Comments on: How d’ya spell that? http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/01/05/how-dya-spell-that/ Korea... in Blog Format Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:28:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Darin http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/01/05/how-dya-spell-that/#comment-28014 Darin Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:12:00 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=2289#comment-28014 I would use his personal preference -- it's his name. I had to deal with the same thing here in Japan. When putting my name in kana, do you go by the sound, or the spelling. I'm Darin ten Bruggencate. If you go by the spelling, I'm ?????????????. If you go by sound I'm ??????????????. How can it be decided which way to do it? Well, It should be done the way I want it done -- it's my name. The same should be applied for Mr. Vershbow I believe. It's his name after all. How do I write my name? I like to cause trouble, so I write my name in Hiragana (which is a 'no-no', all dirty gaijin have to use katakana so as to make it well known how different they are) and write my name ???. On a semi-related matter, why is it that when someone from Japan for example comes to America, most will insist that you pronounce their name the way it should be in Japanese, but when someone from America goes to Japan, most Japanese people will insist that this is Japan and therefor you must pronounce your own name wrong as to accommodate us vowel-lacking Japanese. I never understood that. I'll be starting another school in April 1st (3rd college is a charm right? hehe) and I plan on just writing my name "Darin" and not katakana-izing the pronunciation. I would use his personal preference — it’s his name.
I had to deal with the same thing here in Japan. When putting my name in kana, do you go by the sound, or the spelling.
I’m Darin ten Bruggencate. If you go by the spelling, I’m ?????????????. If you go by sound I’m ??????????????. How can it be decided which way to do it? Well, It should be done the way I want it done — it’s my name. The same should be applied for Mr. Vershbow I believe. It’s his name after all. How do I write my name? I like to cause trouble, so I write my name in Hiragana (which is a ‘no-no’, all dirty gaijin have to use katakana so as to make it well known how different they are) and write my name ???.

On a semi-related matter, why is it that when someone from Japan for example comes to America, most will insist that you pronounce their name the way it should be in Japanese, but when someone from America goes to Japan, most Japanese people will insist that this is Japan and therefor you must pronounce your own name wrong as to accommodate us vowel-lacking Japanese. I never understood that. I’ll be starting another school in April 1st (3rd college is a charm right? hehe) and I plan on just writing my name “Darin” and not katakana-izing the pronunciation.

]]> By: oranckay http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/01/05/how-dya-spell-that/#comment-28013 oranckay Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:36:56 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=2289#comment-28013 It makes sense that there have to be rules to hangeulize foreign names and that they have to be followed, because though 98% of the world's population has foreign names, very few have any personal preference whatsoever as to how to write them in hangeul. Vershbow, too, for that matter, does not read and write Korean. What annoys me a little is that some of newspapers are ignoring Vershbow's personal preference despite respecting the personal preferences of Koreans when it comes to the rare cases where there are ambiguities hangeulizing names that are in hanja. IE, most major publications write ??? for ??? and ??? for ??? because that's the way ??? and ??? prefer their names be written. So, if they're going to break the rules for how certain Koreans spell their names, they need to be consistent and respect how a foreigner spells his as well. Hankyoreh, btw, writes it like Vershbow likes it, and many other publications do as well. And folks, it's ??? not ???, since the ? in question is doing the ?-ing ?. It makes sense that there have to be rules to hangeulize foreign names and that they have to be followed, because though 98% of the world’s population has foreign names, very few have any personal preference whatsoever as to how to write them in hangeul. Vershbow, too, for that matter, does not read and write Korean.

What annoys me a little is that some of newspapers are ignoring Vershbow’s personal preference despite respecting the personal preferences of Koreans when it comes to the rare cases where there are ambiguities hangeulizing names that are in hanja. IE, most major publications write ??? for ??? and ??? for ??? because that’s the way ??? and ??? prefer their names be written. So, if they’re going to break the rules for how certain Koreans spell their names, they need to be consistent and respect how a foreigner spells his as well. Hankyoreh, btw, writes it like Vershbow likes it, and many other publications do as well.

And folks, it’s ??? not ???, since the ? in question is doing the ?-ing ?.

]]> By: Giant Panda http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/01/05/how-dya-spell-that/#comment-28012 Giant Panda Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:31:38 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=2289#comment-28012 The above comment wasn\'t made by me. The above comment wasn\’t made by me.

