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	<title>Comments on: The hard, hard lives of Korean lesbians</title>
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		<title>By: 107steps</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/01/04/the-hard-hard-lives-of-korean-lesbians/#comment-77261</link>
		<dc:creator>107steps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Baduk, I'm a Korean gay male who's open to his family. They are very supportive of me and love my boyfriend. Your comparison of gays to Nazis is amusing. My mother raised me like she's super-woman and she loves me to death. If she ever heard you saying such things she'd be very hurt. Please know that I am a better human being than you are because I don't put down people who are only loving the person/gender they do. 

And railwaycharm, 75% are sucked into the life style? Sucked… in??? How does one get sucked into homosexuality? Does one have to be sucked off by a homosexual to become one? 

I think you guys are jealous or something, otherwise you wouldn’t be whining.

And Shelton, that’s a beautiful story. 

Anyways I just wanted to say that I’m gay and I’m Korean (shocking!) and I’m proud whether you like it or not!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Baduk, I&#8217;m a Korean gay male who&#8217;s open to his family. They are very supportive of me and love my boyfriend. Your comparison of gays to Nazis is amusing. My mother raised me like she&#8217;s super-woman and she loves me to death. If she ever heard you saying such things she&#8217;d be very hurt. Please know that I am a better human being than you are because I don&#8217;t put down people who are only loving the person/gender they do. </p>
<p>And railwaycharm, 75% are sucked into the life style? Sucked… in??? How does one get sucked into homosexuality? Does one have to be sucked off by a homosexual to become one? </p>
<p>I think you guys are jealous or something, otherwise you wouldn’t be whining.</p>
<p>And Shelton, that’s a beautiful story. </p>
<p>Anyways I just wanted to say that I’m gay and I’m Korean (shocking!) and I’m proud whether you like it or not!</p>
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		<title>By: railwaycharm</title>
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		<dc:creator>railwaycharm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 03:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerry, you are correct. 25% of homosexual males are born that way, the other 75% are sucked into the lifestyle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerry, you are correct. 25% of homosexual males are born that way, the other 75% are sucked into the lifestyle.</p>
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		<title>By: kushibo</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/01/04/the-hard-hard-lives-of-korean-lesbians/#comment-27917</link>
		<dc:creator>kushibo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 01:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the Koizumi post being blocked somehow? I'm able to link to everything except that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the Koizumi post being blocked somehow? I&#8217;m able to link to everything except that.</p>
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		<title>By: Shelton Bumgarner</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/01/04/the-hard-hard-lives-of-korean-lesbians/#comment-27916</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelton Bumgarner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 00:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, here's the comment I was trying not to comment make. The link didn't work.


I Name My First Lesbian

You've heard of a boy name Sue, well I gotta Korean girl named Steve.

By COY ASKEW
Ahssa! Editor

I don't know that she's a lesbian, but damn if she doesn't look and act like one.

It was an honest enough mistake. At the beginning of each semester, yours truly gets to play the age old game of Name The Korean. I turned to my right and I saw a kid that looked like your average male Korean kid.

I didn't really think much of it -- I put a bunch of male names on the board and let the kid pick which one he wanted.

Little did I know that I wasn't naming a male Korean...I was naming a FEMALE Korean.

After weeks and weeks of teaching the girl, I saw her zip out of the girl's bathroom and I said to him/her, "STEVE, WHAT WERE YOU DOING IN THE GIRL'S BATHROOM?"

The moment I said it, I remember KHK telling me about one of my students who I thought was a boy but was really a girl.

And I realized it was Steve.

Seeing Steve leave the girl's bathroom reminded me of this girl when I was a kid who looked and acted the same way. Everyone assumed she was a boy or...uh...really wanted to BE a boy. Later, of course, people would mumble something inaudible whenever the topic of her significant other came up. "Yeah, she's mumble mumble mumble with mumble mumble."

Oh. Is that so?

Anyway, back to Steve.

Once I realize Steve was a girl, I started taking a closer look at her. One close look and Steve pretty much looked like every dom I've ever met. Her hair was short, her shirt flannel and her hands all over the cutest young fem you ever did see. I tried as hard as I could to see any sign that it was a girl and not a boy in front of me, and I just couldn't see it. Looked all boy to me.

These days, I look at Steve and Julie and think, "Am I seeing what I think I'm seeing?"

See, Korean culture is EXTREMELY conservative, at least on the face of it -- no pun intended -- and the idea that I might have a little pre-pubescent lesbian in one of my classes I find ever so delicious. "Steve, Steve, Steve, you need to take your little twinky there to a nice New England town and raise a couple of gender neutral chillens," I think while I try to ponder what fate awaits Steve.

The position of Julie in Steve's world I find perplexing. Is Steve just going through a phase, or is she going to grow up to be...uh...a lesbian? In such a conservative society, why does Julie seem so happy with Steve touching her all the time. I mean, I know all about how Koreans have a completely different idea about same-sex touching vis-a-vis the West, but dude, Steve looks and acts like a Western lesbian. (Which, come to think of it, would be a great band name. "You do NOT FUCK with the Western Lesbians! The Western Lesbians carry ALL their own equipment!")

I tried to cover for Steve, Julie and their Love That Dare Not Speak Its Name when a bunch of girls from the other side of the room started to suggest that Julie and Steve were a couple.

"No, no, their just friends guys. Stop talking like that," I said.

There talk did cause me to walk over to Steve and say, "Steve, you need a girl's name. How about Sue? That's a good girl's name," I said.

"No, TeaCha! I like Steve!"

