women love all white men. Having said that, I was so annoyed when the white men in my dad?? age and the young white men (with no brain, no college diploma, and no charms) tried to flirt with me.
Although I am entertained by the comments here, I think that they missed the important point: race is not the issue here.
When I stayed close to the Korean community in my former school and went out with a white guy, I remember that a Korean single man (who is so out of my league) and unhappily married Korean men were so pissed. But the Korean men (who are happily married to their Korean wives) blessed me.
And when I began seeing my husband (he is white), my male friends (white and single) were all pissed. One guy actually told me that I dated him because of his money (young associate lawyers with no work experience don?? make much these days though). Jealousy or stupidity of human breed or lack of confidence should be the issue.
Since I don’t have Korean friends any more, I don’t have any idea what they would say. But who cares?
It?? true that Asian women with white men are more visible than Asian men with white women. But personally, in terms of married couple I know more Asian men with white women than Asian women with white men…
Could you explain how you found those quotes so quickly, dogbertt? I’m not asking this out of doubt, but rather out of admiration of the speed. Thanks -
Fair enough dog, I really shouldn’t vouch for the time you spend searching for old dirt on Marmot, or just how much effort you put into being petty and passive aggressive. Given the thousands of posts you write here and on literally every other Korea related blog and forum on the Internet though, I really wonder if you even spend time doing anything else, and hence my conjecture.
But my bad, sorry.
Asians girls dig Western society because of its affluence. If the white people were poor, Asian girls wouldn’t touch them with a proverbial ten foot pole.
Women dig money and prestige! They can accomodate almost anyone, as long as he/she has money.
Shak attack, man. New millionaire Kobe Bryant of LA Lakers went to a hotel to rest, but white chicks were just throwing themselves at him. He wound up with a law suit from one pretending she got raped.
Women dig money!
Afffluence is hardly the main factor women find attractive in men Remember confidence, white skin and nice butts are mentioned in the video, but women are also looking for things like romance and good looks in Korean dramas).
And there are also certain cultural factors that favor Korean men. For example, right now the “metrosexual”, feminine boy has given Korean men the advantage over Western men. But this might not last now that the “ubersexual” (masculine but sensitive) is coming into its own and it is Amerasian models that seem to be paving the way in Korea.
That might be a hard act to follow but I think it would be good for Korean males. I believe the main reason Western women seem to overlook Asian men is that Westerners like “dangerous” types, which is evident from the rebel culture of James Dean and Elvis. Despite the smaller frames Asian men have, Bruce Lee was attractive because he had attitude! But the biggest factor by far is personality. And what a personality Bruce Lee was!
Maybe the biggest deficit we Korean men have is personality. Why is hip hop so popular nowadays? Attitude and personality.
We Koreans are too quick to play it safe, follow the crowd. What we need is a little more edge, sense of danger.
It’s amazing how you guys politicize even the silliest of tongue in cheek endeavors.
In some ways, the back and forth banter is more entertaining than the video itself
Thanks to the Blues brothers 
This reminds me of two sagacious internet sayings.
“A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction into a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.”
and
“Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even if you ‘win’ you’re still retarded”
You white people dont even know what youre talking about, because im a korean girl living in southern california, and i would hate to get with a white guy. There has been so many white guys that have hit on me, but i wouldnt give them the time of day. and most of my girlfriends wouldnt get with a white guy either. white people dont hold strong values, morals, and class.. we prefer to stick with korean men… we would also never get with other types of asians, because koreans stick with their own kind.. white guys think they can get asian girls, when in reality theyre just being used until these girls realise they need to get married and settle down. i dont see any asian girls marrying white guys… and if you do, those girls arent korean… and plus, theres probably many reasons why they settled for a white guy.. asian guys probably didnt want to get with them.. also, asian guys are more successful in the economy worldwide… and i have seen plenty of white girls after asian guys.. its just a lot of the time, these asian guys arent as cocky as white guys.. and everyone knows younger women are drawn to cocky guys.. anyways, it comes down to the fact that asian guys, korean guys in particular, have way more money, power, education, and good upbringings than whites.. korean guys are confident, yet they can be dominant.. dream on whiteys..
Suzy, you are deluded. Korean women have the highest rate of out marriage of all Asians in America, upwards of 60%.
I don’t know what happened to your explanation, dogbertt, but I got it - thanks again
Korean women have the highest rate of out marriage of all Asians in America, upwards of 60%.
Do you have a source for that, Shakuhachi? Japanese-Americans were long the leaders of outmarriage (i.e., marrying outside one’s ethnicity), so if Korean-Americans (or just Korean-American women) bypassed their Japanese-American counterparts, I’d be curious when that happened.
Statistics like these (I’m not making claims that these are the most accurate; they’re just the first comprehensive list I found) indicate KAs are still behind JAs:
93.1% of Korean-American men marry a Korean spouse.
69.4% of Korean-American women marry a Korean spouse.
69.2% of Japanese-American men marry a Japanese spouse.
50.9% of Japanese-American women marry a Japanese spouse.
So from this data (from the 2000 census), it would appear that Korean-American women (which is what I believe you meant by ‘Korean women…in America’) do not have the highest rate of outmarriage.
Crap! Statistics like these.
Anyway, even if your statement was wrong, Shakuhachi, Suzy was a bit off about her anecdotal observations and how well they represent what’s really going on, since 3 out of 10 KA women are not marrying KA men.
Kushibo,
‘Suzy’ is probably not even a Korean American woman. Sounds more like a Korean guys wishful thinking to me (Korean guys have strong values blah blah blah).
Suzy rants against Jeff in Korea, and Jeff takes him apart.
While we’re on the subject, I don’t think Judge Judy is really a woman.
And probably not a judge either.
Actually, I was referring to the television personality.
We’re probably still both right.
I think Jay Leno wears a wig.
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