Comments on: Schatten cleared of ’scientific misconduct,’ faulted for ‘research misbehavior’

By: kushibo

kushibo — Wed, 15 Feb 2006 03:51:28 +0000

cm wrote:
Schatten got off easy. Too easy.

Read Kushibo

I think you are referring to this post.

I wrote that post after checking out U Pitt’s actual report (Brendon’s link above), which has a somewhat different take on the matter than the article (”Peers supporting Schatten, consider him a victim of fraud“) Marbert cited in the original post.

The actual report (”University of Pittsburg Summary Investigative Report on Allegations of Possible Scientific Misconduct on the Part of Gerald P. Schatten, Ph.D.”) has some rather unflattering things to say about Dr. Schatten, and includes suggestions of misbehavior that would belie the picture of duped innocence painted by the “peers supporting Schatten.”

It appears that some of the “peers supporting Schatten” read only the second-to-last paragraph of the report, and not the several paragraphs before that or the details before that.

The last sentence of one of those paragraphs…

While this failure would not strictly constitute research misconduct as narrowly defined by University of Pittsburgh policies, it would be an example of research misbehavior.

…shows how narrowly he dodged this bullet. I wonder how narrowly he dodged it in Wisconsin, during the last major scientific scandal in which Dr. Schatten happened to be involved.

By: cm

cm — Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:41:01 +0000

Schatten got off easy. Too easy.

Read Kushibo

http://kushibo.blogspot.com/

By: Brendon Carr

Brendon Carr — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:50:11 +0000

Baduk’s link to the Schatten-related paper doesn’t work because WordPress doesn’t allow embedding “percent-20″ — but TinyURL does. See http://tinyurl.com/aeus5 for the same link.

By: baduk

baduk — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:48:48 +0000

This is off the subject but for those who do not know what baduk is..

http://www.baduk.or.kr/news/ho.....mp;frpg=MN

By: baduk

baduk — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:29:14 +0000

This board software loses “%” in the http link. You have to cut and paste the following address to the address slot in your browser.

“http://newsbureau.upmc.com/PDF/Final Public Report 2.08.pdf”

In the doc, there is a quote, “it seems likely that multiple members of Dr.Hwang?? group either participated or were aware of the misconduct”. I, as a Korean scientist, hate to read things like this. Hwang’s group, a bunch of Koreans who call themselves scientists, conspired together to fool the world scientific community for their own gain. Not only one individual, but a whole lot of them. Making up lies. Koreans cheating as a group. In the best University in Korea.

I am ashamed.

By: baduk

baduk — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:18:24 +0000

Yes, Robert, I am following the events as they happen.

1) Read this if you have the mind of a scholar and want to get to the source, http://newsbureau.upmc.com/PDF/Final Public Report 2.08.pdf

2) This is a significant development because, as you know, there are still a considerable number of Koreans who insist that Dr.Hwang did nothing wrong and, him being a trusting soul, got fooled by tricky subordinates. I don’t know if these people can tell the difference between a hole in the ground and their assho**.

3) I don’t know what U. of Pitt will do. The University may just issue a statement that Prof. Schatten has done wrong but actually do nothing. “Science misbehavior” is a term that I am not familiar with and I think nobody is. Anyway, it is not “scientific misconduct” and Schatten may get off easy. Then, these Korean Hwangppas (Hwang supporters) may use that to tell SNU to do the same about Hwang; let him keep his post and keep working on the stem cell research!

4) Here you have a lying SOB who ate up the precious tax dollars from the government with the research that got nowhere and these Hwangppas want Hwang to continue to lie to them. Hwang may come back! What a preposterous ending that will be!