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	<title>Comments on: GIs help on farm of father of killed middle school girl</title>
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		<title>By: railwaycharm</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/10/22/gis-help-on-farm-of-father-of-killed-middle-school-girl/#comment-34127</link>
		<dc:creator>railwaycharm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 04:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kind of lost track of this story over the years. Did the media ever come out and explain that the girls closed their eyes, plugged their ears, and walked into the middle of the convoy? They did this because the convoy was so noisy it was bothering them. I feel badly for all involved in this accident, but I hope the record gets set straight. I also feel the US military railroaded the soldiers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kind of lost track of this story over the years. Did the media ever come out and explain that the girls closed their eyes, plugged their ears, and walked into the middle of the convoy? They did this because the convoy was so noisy it was bothering them. I feel badly for all involved in this accident, but I hope the record gets set straight. I also feel the US military railroaded the soldiers.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/10/22/gis-help-on-farm-of-father-of-killed-middle-school-girl/#comment-24837</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good form-I think this is a great story that despite the fact that there is a motivation on the part of ASFK to get the Koreans to forgive the accident, this is certainly the type of story that happens alot more often than most people are aware of.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good form-I think this is a great story that despite the fact that there is a motivation on the part of ASFK to get the Koreans to forgive the accident, this is certainly the type of story that happens alot more often than most people are aware of.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/10/22/gis-help-on-farm-of-father-of-killed-middle-school-girl/#comment-24836</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2005 14:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kimbob,
 i'm not sure if the whole western and korean culture caricature you presented up there is entirely correct... for example, germany is clearly not about forgiving and reconciliation.. they're still not allowed to be proud of their own country.

meanwhile, korea's lovely neighbour japan is clearly the opposite, controversially either justifying or reconciliating with their past..

i dont' think it's appropriate to generalize like that, although i cannot agree with you more, "the turds" are definitely pissing all of us off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kimbob,<br />
 i&#8217;m not sure if the whole western and korean culture caricature you presented up there is entirely correct&#8230; for example, germany is clearly not about forgiving and reconciliation.. they&#8217;re still not allowed to be proud of their own country.</p>
<p>meanwhile, korea&#8217;s lovely neighbour japan is clearly the opposite, controversially either justifying or reconciliating with their past..</p>
<p>i dont&#8217; think it&#8217;s appropriate to generalize like that, although i cannot agree with you more, &#8220;the turds&#8221; are definitely pissing all of us off.</p>
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		<title>By: mizar5</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/10/22/gis-help-on-farm-of-father-of-killed-middle-school-girl/#comment-24835</link>
		<dc:creator>mizar5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2005 00:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God bless USFK, the greatest benefactors our nation has ever known. If most have forgotten to thank them lately, it's because our nation is going through a rebellious adolescence.  With age just might come wisdom...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God bless USFK, the greatest benefactors our nation has ever known. If most have forgotten to thank them lately, it&#8217;s because our nation is going through a rebellious adolescence.  With age just might come wisdom&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: usinkorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/10/22/gis-help-on-farm-of-father-of-killed-middle-school-girl/#comment-24834</link>
		<dc:creator>usinkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of what I meant is that it would do wonders for the ROK-USFK /US relationship if the memories weren't so short on such matters --- and that includes non-Koreans.  

These kinds of helping days are not all that unusual, and you can't get a good sense of how frequently or not they happen, because there isn't a consistent set of outlets that let you know about them, because in general, we don't consider them that big a deal.

The website blog by a GI I used to check out who did a pretty good job collected some of them and putting them together is now no more.  I guess the guy finally rotated out of Korea, so I'll see publicized examples even less.

But, there is also a type of willingness to forget about such examples too.

I think it is somewhat natural.  Who remembers for a long time when so-in-so does some small scale community service thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of what I meant is that it would do wonders for the ROK-USFK /US relationship if the memories weren&#8217;t so short on such matters &#8212; and that includes non-Koreans.  </p>
<p>These kinds of helping days are not all that unusual, and you can&#8217;t get a good sense of how frequently or not they happen, because there isn&#8217;t a consistent set of outlets that let you know about them, because in general, we don&#8217;t consider them that big a deal.</p>
<p>The website blog by a GI I used to check out who did a pretty good job collected some of them and putting them together is now no more.  I guess the guy finally rotated out of Korea, so I&#8217;ll see publicized examples even less.</p>
<p>But, there is also a type of willingness to forget about such examples too.</p>
<p>I think it is somewhat natural.  Who remembers for a long time when so-in-so does some small scale community service thing?</p>
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		<title>By: kimbob</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/10/22/gis-help-on-farm-of-father-of-killed-middle-school-girl/#comment-24833</link>
		<dc:creator>kimbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 07:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baduk I didn't say "Koreans". 
I said "ungrateful turds in Korea".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baduk I didn&#8217;t say &#8220;Koreans&#8221;.<br />
I said &#8220;ungrateful turds in Korea&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
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		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 06:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kimbob,

