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		<title>By: random guy</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/02/14/politicians-debate-allowing-mixed-race-koreans-into-military/#comment-29667</link>
		<dc:creator>random guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>since when is 850 dollars a month reasonable?
heh. you can get that from working a 'part time' job 6 days a week at 4000 won an hour.

Question for anyone in the know... I saw a caucasian fellow in a 3rd ROKA military academy uniform the other day in Daegu.. has anyone else ever seen this before? Do they let foreigners into the academy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>since when is 850 dollars a month reasonable?<br />
heh. you can get that from working a &#8216;part time&#8217; job 6 days a week at 4000 won an hour.</p>
<p>Question for anyone in the know&#8230; I saw a caucasian fellow in a 3rd ROKA military academy uniform the other day in Daegu.. has anyone else ever seen this before? Do they let foreigners into the academy?</p>
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		<title>By: Brendon Carr</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/02/14/politicians-debate-allowing-mixed-race-koreans-into-military/#comment-29466</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 04:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those salaries are monthly, not annual. Schlapsta's table (see TinyURL http://tinyurl.com/cwfp3) is pretty interesting. Professional soldiers' salaries here in Korea are in fact reasonable given prevailing wage levels -- and the conscript salaries, while undeniably crappy (W33,300-44,200 per month) are far higher than the ten bucks I joked about. When I served here, it really *was* five bucks a month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those salaries are monthly, not annual. Schlapsta&#8217;s table (see TinyURL <a href="http://tinyurl.com/cwfp3" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/cwfp3</a>) is pretty interesting. Professional soldiers&#8217; salaries here in Korea are in fact reasonable given prevailing wage levels &#8212; and the conscript salaries, while undeniably crappy (W33,300-44,200 per month) are far higher than the ten bucks I joked about. When I served here, it really *was* five bucks a month.</p>
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		<title>By: Schlapsta</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/02/14/politicians-debate-allowing-mixed-race-koreans-into-military/#comment-29465</link>
		<dc:creator>Schlapsta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 04:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the conscripted soldiers get little more than ten bucks, some discounted ciggies and a grenade thrown in now and then, they could always aspire to join the 'professional ranks'.  

Beyond salary, there are bound to be other perks, who knows. The approximate annual salaries for Korean soldiers are as follows: Staff Sergeant 620k ~ 846k, Sergeant First Class  745k ~ 1'620k, Master Sergeant 939k ~ 1'174k, Sergeant Major  1'139k ~ 2'039k, Warrant Officer 963k ~ 2'250k

And for those with a college degree: 2LT 735k ~ 817k, 1LT 800k ~ 1'095k, Capt. 1'043k ~ 1'691k, Major 1'322k ~ 2'139k


http://kr.ks.yahoo.com/service/ques_reply/ques_view.html?dnum=HAJ&#38;qnum=4491804&#38;p=??? ??? ????&#38;s=-score&#38;b=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the conscripted soldiers get little more than ten bucks, some discounted ciggies and a grenade thrown in now and then, they could always aspire to join the &#8216;professional ranks&#8217;.  </p>
<p>Beyond salary, there are bound to be other perks, who knows. The approximate annual salaries for Korean soldiers are as follows: Staff Sergeant 620k ~ 846k, Sergeant First Class  745k ~ 1&#8242;620k, Master Sergeant 939k ~ 1&#8242;174k, Sergeant Major  1&#8242;139k ~ 2&#8242;039k, Warrant Officer 963k ~ 2&#8242;250k</p>
<p>And for those with a college degree: 2LT 735k ~ 817k, 1LT 800k ~ 1&#8242;095k, Capt. 1&#8242;043k ~ 1&#8242;691k, Major 1&#8242;322k ~ 2&#8242;139k</p>
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		<title>By: dogbertt</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogbertt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 01:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess to a bitter kyopo like nulji, a non-Korean thinks he has "special rights" if he objects to Korean racism against his wife and children.  Of course, nulji's just upset because even though he knows he's special (since his mom always told him so, he being born a male and Korean and all), his schoolmates in the U.S. never recognized him as that and teased him unmercifully.  

