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	<title>Comments on: Finnish border guards issue tests to determine &#8216;real Koreans&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Nomad</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/12/27/finnish-border-guards-issue-tests-to-determine-real-koreans/#comment-27527</link>
		<dc:creator>Nomad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2005 03:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, 

I don't know what's better; your posts, or your comment section.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s better; your posts, or your comment section.</p>
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		<title>By: kushibo</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/12/27/finnish-border-guards-issue-tests-to-determine-real-koreans/#comment-27526</link>
		<dc:creator>kushibo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2005 00:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guards should ask them if they know what waiting your turn means. If they dont know they are real Koreans.

Come on! Even the ajummas know what a line is: it's that thing that gets in their way when they're pushing to the front.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guards should ask them if they know what waiting your turn means. If they dont know they are real Koreans.</p>
<p>Come on! Even the ajummas know what a line is: it&#8217;s that thing that gets in their way when they&#8217;re pushing to the front.</p>
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		<title>By: Darin</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/12/27/finnish-border-guards-issue-tests-to-determine-real-koreans/#comment-27525</link>
		<dc:creator>Darin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 23:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Roberts.. ohh. ouch.. sadly, where there's smoke, there's fire... stereotypes and generalizations are bad things, but usually at least somewhat based on fact.
you could apply the same question to 50+ japanese women too, they have no idea what a line is.  it's so bad that when they cut in front of me i straight up call them out, and ask them if they know what a line is.  they just get upset, but the other people around all smile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Roberts.. ohh. ouch.. sadly, where there&#8217;s smoke, there&#8217;s fire&#8230; stereotypes and generalizations are bad things, but usually at least somewhat based on fact.<br />
you could apply the same question to 50+ japanese women too, they have no idea what a line is.  it&#8217;s so bad that when they cut in front of me i straight up call them out, and ask them if they know what a line is.  they just get upset, but the other people around all smile.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/12/27/finnish-border-guards-issue-tests-to-determine-real-koreans/#comment-27524</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guards should ask them if they know what waiting your turn means. If they dont know they are real Koreans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guards should ask them if they know what waiting your turn means. If they dont know they are real Koreans.</p>
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		<title>By: rowan</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/12/27/finnish-border-guards-issue-tests-to-determine-real-koreans/#comment-27523</link>
		<dc:creator>rowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dunno why but i ended up as rowanrowan instead of just rowan in the above posts, just incase anyone wants to direct any comments at me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dunno why but i ended up as rowanrowan instead of just rowan in the above posts, just incase anyone wants to direct any comments at me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kushibo</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/12/27/finnish-border-guards-issue-tests-to-determine-real-koreans/#comment-27522</link>
		<dc:creator>kushibo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 20:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darin wrote:
but, so, what good will biometric fancy computer chip implanted passports do when entering a county other than korea where the device originates from? the fancy computer chip does no good when the country you're trying to go to doesn't have the ability to read them right? unless korea is going to supply every country in the world that is attractive to potential chinese refugees, (that's gunna be a lot) with biometric readers for it's passports, i don't see it doing much good.

First, the passports are capable of carrying biometric data. 

Second, that was only one of a number of forgery-proofing measures taken for the new passports. 

Third, I believe there are international standards for reading the material inside the passports. The United States, as I mentioned, has required this kind of thing for countries to have visa-free status.

And to spell this out for Shingles: this is an example of showing how the Korean government was responsible, in part, for what has long been a common complaint about ROK-US relations, the lack of reciprocated visa-free entry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darin wrote:<br />
but, so, what good will biometric fancy computer chip implanted passports do when entering a county other than korea where the device originates from? the fancy computer chip does no good when the country you&#8217;re trying to go to doesn&#8217;t have the ability to read them right? unless korea is going to supply every country in the world that is attractive to potential chinese refugees, (that&#8217;s gunna be a lot) with biometric readers for it&#8217;s passports, i don&#8217;t see it doing much good.</p>
<p>First, the passports are capable of carrying biometric data. </p>
<p>Second, that was only one of a number of forgery-proofing measures taken for the new passports. </p>
<p>Third, I believe there are international standards for reading the material inside the passports. The United States, as I mentioned, has required this kind of thing for countries to have visa-free status.</p>
<p>And to spell this out for Shingles: this is an example of showing how the Korean government was responsible, in part, for what has long been a common complaint about ROK-US relations, the lack of reciprocated visa-free entry.</p>
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		<title>By: kushibo</title>
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		<dc:creator>kushibo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 20:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rowanrowan wrote:
to be fair kushibo doen't mind criticising korea either. i think he takes a pretty balanced position. criticism all round i say.