Fight the power, my young lesbian in training. Fight the power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, here&#8217;s the comment I was trying not to comment make. The link didn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>I Name My First Lesbian</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve heard of a boy name Sue, well I gotta Korean girl named Steve.</p>
<p>By COY ASKEW<br />
Ahssa! Editor</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that she&#8217;s a lesbian, but damn if she doesn&#8217;t look and act like one.</p>
<p>It was an honest enough mistake. At the beginning of each semester, yours truly gets to play the age old game of Name The Korean. I turned to my right and I saw a kid that looked like your average male Korean kid.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t really think much of it &#8212; I put a bunch of male names on the board and let the kid pick which one he wanted.</p>
<p>Little did I know that I wasn&#8217;t naming a male Korean&#8230;I was naming a FEMALE Korean.</p>
<p>After weeks and weeks of teaching the girl, I saw her zip out of the girl&#8217;s bathroom and I said to him/her, &#8220;STEVE, WHAT WERE YOU DOING IN THE GIRL&#8217;S BATHROOM?&#8221;</p>
<p>The moment I said it, I remember KHK telling me about one of my students who I thought was a boy but was really a girl.</p>
<p>And I realized it was Steve.</p>
<p>Seeing Steve leave the girl&#8217;s bathroom reminded me of this girl when I was a kid who looked and acted the same way. Everyone assumed she was a boy or&#8230;uh&#8230;really wanted to BE a boy. Later, of course, people would mumble something inaudible whenever the topic of her significant other came up. &#8220;Yeah, she&#8217;s mumble mumble mumble with mumble mumble.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh. Is that so?</p>
<p>Anyway, back to Steve.</p>
<p>Once I realize Steve was a girl, I started taking a closer look at her. One close look and Steve pretty much looked like every dom I&#8217;ve ever met. Her hair was short, her shirt flannel and her hands all over the cutest young fem you ever did see. I tried as hard as I could to see any sign that it was a girl and not a boy in front of me, and I just couldn&#8217;t see it. Looked all boy to me.</p>
<p>These days, I look at Steve and Julie and think, &#8220;Am I seeing what I think I&#8217;m seeing?&#8221;</p>
<p>See, Korean culture is EXTREMELY conservative, at least on the face of it &#8212; no pun intended &#8212; and the idea that I might have a little pre-pubescent lesbian in one of my classes I find ever so delicious. &#8220;Steve, Steve, Steve, you need to take your little twinky there to a nice New England town and raise a couple of gender neutral chillens,&#8221; I think while I try to ponder what fate awaits Steve.</p>
<p>The position of Julie in Steve&#8217;s world I find perplexing. Is Steve just going through a phase, or is she going to grow up to be&#8230;uh&#8230;a lesbian? In such a conservative society, why does Julie seem so happy with Steve touching her all the time. I mean, I know all about how Koreans have a completely different idea about same-sex touching vis-a-vis the West, but dude, Steve looks and acts like a Western lesbian. (Which, come to think of it, would be a great band name. &#8220;You do NOT FUCK with the Western Lesbians! The Western Lesbians carry ALL their own equipment!&#8221;)</p>
<p>I tried to cover for Steve, Julie and their Love That Dare Not Speak Its Name when a bunch of girls from the other side of the room started to suggest that Julie and Steve were a couple.</p>
<p>&#8220;No, no, their just friends guys. Stop talking like that,&#8221; I said.</p>
<p>There talk did cause me to walk over to Steve and say, &#8220;Steve, you need a girl&#8217;s name. How about Sue? That&#8217;s a good girl&#8217;s name,&#8221; I said.</p>
<p>&#8220;No, TeaCha! I like Steve!&#8221;</p>
<p>Fight the power, my young lesbian in training. Fight the power.</p>
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		<title>By: Shelton Bumgarner</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/01/04/the-hard-hard-lives-of-korean-lesbians/#comment-27915</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelton Bumgarner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 00:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No comment.</description>
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		<title>By: golden</title>
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		<dc:creator>golden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gbb,
I just want to say that you have my 100% support.  There is nothing wrong about being gay.  I can just imagine it is not easy to be gay in the traditional Korean culture, I respect the courage you show in coming out to your family and friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gbb,<br />
I just want to say that you have my 100% support.  There is nothing wrong about being gay.  I can just imagine it is not easy to be gay in the traditional Korean culture, I respect the courage you show in coming out to your family and friends.</p>
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		<title>By: peemil</title>
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		<dc:creator>peemil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 19:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone got an photos or home movies of this ostracised group?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone got an photos or home movies of this ostracised group?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 17:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baduk, all due respect, but there is no "gay problem." There is a "straight problem" though, it's called bigotry. I have gay and lesbian friends (and knew several who died of AIDS) -- some would be obviously queer to you, but many you would never know their sexual orientation. And why should you? It's none of our business, these people contribute a lot to society and are no different than you or me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baduk, all due respect, but there is no &#8220;gay problem.&#8221; There is a &#8220;straight problem&#8221; though, it&#8217;s called bigotry. I have gay and lesbian friends (and knew several who died of AIDS) &#8212; some would be obviously queer to you, but many you would never know their sexual orientation. And why should you? It&#8217;s none of our business, these people contribute a lot to society and are no different than you or me.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 17:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of a national survey I saw in a prominent Korean paper a few years back. I'll try to find it later. It was a report on AIDS in Korea, and one pie chart showed with whom those who contracted HIV through sexual intercourse had been in contact. The three catagories were 1. Korean 2. Foreigner 3. Homosexual...I always wondered where Homosexualland was...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of a national survey I saw in a prominent Korean paper a few years back. I&#8217;ll try to find it later. It was a report on AIDS in Korea, and one pie chart showed with whom those who contracted HIV through sexual intercourse had been in contact. The three catagories were 1. Korean 2. Foreigner 3. Homosexual&#8230;I always wondered where Homosexualland was&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like Memento Mori.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Memento Mori.</p>
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