One can only imagine the ways Korean racism would be expressed were the population of non-Koreans to ever exceed a minimal amount.  Tell us, nulji, how many Chinese were Koreans able to tolerate before they were finally driven out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess to a bitter kyopo like nulji, a non-Korean thinks he has &#8220;special rights&#8221; if he objects to Korean racism against his wife and children.  Of course, nulji&#8217;s just upset because even though he knows he&#8217;s special (since his mom always told him so, he being born a male and Korean and all), his schoolmates in the U.S. never recognized him as that and teased him unmercifully.  </p>
<p>One can only imagine the ways Korean racism would be expressed were the population of non-Koreans to ever exceed a minimal amount.  Tell us, nulji, how many Chinese were Koreans able to tolerate before they were finally driven out?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;in the future, don?? ever compare white racism with the korean variety since there?? really no comparison.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You're right, pawikirogi, but not necessarily the way you meant it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>in the future, don?? ever compare white racism with the korean variety since there?? really no comparison.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re right, pawikirogi, but not necessarily the way you meant it.</p>
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		<title>By: pawikirogi</title>
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		<dc:creator>pawikirogi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 18:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'koreans are like the asian hillbillies!' 

well no, you're wrong; you see, koreans don't lynch, burn down churches, tie colored folks to trucks, create laws to keep it's own citizens down, prohibit one race and another to dine with another, yada, yada, yada. you get the picture, don't you? 

in the future, don't ever compare white racism with the korean variety since there's really no comparison. 

'several black churches set aflame in the south probably due to racists' recent headline

'katrina- one black and one white' recent headline

'i demand rights!' expat who thinks he's special and should therefore have special rights</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;koreans are like the asian hillbillies!&#8217; </p>
<p>well no, you&#8217;re wrong; you see, koreans don&#8217;t lynch, burn down churches, tie colored folks to trucks, create laws to keep it&#8217;s own citizens down, prohibit one race and another to dine with another, yada, yada, yada. you get the picture, don&#8217;t you? </p>
<p>in the future, don&#8217;t ever compare white racism with the korean variety since there&#8217;s really no comparison. </p>
<p>&#8217;several black churches set aflame in the south probably due to racists&#8217; recent headline</p>
<p>&#8216;katrina- one black and one white&#8217; recent headline</p>
<p>&#8216;i demand rights!&#8217; expat who thinks he&#8217;s special and should therefore have special rights</p>
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		<title>By: rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 18:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, being a parent of a mixed child, screw the Koreans and their prejudices.  As someone mentioned to me, Koreans are the equvilant of the Asian Hillbillys. Enough said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, being a parent of a mixed child, screw the Koreans and their prejudices.  As someone mentioned to me, Koreans are the equvilant of the Asian Hillbillys. Enough said.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendon Carr</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/02/14/politicians-debate-allowing-mixed-race-koreans-into-military/#comment-29442</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Foresight! In the very near future, when the Korean plan to rid itself of the US is complete, they are going to have to fins someone to fight theor battles for them. The only question is whether they??l be able to offer enough of an inducement to anyone desparate enought to think about enlisting.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good news! The salary is being doubled to ten bucks a month!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Foresight! In the very near future, when the Korean plan to rid itself of the US is complete, they are going to have to fins someone to fight theor battles for them. The only question is whether they??l be able to offer enough of an inducement to anyone desparate enought to think about enlisting.</p></blockquote>
<p>Good news! The salary is being doubled to ten bucks a month!</p>
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		<title>By: sutgarak</title>
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		<dc:creator>sutgarak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know why kushibo is blowing his top about mixed race(or person of mixed ethnicity, according to him) issue? Is this because Kushibo is a person of mixed ethnicity himself? Let what's inside your heart out, Kushibo. You can always share your personal experiences as a mixed ethnicity person with us. We're ready to listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why kushibo is blowing his top about mixed race(or person of mixed ethnicity, according to him) issue? Is this because Kushibo is a person of mixed ethnicity himself? Let what&#8217;s inside your heart out, Kushibo. You can always share your personal experiences as a mixed ethnicity person with us. We&#8217;re ready to listen.</p>
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		<title>By: Sperwer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sperwer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uri Party lawmaker Park Chan-suk:
&lt;blockquote&gt;\"As there will be many opportunities for us to send the military abroad on peacekeeping missions [sic] and the like, we must allow people like foreign laborers who have come to Korea to enlist in the military.\"&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Foresight!  In the very near future, when the Korean plan to rid itself of the US is compltete, they are going to have to fins someone to fight theor battles for them.  The only question is whether they\'ll be able to offer enough of an inducement to anyone desparate enought to think about enlisting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uri Party lawmaker Park Chan-suk:</p>
<blockquote><p>\&#8221;As there will be many opportunities for us to send the military abroad on peacekeeping missions [sic] and the like, we must allow people like foreign laborers who have come to Korea to enlist in the military.\&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Foresight!  In the very near future, when the Korean plan to rid itself of the US is compltete, they are going to have to fins someone to fight theor battles for them.  The only question is whether they\&#8217;ll be able to offer enough of an inducement to anyone desparate enought to think about enlisting.</p>
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