Ah, people just see what they want to see and filter out the rest. I could point out at least three major posts on blog that have some uber-nationalistic Koreans convinced that I'm Korea bashing. And Shingles sees a swipe at atrocity deniers and suggests I'm surreptitiously bashing the entire country of Japan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rowanrowan wrote:<br />
to be fair kushibo doen&#8217;t mind criticising korea either. i think he takes a pretty balanced position. criticism all round i say.</p>
<p>Ah, people just see what they want to see and filter out the rest. I could point out at least three major posts on blog that have some uber-nationalistic Koreans convinced that I&#8217;m Korea bashing. And Shingles sees a swipe at atrocity deniers and suggests I&#8217;m surreptitiously bashing the entire country of Japan.</p>
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		<title>By: kushibo</title>
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		<dc:creator>kushibo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 20:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ten thousand monkeys on ten thousand keyboards at the Shingles Sanitarium came up with this:
Kushibo, are Chinese and Chinese gansters using 1997 US passports, or any US passport to gain entry in to other nations? Nope. But they are using modern Korean passports.

Are they using passports issued from May this year? If not, then NO they are not using the current versions. The ROK government has done a major overhaul to remedy this (see article link).

On the other hand, if these are the NEW passports, then there is a big problem (see article link).

Its a fact Kushibo, and a problem, otherwise the Fins, and many many ohter nations no doubt, would not be dealing with it the way they do.

Shingles, I don't know what is worse about you, that you have a hard-on for going after me or that you run off at the mouth without actually reading and/or comprehending what I wrote. 

I'll bold-face it for you so you won't have to look up too many words:The introduction of non-forgeable passports is much belated according to officials, as most advanced countries have already adopted similar systems.

"Until now, Korean passports have been one of the most popular around the world, which is quite shameful, Lee told reporters. "They have been traded on the black market as they are easy to forge and enjoy a visa-waiver status with a large number of countries."

South Korea is currently on the visa-waiver lists of about 70 nations. According to the ministry and the national police, a single passport can fetch up to 10 million won.

"Some 70,000 South Korean passports are believed to be lost or stolen each year and traded on the black market," a ministry official said. "The new features will drastically reduce the forgery and falsification of passports."

He added the new passport, having a magnetic strip, will also help reduce the time needed to depart and enter the country.


Somehow, every subject about Korea, after Kushibos comments, turns in to a comment about somthing bad american has done.

You are mental. Your post was the first one after mine. And if these threads take a "something bad America has done" turn, it's because you've got some mutated Sixth Sense where you see America bashing where it isn't.

Then often topic is hijacked. (not that Kushibo is the only one to do this, Nulji and others manages to do their best too)


Dude, look in a mirror.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ten thousand monkeys on ten thousand keyboards at the Shingles Sanitarium came up with this:<br />
Kushibo, are Chinese and Chinese gansters using 1997 US passports, or any US passport to gain entry in to other nations? Nope. But they are using modern Korean passports.</p>
<p>Are they using passports issued from May this year? If not, then NO they are not using the current versions. The ROK government has done a major overhaul to remedy this (see article link).</p>
<p>On the other hand, if these are the NEW passports, then there is a big problem (see article link).</p>
<p>Its a fact Kushibo, and a problem, otherwise the Fins, and many many ohter nations no doubt, would not be dealing with it the way they do.</p>
<p>Shingles, I don&#8217;t know what is worse about you, that you have a hard-on for going after me or that you run off at the mouth without actually reading and/or comprehending what I wrote. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bold-face it for you so you won&#8217;t have to look up too many words:The introduction of non-forgeable passports is much belated according to officials, as most advanced countries have already adopted similar systems.</p>
<p>&#8220;Until now, Korean passports have been one of the most popular around the world, which is quite shameful, Lee told reporters. &#8220;They have been traded on the black market as they are easy to forge and enjoy a visa-waiver status with a large number of countries.&#8221;</p>
<p>South Korea is currently on the visa-waiver lists of about 70 nations. According to the ministry and the national police, a single passport can fetch up to 10 million won.</p>
<p>&#8220;Some 70,000 South Korean passports are believed to be lost or stolen each year and traded on the black market,&#8221; a ministry official said. &#8220;The new features will drastically reduce the forgery and falsification of passports.&#8221;</p>
<p>He added the new passport, having a magnetic strip, will also help reduce the time needed to depart and enter the country.</p>
<p>Somehow, every subject about Korea, after Kushibos comments, turns in to a comment about somthing bad american has done.</p>
<p>You are mental. Your post was the first one after mine. And if these threads take a &#8220;something bad America has done&#8221; turn, it&#8217;s because you&#8217;ve got some mutated Sixth Sense where you see America bashing where it isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Then often topic is hijacked. (not that Kushibo is the only one to do this, Nulji and others manages to do their best too)</p>
<p>Dude, look in a mirror.</p>
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		<title>By: rowanrowan</title>
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		<dc:creator>rowanrowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 20:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to be fair kushibo doen't mind criticising korea either.  i think he takes a pretty balanced position.  criticism all round i say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to be fair kushibo doen&#8217;t mind criticising korea either.  i think he takes a pretty balanced position.  criticism all round i say.</p>
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		<title>By: The Marmot</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/12/27/finnish-border-guards-issue-tests-to-determine-real-koreans/#comment-27518</link>
		<dc:creator>The Marmot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 20:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Shingles, would you be kind enough to dispense with the Kushibo basking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Shingles, would you be kind enough to dispense with the Kushibo basking?</p>
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