]]> By: oranckay http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/01/05/how-dya-spell-that/#comment-28011 oranckay Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:24:25 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=2289#comment-28011 Is everyone else on LSD or are all these comments a little off topic? Posted by: Oranckay | January 05, 2006 at 10:26 PM The above comment wasn't made by me. Is everyone else on LSD or are all these comments a little off topic?

Posted by: Oranckay | January 05, 2006 at 10:26 PM

The above comment wasn’t made by me.

]]> By: lirelou http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/01/05/how-dya-spell-that/#comment-28010 lirelou Fri, 06 Jan 2006 17:34:33 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=2289#comment-28010 As for me, I am shocked, yes shocked, I tell you, to discover that Hangul could not capture the sonorous nuances of Ambassador Vershbow's patronym. Everyone here knows, yes, don't deny it, that hangul is the most scientifically organized alphabet in world history, capable of reproducing every sound made by human vocal chords. Now, umm, where did I leave those lab samples? (oooh, and off-white trash! Yes, that deserves a respectful doff of the plumed hat and bow!) As for me, I am shocked, yes shocked, I tell you, to discover that Hangul could not capture the sonorous nuances of Ambassador Vershbow’s patronym. Everyone here knows, yes, don’t deny it, that hangul is the most scientifically organized alphabet in world history, capable of reproducing every sound made by human vocal chords. Now, umm, where did I leave those lab samples?
(oooh, and off-white trash! Yes, that deserves a respectful doff of the plumed hat and bow!)

]]> By: Michael http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/01/05/how-dya-spell-that/#comment-28009 Michael Fri, 06 Jan 2006 17:07:49 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=2289#comment-28009 Somebody posts as "Michael" with the fake email address I usually stick on posts (because I'm not too creative), then someone else posts as "Michael" with "The above comment was not posted by me...." You must be even more bored at work than I am. Well, carry on, knock yourself out, the comments have been innocuous so far, and the Marmot can always check IP addresses if you misbehave. Somebody posts as “Michael” with the fake email address I usually stick on posts (because I’m not too creative), then someone else posts as “Michael” with “The above comment was not posted by me….” You must be even more bored at work than I am.

Well, carry on, knock yourself out, the comments have been innocuous so far, and the Marmot can always check IP addresses if you misbehave.

]]> By: dogbert http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/01/05/how-dya-spell-that/#comment-28008 dogbert Fri, 06 Jan 2006 16:52:08 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=2289#comment-28008 That really is something. Is there any Korean alive who can see the hypocrisy here? Or do all believe that they really just are so much smarter than everyone else, like our friend "baduk"? That really is something. Is there any Korean alive who can see the hypocrisy here? Or do all believe that they really just are so much smarter than everyone else, like our friend “baduk”?

]]> By: Sonagi http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/01/05/how-dya-spell-that/#comment-28007 Sonagi Fri, 06 Jan 2006 16:26:05 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=2289#comment-28007 You got my hopes up for a moment there, Kushibo. I was about to board a plane for Seoul. I love off-white trash! You got my hopes up for a moment there, Kushibo. I was about to board a plane for Seoul. I love off-white trash!

]]> By: kushibo http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/01/05/how-dya-spell-that/#comment-28006 kushibo Fri, 06 Jan 2006 08:06:43 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=2289#comment-28006 And I'm sorry to hear about your lack of luck with the Korean ladies, Kushibo. Um, it could also be luck with ladies (er, a lady) of a different ethnic persuasion. And I’m sorry to hear about your lack of luck with the Korean ladies, Kushibo.

Um, it could also be luck with ladies (er, a lady) of a different ethnic persuasion.

]]> By: The Marmot http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/01/05/how-dya-spell-that/#comment-28005 The Marmot Fri, 06 Jan 2006 07:10:31 +0000 http://rjkoehler.com/?p=2289#comment-28005 Yes, could we please lay off random personal attacks on Kushibo. And I'm sorry to hear about your lack of luck with the Korean ladies, Kushibo. PS: Anyone posting using MY name will be banned. Yes, could we please lay off random personal attacks on Kushibo.

And I’m sorry to hear about your lack of luck with the Korean ladies, Kushibo.

PS: Anyone posting using MY name will be banned.

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