In case you haven’t read it yet, read Oranckay’s post about his meeting with one of the two survivors of the North Korean submarine that got caught infiltrating South Korea in 1995.
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I could have sworn it was 1996…I must have historical amnesia.
Wow… This was before I was in Korea. Quite an incident.
They exposed Dr.Hwang as a liar. I have been telling everyone for sometime that he is. I know about these things.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01836.html
Thanks for that, Baduk. I wrote up something on that.
So one of the researcher donated her own egg (allegedly at that). Where’s the ethical problem with that? I just don’t get it.
Scientific research has to be done with objectivity. If one examines the history of science, many people have exaggerated, misinterpreted and outright falsified data for their gain. If a researcher appears to have lost the objectivity as in this case, the data he produced has to be re-examined by a third party.
Dr.Hwang has repeatedly lied to Dr.Schatten about this fact and the WP article suggest other “technical mistakes”(=possible falsification) that he is suspicious about. The article even hinted at the possible wrongdoings about the Hwang’s original claim. See my comments at Kushibo’s blog.
I wish someone would explain what Dr. Hwang and the submarine infiltration have in common. Did he clone North Korean commandos? Maybe that’s why Baduk hates him so.
Yeah, I first couldn’t understand which “Hwang” baduk was talking about. The commando “Hwang”?
And Baduk until facts are proven to be facts, I think it is unwise to write them as facts. If found to be untrue, what you wrote sounds dangerously like slander. So far they are (alleged) suspicion as kimbob put.
And Kimbob IF one of the researcher has indeed donated her own egg, it is an ethical problem because they are not allowed to, in order to eliminate any chance of coercion being possible.
Baduk wasn’t exactly slandering Hwang (from the IHT): “The South Korean police, meanwhile, said last week that they were investigating fertility clinics accused of using illegally traded human ova. One of the clinics was run by Roh Sung Il, who was among Hwang’s 24 co-authors for the stem cell research released in May. Roh has denied supplying illegally harvested ova to Hwang.
Park, the presidential aide, said there might have been commercial trade in human ova before the practice was formally banned early this year.”
http://www.iht.com/articles/20.....s/stem.php
I knew Hwang was a liar. The claim had no collarboration with any previous cloning claim. Dr Zavos cloned a 10 celled embryo, then a week later a scientist claimed to clone 30 blastocyts? Hardly.
That is like Charles Lindberg flying across the Atlantic Ocean a week after the Wright Brothers invent the airplane. Sure Science progresses, but not like that.
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Oranckay (via the Marmot) tells about an encounter he had with a captured North Korean submariner: it’s eye-opening, and more than a little pathetic: The guy had been the submarines navigator, and had lived on a North Korean naval base…