Koreans do appreciate it.  They do.  People are basically the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kimbob,</p>
<p>Koreans do appreciate it.  They do.  People are basically the same.</p>
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		<title>By: The Marmot</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Marmot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 05:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking about the ?€œwe sent?€? phrase too.
Don't read too much into it -- the Korean phrase was:
??¸2?????¨ ?¸¡??€ ?€œ??¸??‘??œ ??œ??­??° ?´€?³??????? ?†Œ?°œ?¡œ ??¨?´Œ?????? ??¼?†???´ ?¶€?¡±?????¤??” ?????¤??? ??Œ?³? ?§€???????²Œ ?????¤?€??³? ?°???”??¤.
Which means something like, "We learned they were short of hands, so we came to help them."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking about the ?€œwe sent?€? phrase too.<br />
Don&#8217;t read too much into it &#8212; the Korean phrase was:<br />
??¸2?????¨ ?¸¡??€ ?€œ??¸??‘??œ ??œ??­??° ?´€?³??????? ?†Œ?°œ?¡œ ??¨?´Œ?????? ??¼?†???´ ?¶€?¡±?????¤??” ?????¤??? ??Œ?³? ?§€???????²Œ ?????¤?€??³? ?°???”??¤.<br />
Which means something like, &#8220;We learned they were short of hands, so we came to help them.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: usinkorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2005/10/22/gis-help-on-farm-of-father-of-killed-middle-school-girl/#comment-24830</link>
		<dc:creator>usinkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 04:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking about the "we sent" phrase too.  

I can't really think of one of these stories where it wasn't a volunteer effort unless it was major, heavy duty assistance after a typhoon or severe flooding or such that hit a region and USFK was brought in for aid.  I think in all the small scale stories like this, just like with the trips to the orphanages and old folks home, it is volunteers who come.

If it isn't in this one, I'd like to know why the command sent so few...

It is also a small point, but I would have liked the articles to mention that this isn't the first time soldiers have done such things or that such things are even very rare.  The Korean media, at least the English language versions, print news of one about every 3rd or 4th blue moon, but you can find examples there, and the Stars and Stripes runs a story or two every so many months.  I seem to remember catching them a little more frequently on AFKN, but I haven't been in a position to watch that for some time.

The reason I want to see a note of the fact USFK has voluteers who do this kind of thing, or like going to a park and picking up trash, in this articles is</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking about the &#8220;we sent&#8221; phrase too.  </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t really think of one of these stories where it wasn&#8217;t a volunteer effort unless it was major, heavy duty assistance after a typhoon or severe flooding or such that hit a region and USFK was brought in for aid.  I think in all the small scale stories like this, just like with the trips to the orphanages and old folks home, it is volunteers who come.</p>
<p>If it isn&#8217;t in this one, I&#8217;d like to know why the command sent so few&#8230;</p>
<p>It is also a small point, but I would have liked the articles to mention that this isn&#8217;t the first time soldiers have done such things or that such things are even very rare.  The Korean media, at least the English language versions, print news of one about every 3rd or 4th blue moon, but you can find examples there, and the Stars and Stripes runs a story or two every so many months.  I seem to remember catching them a little more frequently on AFKN, but I haven&#8217;t been in a position to watch that for some time.</p>
<p>The reason I want to see a note of the fact USFK has voluteers who do this kind of thing, or like going to a park and picking up trash, in this articles is</p>
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		<title>By: kimbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>kimbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 04:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the difference between Western and Korean culture.

Western culture: forgiveness and reconciliation

Korean culture: unforgiving with long memory.

Read the father's statements and this typical differences in cultural thinking comes all too clear.

What those US soldiers are doing is very touching. But those ungrateful turds in Korea will piss on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the difference between Western and Korean culture.</p>
<p>Western culture: forgiveness and reconciliation</p>
<p>Korean culture: unforgiving with long memory.</p>
<p>Read the father&#8217;s statements and this typical differences in cultural thinking comes all too clear.</p>
<p>What those US soldiers are doing is very touching. But those ungrateful turds in Korea will piss on it.</p>
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